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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsThere are many posts here that employ profanity.
And I see this as a reflection of anger, and passion. Plus, DU is a safe space.
But in the real world, how many here use obscenities regularly in conversation?
A personal story follows.
One day, I was moving landscaping timbers and dropped one on my left hand. (My nail on the little finger soon turned black.)
My young daughters were "helping" me and witnessed the drop.
My wife, who does use profane language at times, asked my daughters if I swore when it happened. They said I did not.
Finally, I make no judgement about those who do use them. It is not really a big deal either way.
rownesheck
(2,343 posts)is just words. Profanity is fun. Use them if you want. I know I fucking use those god damn words all the fucking time. Some people may think I'm an ignorant piece of shit. My sorry ass is fine with it. Fuck trump, and God bless America.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)teach1st
(5,935 posts)I don't use it much, mostly because I'm a primary teacher and I don't want that stuff to leak out when I'm with the my students. When I use profanities, it's deliberate and usually thought out. I also like using more specific language, but that's secondary.
That said, fuck Trump! (There are some specific and appropriate uses for profane language.)
IADEMO2004
(5,555 posts)A hospital chaplain now.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)A quick learner.
IADEMO2004
(5,555 posts)His first ride was to school.
His second ride was home again.
This information is on the internet now.
I will now retire from public life.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)And you think youre just going to walk away?
Croney
(4,661 posts)I'll say fuck or shit. If the grandkids are around, I won't. But they might say those words themselves, and then I feel compelled to admonish them.
I don't like to hear fuck on the street, but I'm not going to turn my head and acknowledge that I heard it.
Whatever floats your boat.
It is a matter of choice. In a work setting might be different.
lynintenn
(646 posts)The body of the message is usually irrelevant.
My Pet Orangutan
(9,259 posts)Just joined. Not so good to know.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And after some time here, you will see a wide range of styles.
My Pet Orangutan
(9,259 posts)I go out of my way to be civil, but theres a reason profanity wells up at those times - It signals an emergency, which is an excellent reason to avoid it at others.
The first time I ever heard my Dad swear was when George W announced the war in Iraq. Hes an evil sh*t he saidI. I never forgotten it. It told me a lot about who my father is - a man who abhors the death of innocents.
ProfessorGAC
(65,061 posts)Unlike me, my dad didn't use cuss words. Darn, or doggone was his style.
When my sister got married, (I was 32) he's looking at the groom's family. (Italian descent, like us, but were cartoonishly old school)
He looks at me and says, "Fucking Italian hillbillies!"
First time I ever heard him drop the f bomb, and he was 25 when I was born!
Polly Hennessey
(6,799 posts)Profane words get right to the point.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And they can relieve stress.
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)badhair77
(4,218 posts)for 36 years and I needed my job. Now that Im retired maybe I should go rouge and see if I could do it. 😀
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)unblock
(52,248 posts)That she would feel a failure as a mother if mini-unblock grew up without being able to properly use the c-word.
As in:
See
You
Next
Tuesday
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)My compliments to Mrs. U.
Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)Civilians Using Naval Tools
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)He never talked about that acronym.
Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)It started out as Civilians Under Naval Training in A school at NAS Memphis.
When we got to the squadrons it switched to "using Naval tools."
It may very well post date his service.
sprinkleeninow
(20,250 posts)😍 you more, mon frère dans l'humanité.
Both our dads USN! Mine '43-'45. USS Cebu.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)1943-45. A farm boy from small town Canada seeing the world.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)LakeArenal
(28,820 posts)I care about when someone swears.
Everything in moderation.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)Is the remedy to use more sacred words to balance out or cancel the profane ones? That's a tricky dichotomy there.
What about vulgarity? Are we vulgar, (the commoners) in speaking a certain way that is not like that of the aristocracy who do not speak like us vulgar peasants? Should we strive to speak more upper-class and emulate them?
What about curse words? Should we stop throwing Satan's words around that cast spells and conjure demons? Cursing must be very bad in that sense.
Words are, essentially, symbols and we associate the values and meanings to them, so who offends whom? Is it the associations in the minds of the offended that are at issue as well as the intentions of the one profane one who swears, curses in all manner of vulgar ways? Do you fill in the obvious word when it is bleeped in a show? Who's fault is that?
I swear, what's next?
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)but I damn sure heard my mom and dad and, later, my step-asshole swear.
The CEO of our company retired years ago but going to his meetings was the best. He was never afraid to drop an F-bomb and shits were pretty regular (as they should be). I miss that fucking guy.
I dial it back when out in public among strangers (for the most part) but family and work friends pretty much get full, un-filtered OG. I did well enough in Freshman comp and English lit classes that I'm not terribly worried about my vocabulary describing my intelligence. If others would judge me for it, fuck 'em.
One of my favorite swearing memories was when my granddaughter turned to me at the Slayer concert and screamed "MOTHERFUCKIN SLAYERRRRRRRRR!!!!" and gave me a big hug. I'm the cool grandpa.
quickesst
(6,280 posts).... especially when it comes from the likes of Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock, George Carlin etc. How funny would their stand-up be without it?
red dog 1
(27,817 posts)quickesst
(6,280 posts).....dammit!
TruckFump
(5,812 posts)At times, certain words are required.
MontanaMama
(23,322 posts)used to say that I had the mouth of a well educated sailor. Funny because I learned to swear from him! My job in college was at a local hardware store...I was one of two women in an otherwise male staff and it seemed that they all swore too. Most of my friends have been men in my adult life...its generalizing to say men swear more than women but in my social circle it seems the do. My degree is in English with a Latin minor so I should know better, damn it.
mitch96
(13,911 posts)Working in Catholic hospitals tempered my tongue. When I'm mad all bets are off...
