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Helicopter rotor speed matches camera shutter speed (Original Post) USALiberal Jul 2019 OP
Wow, looks unbelievable! Very cool, and thanks for posting. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2019 #1
Your welcome! :-) nt USALiberal Jul 2019 #2
Very cool. K&R. nt tblue37 Jul 2019 #3
Like the old westerns, the stage coach wheels California_Republic Jul 2019 #4
Good point! Nt USALiberal Jul 2019 #5
Did you know they often painted one spoke a different color and the effect mostly disappeared? Brother Buzz Jul 2019 #9
Very interesting! How subtly our brains can be fooled -- or unfooled, in this case. nt eppur_se_muova Jul 2019 #12
Wow that's cool Pepsidog Jul 2019 #6
Thanks for posting that customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #7
Witchcraft! tclambert Jul 2019 #8
Excellent. Thank you. LastDemocratInSC Jul 2019 #10
If I had to guess, I'd guess this was a film camera ... eppur_se_muova Jul 2019 #11
Interesting!! Thanks! nt USALiberal Jul 2019 #13
Believe it or not, it was shot with a Smartphone Brother Buzz Jul 2019 #15
Maybe they've already mastered the fast capture-slower download I was talking about. eppur_se_muova Jul 2019 #17
Strobe effect. rickford66 Jul 2019 #14
Oh my god that is so fucking cool i can't even!!!! Iggo Jul 2019 #16
For the second coming Jesus took a helicopter Alpeduez21 Jul 2019 #18

eppur_se_muova

(36,289 posts)
11. If I had to guess, I'd guess this was a film camera ...
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 10:05 AM
Jul 2019

... although it could have been a really high-speed digital camera.

If you've seen a moving rotor or propeller on TV recently, you've probably noticed it looked strangely curved. This is because digital video cameras scan a line at a time, and the rotor/propeller moves a little between individual line scans. Older movies/docus were shot on film, then transferred to video a full frame at a time, so you didn't see that effect.

With a really high-speed digital camera, you could capture the picture all at once, then download it a line at a time. I would think some cameras made for specialized high-speed photography would be designed specifically to do that. Maybe this was a demo for just such a camera ...

Brother Buzz

(36,463 posts)
15. Believe it or not, it was shot with a Smartphone
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 02:37 PM
Jul 2019

The whole world has been talking about my helicopter video, that I recorded in Hong Kong and uploaded to my youtube channel on Friday, 03.03.17. To get the optical illusion that the helicopter is magically flying without the blades moving you have to match 2 things in your camera. The shutter speed and the frame rate. I shot this video in January in Hongkong. I shot the Video using my Samsung S7 Smartphone set on "Pro" Function, where you can adjust the ISO and the shutter speed manualy, so you have full control. To get rid of the motion blur you have to set the shutter speed to a very high value.

The Original Video is captured in QHD, which is 2560 x 1440 Pixels on the S7.

The frame rate was 30 fps. I am guessing that the helicopter had a rotation speed of about 6 rounds per seconds and as the 30 fps in the camera is a multiple of that, the blades do look like they are not moving. The helicopter does have the same RPM speed (rounds per minute) when lifting off, it just adjust the tilt of the blades in order to lift off. This circumstance helped to create this illusion.

The media all over the world reported about this video

​Chris Fay

https://www.chrisfay.de/helicopter-video

eppur_se_muova

(36,289 posts)
17. Maybe they've already mastered the fast capture-slower download I was talking about.
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 07:54 PM
Jul 2019

BTW, as with carriage wheels, it's not necessary that the camera capture the rotor returning to the same position each frame. There are five blades, and they are all equivalent, so effectively the same view is repeated every fifth of a rotation. So at 360 RPM (supposedly a typical rate) or 6 RPS, the view does not appear to repeat every 1/6 of a second, but five times faster -- i.e. every 1/30th of a second. So his guess of 6 RPS looks pretty good, and he is probably capturing the rotor in the same position each frame -- though if it were 7 RPS, I doubt it would look much different, owing to the symmetry of the rotor.

Also note that for 360 RPM the frame rate needs to be a divisor of 30fps, not a multiple of 6fps, as the videographer stated. At 12fps, for example, every other frame would show an image of the rotor rotated 180 degrees, and you would see ten ghostly blades where there are really only five. At 25fps you would see five, non-coincident, copies of the rotor, or 25 blades ! It's the time per apparent repeat of the rotor position (1/6 s, i.e. 5/30 s, or 4/30 s, or 2/30 s, etc.) that needs to be a multiple of the time per frame (1/30 s), which is the inverse of the rate.

It's possible to think about things too much sometimes.

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