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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 06:40 PM Jan 2020

There are many posts here that employ profanity.

And I see this as a reflection of anger, and passion. Plus, DU is a safe space.

But in the real world, how many here use obscenities regularly in conversation?

A personal story follows.

One day, I was moving landscaping timbers and dropped one on my left hand. (My nail on the little finger soon turned black.)

My young daughters were "helping" me and witnessed the drop.

My wife, who does use profane language at times, asked my daughters if I swore when it happened. They said I did not.

Finally, I make no judgement about those who do use them. It is not really a big deal either way.

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There are many posts here that employ profanity. (Original Post) guillaumeb Jan 2020 OP
Profanity rownesheck Jan 2020 #1
I will put you in the "I use them rarely" column. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #8
I think you may appreciate this. dewsgirl Jan 2020 #29
In general, salty language doesn't bother me teach1st Jan 2020 #2
Precious angel dropped the f-bomb here after first school bus ride. Shared with his younger brother. IADEMO2004 Jan 2020 #3
The first ride? guillaumeb Jan 2020 #9
#1 IADEMO2004 Jan 2020 #14
My statement is completely invalid. I can no longer be a credible source of information. IADEMO2004 Jan 2020 #18
You were wrong on the internet? jberryhill Jan 2020 #52
Depends on the setting, of course. If with only my husband, Croney Jan 2020 #4
True. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #10
I usually will not open a post laced with profanity lynintenn Jan 2020 #5
Oh My Pet Orangutan Jan 2020 #6
Welcome to DU. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #11
If I'm in serious pain. I don't censor myself. My Pet Orangutan Jan 2020 #22
Similar Story ProfessorGAC Jan 2020 #57
Just words used to express feelings. Polly Hennessey Jan 2020 #7
Yes, they can. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #12
"Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer." --Mark Twain-- Adsos Letter Jan 2020 #13
I'm pretty good about watching my words. I taught badhair77 Jan 2020 #15
And your students learned the words anyway. eom guillaumeb Jan 2020 #16
Being British, mrs. Unblock once said unblock Jan 2020 #17
Very clever. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #20
For us it was... Wounded Bear Jan 2020 #34
My father came down and enlisted in the US Navy in 1943. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #36
I served in the '70's.... Wounded Bear Jan 2020 #47
Besides all else-- sprinkleeninow Jan 2020 #56
Mine served on the Hornet. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #64
Oh for fucks sake. GeorgeGist Jan 2020 #19
I will place you in the "I use them occasionally" column. eom guillaumeb Jan 2020 #21
LoL😂 dewsgirl Jan 2020 #30
I don't much care who swears LakeArenal Jan 2020 #23
Would this help? Newest Reality Jan 2020 #24
I never heard my Grandma or Grandpa swear... OriginalGeek Jan 2020 #25
I love profanity.... quickesst Jan 2020 #26
and Richard Pryor, of course. red dog 1 Jan 2020 #83
Of course.... quickesst Jan 2020 #86
How does one speak of the Trump Administration and not swear? TruckFump Jan 2020 #27
My dad, who paid for my college education, MontanaMama Jan 2020 #28
Being the son of a sailor and waitress I got an education early mitch96 Jan 2020 #31
I have an internal switch Mersky Jan 2020 #32
It certainly varies with the situation and company I'm in... Wounded Bear Jan 2020 #33
Best word in the English language. ( I Think ) EmeraldCoaster Jan 2020 #35
I only curse at home Generic Brad Jan 2020 #37
The evolution of profanity at work is interesting. Dagstead Bumwood Jan 2020 #92
This is the second post today I have read on this topic Wawannabe Jan 2020 #38
Nobody is forcing you to do or accept anything. Kaleva Jan 2020 #39
My buttons not pushed Wawannabe Jan 2020 #42
You sounded angry to me too. cwydro Jan 2020 #48
Well fuck Wawannabe Jan 2020 #49
Funny story. This was in the conservative 1950's in conservative Texas. Aristus Jan 2020 #40
I instantly lose respect for the person LuckyCharms Jan 2020 #41
Lol! Wawannabe Jan 2020 #43
ya scared me for a second Kali Jan 2020 #54
Lol red dog 1 Jan 2020 #87
I do and I corrupt others and they like it. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #44
Some of my Afrikaner friends are religious. Wolf Frankula Jan 2020 #45
Am repulsed by gratuitous ("kewl") F-word/profanity especially here with fellow members UTUSN Jan 2020 #46
Fuck all the perfect people! Wawannabe Jan 2020 #50
+++++Beautiful! You should make an OP of this. LuckyCharms Jan 2020 #61
I did! Wawannabe Jan 2020 #70
Nice. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #65
My husband prefers I not use profanity. David__77 Jan 2020 #51
Keeping emotionally calm? guillaumeb Jan 2020 #66
I sure as fuck do Skittles Jan 2020 #53
I will write you in as a definite, strong maybe. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #67
🎶"Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't... sprinkleeninow Jan 2020 #55
I Use The Words Very Readily ProfessorGAC Jan 2020 #58
At a concert, Kinky Friedman once said, guillaumeb Jan 2020 #68
It made me laugh ProfessorGAC Jan 2020 #72
"slobodan milosevic" I use in place of swearing Evergreen Emerald Jan 2020 #59
My friend and I find that OriginalGeek Jan 2020 #63
I will borrow this. Thank you! kairos12 Jan 2020 #82
When my kids were small, I'd use red dog 1 Jan 2020 #91
that is hysterical! Evergreen Emerald Jan 2020 #95
One of the things that first... 3catwoman3 Jan 2020 #60
Understood. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #69
Generally use profanity when I'm driving and some imbecile is going 30 in a 45 mph street. Fla Dem Jan 2020 #62
I was that imbecile driving 30. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #71
Lol. If you were doing that and I was behind you, Fla Dem Jan 2020 #75
I know what you mean about driving. DEbluedude Jan 2020 #79
+1000 sammythecat Jan 2020 #90
I like your attitude lunatica Jan 2020 #73
How can I argue with a reply like that? guillaumeb Jan 2020 #74
in the *real world* its rare. prove me wrong. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #76
This fucking thread is bullshit. Alpeduez21 Jan 2020 #77
So you are saying that you never use profanity. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #80
lol red dog 1 Jan 2020 #84
So like my High School Baseball Coach you're saying Wolf Frankula Jan 2020 #78
Exactly. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #81
I speak two languages...English and profanity...nt Wounded Bear Jan 2020 #85
Which is your first language? guillaumeb Jan 2020 #89
100% employment in 2020! We can do it! sl8 Jan 2020 #88
My husband rarely swore Marthe48 Jan 2020 #93
It is always good to honor your mother. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #94
Channeling her :) Marthe48 Jan 2020 #96

