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bluesbassman

(19,375 posts)
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 07:41 PM Jun 2012

Just finished retrofitting a Jazz Bass. **Pics**

This bass started out as a "98 Fender Fretless Jazz Bass. It was made in Mexico and was about two steps up from the bottom of the line. I bought very cheap from a liquidator because I wanted to try fretless. Playing fretless never really suited my style, so the guitar just sat around collecting dust. My main bass is an '03 P-Bass Deluxe, but I wanted a Jazz Bass to back it up, so I decided to rebuild the fretless.

The body is basswood, and fairly dense, so it was a decent start. The electronics are actually USA made Fender parts so they stayed too. I had two options on the neck; I could have had a luthier install fretwires or go with a new neck I chose the latter as the original neck was the weakest part of the guitar. I bought a MightyLite replacement neck as they are licensed by Fender to make them. I found a company that makes reproduction decals and bought their '65 Jazz bass decals to apply to the headstock. The neck was finished with natural oak stain for the "aged" color, and 10 coats of polyurethane and wet sanded between coats. Smooth as glass. I also installed a Hipshot bridge to replace the flimsy stamped steel original to give it more sustain. I finished it off with a Fender Custom Shop white pearl pickguard.

It turned out pretty well I think, and plays great. I'll try it out for real next weekend. Bellow is the "new" guitar and below that was what it originally looked like.



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Just finished retrofitting a Jazz Bass. **Pics** (Original Post) bluesbassman Jun 2012 OP
Sweet! cantbeserious Jun 2012 #1
Thanks cantbeserious. bluesbassman Jun 2012 #7
Blahhh...... whistler162 Jun 2012 #2
LOL. You Can Tune a Piano, But You Can't Tuna Fish. bluesbassman Jun 2012 #3
True but you can play the scales on both! whistler162 Jun 2012 #25
Looks great, let's jam! Scuba Jun 2012 #4
I hear that. I think we could put together a hell of a Lounge band. bluesbassman Jun 2012 #8
Nice job! Iggo Jun 2012 #5
Thank you Iggo. bluesbassman Jun 2012 #9
Fun fact, if you ever decide to go fretless again Robb Jun 2012 #6
Cool tip. bluesbassman Jun 2012 #10
Beautiful ! Dystopian Jun 2012 #11
Thanks, and LOL! bluesbassman Jun 2012 #12
Very nice! I did the opposite many years ago, turning a cheap fretted Jazz Bass to fretless. mikeytherat Jun 2012 #13
Thanks mikey. I have a Squire 5 string P-Bass, plays great. bluesbassman Jun 2012 #17
My old Squire is an Indonesian-made Jazz, but it is really, really nice. mikeytherat Jun 2012 #18
Sweet! hifiguy Jun 2012 #14
Thanks hifiguy. My guitar player has a mid '80s Japanese Strat that has killer tone. bluesbassman Jun 2012 #19
I agree re Fender of Japan. hifiguy Jun 2012 #24
Beautiful. MerryBlooms Jun 2012 #15
Thank you MerryBlooms! bluesbassman Jun 2012 #20
Looks classy. Good job! nt ZombieHorde Jun 2012 #16
Thanks ZombieHorde. bluesbassman Jun 2012 #21
What is the advantage of playing fretless anyway? 6000eliot Jun 2012 #22
Yeah, the slide tone is definitely different. Plus overall tone is mellower. bluesbassman Jun 2012 #23

Robb

(39,665 posts)
6. Fun fact, if you ever decide to go fretless again
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 09:38 PM
Jun 2012

...You need not a proper fretless neck. A hot iron on the frets of even a cheapo bass will loosen the glue enough to pull the frets free with needlenose pliers. Restring and presto, fretless.

I know this because I tried it with an old junker, fully intending to putty in the gaps left behind by the missing frets. Turned out that part wasn't necessary.

bluesbassman

(19,375 posts)
10. Cool tip.
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 10:20 PM
Jun 2012

You know, I can play fretless, I was just never happy with the sound. I think part of the problem is that I have short fingers and my muscle memory wasn't always on target so I'd have to constantly be hunting for notes and that may have contributed to not liking the sound.

