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Phentex

(16,334 posts)
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 06:29 PM Sep 2019

What do you know about secret audio recording devices?

There was a story on our local news last week about a father who placed a recording device in his child's daycare room to catch the way some teachers were speaking to the children.

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/education/goddard-school-children-humiliated-investigation/85-c15d1c35-32ae-4a6a-b92a-f67e44f50c9b

I teach at a preschool and I begged our director to put a camera in the room. As far as I know, she has not done this. She DID remove one of the offending teachers but there is still one person who is just awful. The teacher in question has said and done WAY worse than what was recorded by the father in the story above. I've considered using my phone to record but I think it would be better if I were not in the room.

Any tips? Advice? Experience?

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What do you know about secret audio recording devices? (Original Post) Phentex Sep 2019 OP
It is illegal to record audio in any security cameras Ptah Sep 2019 #1
It might be illegal. Check with a lawyer first. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #2
State laws vary. I would consult an attorney Lochloosa Sep 2019 #3
Check your local laws. An important distiction of often made between recording sound PoliticAverse Sep 2019 #4
I've been asked to bug or sweep dozens of rooms, cars, offices... NightWatcher Sep 2019 #5
I'm going to talk to the director again... Phentex Sep 2019 #6
Also... Phentex Sep 2019 #7
The cell video you shoot in person when the event happens is 100% legal to use and share NightWatcher Sep 2019 #8
I will burn after reading... Phentex Sep 2019 #9

Ptah

(33,028 posts)
1. It is illegal to record audio in any security cameras
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 06:32 PM
Sep 2019

It is illegal to record audio in any security cameras and surveillance, depending on the place and without the particular person’s consent of their privacy.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
4. Check your local laws. An important distiction of often made between recording sound
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 07:09 PM
Sep 2019

vs recording video only. You may be allowed to record video legally whereas recording conversations you aren't a part of can violate the law.

https://www.upcounsel.com/audio-surveillance-laws-by-state

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
5. I've been asked to bug or sweep dozens of rooms, cars, offices...
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 07:42 PM
Sep 2019

I think you'd be best to try to only record when you were in the room. Listening devices look like you are fishing for dirt and are illegal in most states. Filming something extreme when it arises looks like you are merely responding to the situation that you had nothing to do with.

Signed, a Private Investigator with 20+ years experience, but this does not count as legal advice. Please contact legal representation before starting any surveillance program (that you want to be admissible in court).

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
6. I'm going to talk to the director again...
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 07:57 PM
Sep 2019

there are security cameras in other parts of the school (I think they had some theft problems years ago.) From a little bit of googling Georgia laws, it may be okay if I am actually in the room for audio only.

Maybe I'll contact the dad in the story and see how he handled the legal side of this.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
7. Also...
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 07:59 PM
Sep 2019

I see videos all the time on the news showing teachers abusing students or hitting students. It's probably from someone's cell phone. How do they make it to the news legally?

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
8. The cell video you shoot in person when the event happens is 100% legal to use and share
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 08:05 PM
Sep 2019

"If you do have to get the video, don't worry about legality. Document the crime or abuse and email it to local news media stations and personalities. Once it's on tv, it will be taken care of.", would be something I wouldn't be able to tell you.

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