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
1. Profanity
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 06:45 PM
Jan 2020

is just words. Profanity is fun. Use them if you want. I know I fucking use those god damn words all the fucking time. Some people may think I'm an ignorant piece of shit. My sorry ass is fine with it. Fuck trump, and God bless America.

teach1st

(5,935 posts)
2. In general, salty language doesn't bother me
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 06:45 PM
Jan 2020

I don't use it much, mostly because I'm a primary teacher and I don't want that stuff to leak out when I'm with the my students. When I use profanities, it's deliberate and usually thought out. I also like using more specific language, but that's secondary.

That said, fuck Trump! (There are some specific and appropriate uses for profane language.)

IADEMO2004

(5,555 posts)
3. Precious angel dropped the f-bomb here after first school bus ride. Shared with his younger brother.
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 06:47 PM
Jan 2020

A hospital chaplain now.

IADEMO2004

(5,555 posts)
18. My statement is completely invalid. I can no longer be a credible source of information.
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 07:05 PM
Jan 2020

His first ride was to school.

His second ride was home again.

This information is on the internet now.

I will now retire from public life.

Croney

(4,661 posts)
4. Depends on the setting, of course. If with only my husband,
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 06:47 PM
Jan 2020

I'll say fuck or shit. If the grandkids are around, I won't. But they might say those words themselves, and then I feel compelled to admonish them.

I don't like to hear fuck on the street, but I'm not going to turn my head and acknowledge that I heard it.

Whatever floats your boat.

My Pet Orangutan

(9,259 posts)
22. If I'm in serious pain. I don't censor myself.
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 07:14 PM
Jan 2020

I go out of my way to be civil, but there’s a reason profanity wells up at those times - It signals an emergency, which is an excellent reason to avoid it at others.

The first time I ever heard my Dad swear was when George W announced the war in Iraq. ‘He’s an evil sh*t’ he saidI. I never forgotten it. It told me a lot about who my father is - a man who abhors the death of innocents.