Maybe I'll try again some time.

Dystopian

(6,421 posts)
11. Beautiful !
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:31 AM
Jun 2012

bluesbassman

It looks awesome....
Of course I didn't understand some of the terminology ....
Then it made something click!
I remembered something crazy you wrote in times past...
I had to seach...
Isn't it strange how our minds work? A post from long ago came to my mind...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=8515203&mesg_id=8515229

You do beautiful work...
Enjoy the fruits of your labor of love...

peace~





bluesbassman

(19,375 posts)
12. Thanks, and LOL!
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:59 AM
Jun 2012

I remember that thread. It was a perfect set-up.

I've been playing the "new" bass a lot this evening. It's gonna be a nice back up.

mikeytherat

(6,829 posts)
13. Very nice! I did the opposite many years ago, turning a cheap fretted Jazz Bass to fretless.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:31 AM
Jun 2012

Off-topic but related, I have an old Squire Jazz Bass from the early '90s, and that thing is awesome! Great tone, excellent sustain, and the neck is just perfect. I gave this one to Mrs. Rat a while ago, and wish I had given her my late-90s Mexican Jazz Bass instead!

mikey_the_rat

bluesbassman

(19,375 posts)
17. Thanks mikey. I have a Squire 5 string P-Bass, plays great.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 02:38 PM
Jun 2012

The only knock was the fret finishing, but that's pretty typical on low end instruments.

mikeytherat

(6,829 posts)
18. My old Squire is an Indonesian-made Jazz, but it is really, really nice.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 02:44 PM
Jun 2012

Like you, I reset and cleaned up some of the frets, and I eventually had to redo the shameful soldering in the cavity, but everything is stock - pickups, pots, the lot.

mikey_the_rat

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
14. Sweet!
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:56 AM
Jun 2012

The Hipshot is a great move. Like Mikey, I defretted a Japanese Jazz about fifteen years ago but never quite got the handle on playing fretless consistently well and wound up selling the bass.

I have a 1990 Fender of Japan Jazz that I had a luthier redo about a year ago. I'd added Seymour Duncan Vintage PUs ages ago, and when the plastic nut cracked I went whole hog - brass nut, Hipshot bridge and an Audere JZ3 preamp. It's a killer player's bass and a great backup for my Alembic.

bluesbassman

(19,375 posts)
19. Thanks hifiguy. My guitar player has a mid '80s Japanese Strat that has killer tone.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 02:54 PM
Jun 2012

I think Fender Japan was actually putiing out better instruments than Fender USA for a while there.

I thought about converting to a string-through bridge setup like my Deluxe, but settled for the standard. Nice adjustment capability on the Hipshot, I had it dialed in for height and intonation in about 10 minutes.

Alembic makes awesome basses. Congrats on owning one!

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
24. I agree re Fender of Japan.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 03:09 PM
Jun 2012

I've owned many Jazzes - my current one is my sixth or seventh - over the past 40 years. This Japan-built instrument was the best one I've ever owned, including a US-made 1962 Vintage Series. The really nice thing about the Hipshot, apart from ease of string removal, is that when everything is dialed in, it is locked down until you change it.

I bought my Alembic Stanley Clarke Signature Standard 13 years ago at Guitar Center's Memorial Day sale. That day, and that day only, the bass was $1500. Retail was then $3550. Now it's over $8000! I'd wanted an Alembic since seeing The Great Jack Casady playing the very first one back in the Jefferson Airplane. Best $1500 I ever spent on anything.

Rock on brother bassman!!

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
22. What is the advantage of playing fretless anyway?
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 03:01 PM
Jun 2012

Is it that you can do those slides like an upright? Nice work on the bass!

bluesbassman

(19,375 posts)
23. Yeah, the slide tone is definitely different. Plus overall tone is mellower.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 03:06 PM
Jun 2012

Just a different sound really.

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