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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 04:34 PM Sep 2019

We have our first alligator in our lake.

Technically, it's the second. The first one I saw was after we closed on our house but before we moved in.

Hadn't seen any since in the two years plus until Sunday, when I saw it on the lawn across the lake from us (about 200 feet away). Saw it again yesterday swimming around the corner of the lake, about 125-150 feet away.

It's full grown but not huge. Probably 6-7 feet.

I'll admit to being rather conflicted by the situation. On the one hand, alligators absolutely fascinate me. I love them. They're my spirit animal. I actually have dreams about them. Something about them, how they're basically modern day dinosaurs and the thrill and excitement you get when you see them in the wild. And how they're generally lethargic, placid creatures but still have the potential for danger in them. I never not get excited whenever I see an alligator.

On the other hand, we also have a six month old puppy and, well, naturally it makes me a tad bit nervous. Not that I'm not 100% cautious about my surroundings, even before the gator showed up. I never let him roam free. If I'm taking him out back to pee, I have him on a four foot leash, and I never let him get closer than 5 feet to the shoreline. If I'm taking him out in the evening, we have a motion sensor light that immediately turns on with bright stadium like luminescence. I don't go beyond the lit areas to have him do his business and I don't actually put him down until I am sure everything is clear. I'm always prepared to scoop him up on a second's notice if there's the slightest problem.

I've nicknamed the gator Dorian based on recent events. As in I'm fascinated by its powerful nature and all that it symbolizes...but I also would prefer it stay off shore from me and not make landfall where I live.

My only concern is what happens if I come home and Dorian has decided to park himself on my back lawn. I've thought about spraying him with a garden hose in such a situation to coax him back into the lake, but not sure if that would do anything other than annoy him. Or clean him. Or perhaps bang some pots and pans....if anyone here who has lived in Gator country has some tips, I'm more than willing to hear them. (I've read some people have suggested collecting human urine and spraying that around the yard. I'm not at that point yet. Sorry.)

Unless it's an emergency situation, such as Dorian actually making his way into my pool (which is surrounded by a screen) I don't want to call animal control. Alligators are a fact of nature here in Florida and so long as they aren't doing anything to threaten me or my family, I'm going to give him the respect he deserves. My kids know not to go to the edge of the lake unattended and I'm taking all the necessary precautions with the dog, so that should be that.

With that being said, as exciting as it has been having Dorian around for the past couple of days, the best thing for him to do at this point would be to move along to the next lake. I worry if some neurotic snowbird sees Dorian, they'll immediately freak out even if he's doing nothing more than harmlessly swimming in the middle of the lake. And they'll call animal control and because Dorian isn't under 5 feet, it might not be a happy ending to the story. Of course, there are plenty of fish and wildlife around the lake, so Dorian might not really want to leave.

So Dorian, it's been fun seeing you around (as long as you don't bother my family or pet), but for your own sake, you gotta move yourself along.

See ya later, alligator.

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dawg day

(7,947 posts)
1. That is not a problem I have much in my Great Lakes home... :)
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 04:59 PM
Sep 2019

I like the human urine idea. Collecting it would be interesting (bucket in the bowl)?

A fence might be a good idea, though I bet a smart alligator like Dorian would be able to climb it.

2naSalit

(86,577 posts)
4. Up here in
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:35 PM
Sep 2019

the wild west, we just get some guy to go pee along the perimeter of the yard. It works for mammals but I question whether it will be effective for reptiles.

Is there some kind of vegetation you could introduce to make her/his stay less pleasant?

If they are out there, you just have to watch out. We have bears up here, we just have to watch out, be wise about our outings in beary places and at night in many towns. Being wise includes having something like bear spray on hand because you just never know.

woodsprite

(11,913 posts)
2. We bought a piece of property in Rotonda West, FL, that we hope to use as a vacation/rental place
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:15 PM
Sep 2019

in the future. Ours backs up to a boating waterway (not really a sloped bank), but my in-laws live a few streets over and back up to a lake. Mom is always taking pics of their local gators and their babies. Yeah, we told her about it. She had dad put a bench in to sit right on the bank of the lake to watch them. They had to have a gator relocated a few years ago because the guy that lived next door would feed them chicken off his little back dock and he would come up whenever he saw anybody on shore. That time the gator had come all the way up and gotten caught and cornered in my in-laws gardening alcove.

My cousin lives near the Everglades. He said the only thing you can do is fencing, and even then, you need to be wary because they can and will dig underneath. For that reason, they suggest burying it in the ground a foot or more. Also, because they can climb, get one that has a topper or angles out at the top to make it harder for them to climb over if your HOA only allows short fences.

I would say check with the county or home owner's association to see what they suggest in your area.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
3. Call thestate wildlife people - they may be able to relocate him
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:19 PM
Sep 2019

At the veryleast, they can give advice about safety around gators. If you are in Florida, look for FWC sites.

GumboYaYa

(5,942 posts)
6. Where I grew up in Louisiana if there was a body of water, there was a gator in it.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:27 PM
Sep 2019

Our farm bordered a small lake and we had several bayous on our property. There were gators in all of them. They would sun in our front yard. Once we left our garage door up and an eight footer moved in. We had to park down the road and sneak in our back door that day.

Be extremely careful with your dog. I would not get close to water at all during morning and evening. 5ft is too close. It is amazing and frightening how fast they can come out of the water.

The advice on fencing your pool is exactly right. You need at least a foot under ground. If you don't fence your pool one day Dorian will find his way there.

Good luck. I grew up with them and found as long as we kept a healthy distance from each other, no one got upset. They are amazing animals.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. Maybe wise overall. We have alligators in Florida also.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 05:54 PM
Sep 2019

We make sure any hanging around we do within 15 feet of the water minimum is unpredictable. They're shy, and have always been easily frightened away, but... They don't sun themselves on our lawn when we're there (we're snowbirds), but our neighbor reports it belongs to one old guy especially, who moves to a nearby island when we arrive.

The people we bought the place from had a swing hanging between two palms right by the water, but I stopped reading there after a neighbor warned me about watching a 10' gator pacing a neighbor as she walked down our lawn, which is only 25' wide from water to the 72-foot-long side of the old mobile home.

We really love the wilderness that starts at the water's edge and continues for miles, and all the wildlife. Good thing because there's no calling anyone to move them out of the wildlife refuge, except possibly a neighbor we suspect of poaching now and then. For sure I never forget to scan first before stepping out onto the patio at night, although it's so far always been clear. And, of course, our cats, who never learned why they should stick to drinking from their bowls inside, were never out alone.



Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
9. With plenty of food available, the alligator will stay in the lake...
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 06:40 PM
Sep 2019

Most likely it will not venture into your back yard, unless the lake is too small.

Alligators prefer fish, not dogs of any size.

As far as humans being attacked by alligators, those events are extremely rare.

A 20 foot Nile Crocodile, however, is another story. They will jump out of the water, like lightning, to grab a full grown human for their meal. Then, drag the human back underwater to begin what is called a "death-roll."

Here's the complete list of "rare" fatal alligator attacks in the USA:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_alligator_attacks_in_the_United_States

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