ProfessorGAC

(65,061 posts)
57. Similar Story
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:20 AM
Jan 2020

Unlike me, my dad didn't use cuss words. Darn, or doggone was his style.
When my sister got married, (I was 32) he's looking at the groom's family. (Italian descent, like us, but were cartoonishly old school)
He looks at me and says, "Fucking Italian hillbillies!"
First time I ever heard him drop the f bomb, and he was 25 when I was born!

badhair77

(4,218 posts)
15. I'm pretty good about watching my words. I taught
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 06:59 PM
Jan 2020

for 36 years and I needed my job. Now that I’m retired maybe I should go rouge and see if I could do it. 😀

unblock

(52,248 posts)
17. Being British, mrs. Unblock once said
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 07:03 PM
Jan 2020

That she would feel a failure as a mother if mini-unblock grew up without being able to properly use the c-word.

As in:

See
You
Next
Tuesday

Wounded Bear

(58,662 posts)
47. I served in the '70's....
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 11:37 PM
Jan 2020

It started out as Civilians Under Naval Training in A school at NAS Memphis.

When we got to the squadrons it switched to "using Naval tools."

It may very well post date his service.

sprinkleeninow

(20,250 posts)
56. Besides all else--
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 02:28 AM
Jan 2020

😍 you more, mon frère dans l'humanité.

Both our dads USN! Mine '43-'45. USS Cebu.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
24. Would this help?
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 07:28 PM
Jan 2020

Is the remedy to use more sacred words to balance out or cancel the profane ones? That's a tricky dichotomy there.

What about vulgarity? Are we vulgar, (the commoners) in speaking a certain way that is not like that of the aristocracy who do not speak like us vulgar peasants? Should we strive to speak more upper-class and emulate them?

What about curse words? Should we stop throwing Satan's words around that cast spells and conjure demons? Cursing must be very bad in that sense.

Words are, essentially, symbols and we associate the values and meanings to them, so who offends whom? Is it the associations in the minds of the offended that are at issue as well as the intentions of the one profane one who swears, curses in all manner of vulgar ways? Do you fill in the obvious word when it is bleeped in a show? Who's fault is that?

I swear, what's next?

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
25. I never heard my Grandma or Grandpa swear...
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 07:36 PM
Jan 2020

but I damn sure heard my mom and dad and, later, my step-asshole swear.

The CEO of our company retired years ago but going to his meetings was the best. He was never afraid to drop an F-bomb and shits were pretty regular (as they should be). I miss that fucking guy.

I dial it back when out in public among strangers (for the most part) but family and work friends pretty much get full, un-filtered OG. I did well enough in Freshman comp and English lit classes that I'm not terribly worried about my vocabulary describing my intelligence. If others would judge me for it, fuck 'em.

One of my favorite swearing memories was when my granddaughter turned to me at the Slayer concert and screamed "MOTHERFUCKIN SLAYERRRRRRRRR!!!!" and gave me a big hug. I'm the cool grandpa.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
26. I love profanity....
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 07:39 PM
Jan 2020

.... especially when it comes from the likes of Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock, George Carlin etc. How funny would their stand-up be without it?

MontanaMama

(23,322 posts)
28. My dad, who paid for my college education,
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 07:47 PM
Jan 2020

used to say that I had the mouth of a well educated sailor. Funny because I learned to swear from him! My job in college was at a local hardware store...I was one of two women in an otherwise male staff and it seemed that they all swore too. Most of my friends have been men in my adult life...it’s generalizing to say men swear more than women but in my social circle it seems the do. My degree is in English with a Latin minor so I should know better, damn it.

mitch96

(13,911 posts)
31. Being the son of a sailor and waitress I got an education early
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 08:09 PM
Jan 2020

Working in Catholic hospitals tempered my tongue. When I'm mad all bets are off...
I must admit salty language can paint a wonderful picture when used artfully...
m

Mersky

(4,982 posts)
32. I have an internal switch
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 08:10 PM
Jan 2020

For most of my elders, people I’ve just met, and some professional settings the swearing switch remains in the off position. That is unless, I’m with those I’m especially close to, and there’s a comedic moment or need to break the tension over something that’s effing wrongness. Bullshit is an indispensable word (BS is enough to make Granny giggle), and crap nearly always flies just fine in this circle. There are assholes in the world, and it just needs to be stated at times. I have more fingers than the number of times the f-bomb has slipped by in this group.

My peers? I’ll let anything fly. Doesn’t fucking matter, I say shit all the time.

Minors? They might hear a dang, darn, butthead, or crap once they’re old enough and reading well enough to not over do it.

DU? Dunno, am still figuring out my standards. I have decided I don’t want to cuss in subject lines of serious threads. Really, tho, just depends on my mood.

Crushed finger? Jerkface cuts me off when I’m driving? Those slips don’t count as they don’t happen very often, but might get a, ‘pardon my French.’

Am fairly pleased with my switch. Is something that’s been with me since I can’t remember when it wasn’t, and I swear about as much as I damn well please.

But, ya know, to each their own.

Wounded Bear

(58,662 posts)
33. It certainly varies with the situation and company I'm in...
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 08:15 PM
Jan 2020

Here, I'm often in the "with the guys" mode. I know it bothers some, and I'm sorta sorry, but I'm also in "reality sucks and my language reflects that" mode on line.

Currently, off-line IRL I'm in a situation where profanity is unwelcome and unprofitable. Will explain later, possible tomorrow.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
37. I only curse at home
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 09:12 PM
Jan 2020

When I'm feeling the urge at work or in public I emphatically say "Oh, crust!".

But when I am in my car or at home the bad words flow unimpeded.

Dagstead Bumwood

(3,642 posts)
92. The evolution of profanity at work is interesting.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 07:36 PM
Jan 2020

When I first entered the bidness word in the late '80s, you might have heard the occasional "damn" in my office, but anything harsher was uncouth. Now, the f bomb can be dropped casually, provided it's in hushed tones and no one too "important" hears it.

At home my wife and I swear so much I don't even notice it anymore.

Wawannabe

(5,661 posts)
38. This is the second post today I have read on this topic
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 09:17 PM
Jan 2020

Sounds to me if “we” are being admonished by some holier than thou members. I personally don’t care for the tactic and if people have a new year resolution to better themselves via vocabulary then more power to ya but don’t push your righteous shit on me. I ain't buyin!

To those who have “implied” that swearing is a sign of stupidity-here’s some science.

https://www.sciencealert.com/swearing-is-a-sign-of-more-intelligence-not-less-say-scientists

Fuck the actual fuck?

Kaleva

(36,307 posts)
39. Nobody is forcing you to do or accept anything.
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 09:44 PM
Jan 2020

Instead of letting others push your buttons and control you, why not become your own master? My guess is that you'll live a much happier life if you do.

Just a suggestion.

Wawannabe

(5,661 posts)
42. My buttons not pushed
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 10:24 PM
Jan 2020

I had an opinion and shared it. You spin my response as anger. Never stated I was angry. Mayhap you read too much into it.

Felt both OPs were sharing the opine that there’s too much profanity here and that “we” should curb it. Also, read the responses of the stupidity of the use of this vocabulary. I shared my own opinion and a article.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
48. You sounded angry to me too.
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 11:37 PM
Jan 2020

Or at least offended.

No point in taking things to heart here.

Curse all you want; no one will care.

Wawannabe

(5,661 posts)
49. Well fuck
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 11:46 PM
Jan 2020

Now I am a little angry because two persons have decided to analyze me in this thread for posting my opinion.

Who the fuck asked you?

Aristus

(66,381 posts)
40. Funny story. This was in the conservative 1950's in conservative Texas.
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 10:14 PM
Jan 2020

My mother won a beauty pageant and she and the runner up were to be escorted to the awards dinner by a couple of young officers from the nearby air force base.

At the dinner, the young air force guys were using all sorts of profanity and the runner up young lady said: "You've done nothing but curse since we got here!"

According to my mother, these were their replies:

"That's a hell of a thing to say!"

"Yeah, it's a damned lie!"

LuckyCharms

(17,444 posts)
41. I instantly lose respect for the person
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 10:15 PM
Jan 2020

if they swear in front of me.

There are better ways to express yourself.

Please people. Show a little class. How hard can it be to do that?

Fuckers.

Wolf Frankula

(3,601 posts)
45. Some of my Afrikaner friends are religious.
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 10:35 PM
Jan 2020

They NEVER use damn or hell or God or Jesus. But they use fuck and shit, (fok en kak) all the time. Why? Those are just indelicate terms. They aren't blasphemous.

Wolf

UTUSN

(70,706 posts)
46. Am repulsed by gratuitous ("kewl") F-word/profanity especially here with fellow members
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 11:07 PM
Jan 2020

using the F-word where trading honest communication might do.

I'm old but not a fogey (maybe quaint), but I would never fling F-word or most other profanities *GRATUITOUSLY* at others, especially not at fellow DU members, not even at the ones who *do* and who *FLAME* despicably.

Am not being holier-than-thou, just am repulsed by it.

OTOH, probably my way of dealing is repellent to others: 1) I never want to have anything to do with you forever, or, .1) I declare you and I to be *DEAD* to each other, at least in MY book!1

I know people who have divorced or otherwise split whichever way, and STILL hang out or even LIVE TOGETHER! M(e, if "we" are irreconcilable, antipathetic, animus to each other, *NO* continuance of any kind is possible/desirable/feasible/NOTHING.

(I think I've gone off topic, so nite/all!1)






David__77

(23,420 posts)
51. My husband prefers I not use profanity.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 12:28 AM
Jan 2020

And, generally, I do not. I don’t find it conduce to being satisfied and well!

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
66. Keeping emotionally calm?
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:57 PM
Jan 2020

Agreed. I try to stay calm, and that is one reason I rarely listen to Trump speaking.

sprinkleeninow

(20,250 posts)
55. 🎶"Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't...
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 02:03 AM
Jan 2020
Almond Joy has nuts, Mounds dont."🎶

I read somewhere that it's healthy to mildly cuss at times. 😇

ProfessorGAC

(65,061 posts)
58. I Use The Words Very Readily
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:23 AM
Jan 2020

However, I've always been aware of my surroundings.
Comes in handy now that, in retirement, I substitute teach. Obviously, I have to be very sure to maintain decorum around the kids!

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
68. At a concert, Kinky Friedman once said,
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:59 PM
Jan 2020

I never use the word fuck in front of a c h i l d. Sounding each letter out.

Now that was funny.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
59. "slobodan milosevic" I use in place of swearing
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:24 AM
Jan 2020

It feels like I am swearing, allowing me to vent that burst of anger without swearing in front of my child.

Say it out loud as if you are swearing. It works!

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
63. My friend and I find that
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:36 PM
Jan 2020

"Mocha Frappa!" Substitutes right in very well.


Especially funny (to us) at coffee shops.

3catwoman3

(24,006 posts)
60. One of the things that first...
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:47 AM
Jan 2020

...attracted me to DU was the members’ free and unfettered use of colorful language when expressing strong opinions. Working in health care, specifically pediatrics, I must be polite at all. times, even if a parent or patient is being rude, disrespectful or demanding. That is usually an easy thing for me, although after 43 years of doing it, I have more moments when I find it challenging. Retirement beckons in the next 1-2 years.

It is fun, and therapeutic to come here and just “let it fly.” A good pressure release valve.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
69. Understood.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 02:01 PM
Jan 2020

We all need methods to release tension. I like to work out, or work in the garden or in the woodshop.

Fla Dem

(23,690 posts)
62. Generally use profanity when I'm driving and some imbecile is going 30 in a 45 mph street.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 11:17 AM
Jan 2020

Or they cut me off. That goes back to my days commuting in and out of Boston. Had to swear at a lot of crazy, inconsiderate drivers to let off steam or by the time I got to work I'd be a ticking time bomb.

Generally though, a lot of things don't really get under my skin enough to get me to use profanity. It's not part of my regular speech pattern. Did not grow up around swearing adults, at least not in the presence of us kids. My friends and later my co-workers were not prone to extreme swearing, so it just hasn't been something that has been part of my life style. Do I use profanity? Sure. But can go weeks without using one swear word. Favorites though, Hell and Fu&k. Again usually when I'm driving.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
71. I was that imbecile driving 30.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 02:03 PM
Jan 2020

In my defense, I was:

eating
putting on makeup
texting
changing the CD
playing with my pet
seat dancing
looking at my passenger while talking
steering with my elbows,

or another idiotic action while driving a vehicle on a public street.

DEbluedude

(816 posts)
79. I know what you mean about driving.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 09:06 AM
Jan 2020

Usually, everyone behind me is a fuckin' asshole and everyone ahead of me is a fuckin' idiot!

Wolf Frankula

(3,601 posts)
78. So like my High School Baseball Coach you're saying
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 11:31 PM
Jan 2020

"You guys have got to stop your God Damn swearing."

Wolf

Marthe48

(16,970 posts)
93. My husband rarely swore
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 07:45 PM
Jan 2020

He was driving to work with his car pool one day, and someone almost ran him off the road. He said, "F'n idiot." His rider said, "Robbie, you trying to give me a heart attack?"

Another time, he was across the street helping the neighbor. Her teenage grandson was there, trying to move some limbs from a tree that had fallen. He paused and said, "Geez Grandma, these are f'n heavy."

John told me both stories and couldn't stop snickering.

One of my earliest memories is my Mom searching for something in a kitchen cupboard and swearing a blue streak. So I do use profanity.

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