I must admit salty language can paint a wonderful picture when used artfully...
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Mersky
(4,982 posts)For most of my elders, people Ive just met, and some professional settings the swearing switch remains in the off position. That is unless, Im with those Im especially close to, and theres a comedic moment or need to break the tension over something thats effing wrongness. Bullshit is an indispensable word (BS is enough to make Granny giggle), and crap nearly always flies just fine in this circle. There are assholes in the world, and it just needs to be stated at times. I have more fingers than the number of times the f-bomb has slipped by in this group.
My peers? Ill let anything fly. Doesnt fucking matter, I say shit all the time.
Minors? They might hear a dang, darn, butthead, or crap once theyre old enough and reading well enough to not over do it.
DU? Dunno, am still figuring out my standards. I have decided I dont want to cuss in subject lines of serious threads. Really, tho, just depends on my mood.
Crushed finger? Jerkface cuts me off when Im driving? Those slips dont count as they dont happen very often, but might get a, pardon my French.
Am fairly pleased with my switch. Is something thats been with me since I cant remember when it wasnt, and I swear about as much as I damn well please.
But, ya know, to each their own.
Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)Here, I'm often in the "with the guys" mode. I know it bothers some, and I'm sorta sorry, but I'm also in "reality sucks and my language reflects that" mode on line.
Currently, off-line IRL I'm in a situation where profanity is unwelcome and unprofitable. Will explain later, possible tomorrow.
EmeraldCoaster
(131 posts)FUCK
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)When I'm feeling the urge at work or in public I emphatically say "Oh, crust!".
But when I am in my car or at home the bad words flow unimpeded.
Dagstead Bumwood
(3,642 posts)When I first entered the bidness word in the late '80s, you might have heard the occasional "damn" in my office, but anything harsher was uncouth. Now, the f bomb can be dropped casually, provided it's in hushed tones and no one too "important" hears it.
At home my wife and I swear so much I don't even notice it anymore.
Wawannabe
(5,661 posts)Sounds to me if we are being admonished by some holier than thou members. I personally dont care for the tactic and if people have a new year resolution to better themselves via vocabulary then more power to ya but dont push your righteous shit on me. I ain't buyin!
To those who have implied that swearing is a sign of stupidity-heres some science.
https://www.sciencealert.com/swearing-is-a-sign-of-more-intelligence-not-less-say-scientists
Fuck the actual fuck?
Kaleva
(36,307 posts)Instead of letting others push your buttons and control you, why not become your own master? My guess is that you'll live a much happier life if you do.
Just a suggestion.
Wawannabe
(5,661 posts)I had an opinion and shared it. You spin my response as anger. Never stated I was angry. Mayhap you read too much into it.
Felt both OPs were sharing the opine that theres too much profanity here and that we should curb it. Also, read the responses of the stupidity of the use of this vocabulary. I shared my own opinion and a article.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Or at least offended.
No point in taking things to heart here.
Curse all you want; no one will care.
Wawannabe
(5,661 posts)Now I am a little angry because two persons have decided to analyze me in this thread for posting my opinion.
Who the fuck asked you?
Aristus
(66,381 posts)My mother won a beauty pageant and she and the runner up were to be escorted to the awards dinner by a couple of young officers from the nearby air force base.
At the dinner, the young air force guys were using all sorts of profanity and the runner up young lady said: "You've done nothing but curse since we got here!"
According to my mother, these were their replies:
"That's a hell of a thing to say!"
"Yeah, it's a damned lie!"
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)if they swear in front of me.
There are better ways to express yourself.
Please people. Show a little class. How hard can it be to do that?
Fuckers.
Wawannabe
(5,661 posts)Kali
(55,013 posts)red dog 1
(27,817 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Wolf Frankula
(3,601 posts)They NEVER use damn or hell or God or Jesus. But they use fuck and shit, (fok en kak) all the time. Why? Those are just indelicate terms. They aren't blasphemous.
Wolf
UTUSN
(70,706 posts)using the F-word where trading honest communication might do.
I'm old but not a fogey (maybe quaint), but I would never fling F-word or most other profanities *GRATUITOUSLY* at others, especially not at fellow DU members, not even at the ones who *do* and who *FLAME* despicably.
Am not being holier-than-thou, just am repulsed by it.
OTOH, probably my way of dealing is repellent to others: 1) I never want to have anything to do with you forever, or, .1) I declare you and I to be *DEAD* to each other, at least in MY book!1
I know people who have divorced or otherwise split whichever way, and STILL hang out or even LIVE TOGETHER! M(e, if "we" are irreconcilable, antipathetic, animus to each other, *NO* continuance of any kind is possible/desirable/feasible/NOTHING.
(I think I've gone off topic, so nite/all!1)
Wawannabe
(5,661 posts)LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)Wawannabe
(5,661 posts)Music appreciation group. ...and added it as a response to a couple OPs. 😁
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)But when I do rise to perfection, I will be offended.
David__77
(23,420 posts)And, generally, I do not. I dont find it conduce to being satisfied and well!
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Agreed. I try to stay calm, and that is one reason I rarely listen to Trump speaking.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)every fucking day
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,250 posts)I read somewhere that it's healthy to mildly cuss at times. 😇
ProfessorGAC
(65,061 posts)However, I've always been aware of my surroundings.
Comes in handy now that, in retirement, I substitute teach. Obviously, I have to be very sure to maintain decorum around the kids!
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)I never use the word fuck in front of a c h i l d. Sounding each letter out.
Now that was funny.
ProfessorGAC
(65,061 posts)Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)It feels like I am swearing, allowing me to vent that burst of anger without swearing in front of my child.
Say it out loud as if you are swearing. It works!
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)"Mocha Frappa!" Substitutes right in very well.
Especially funny (to us) at coffee shops.
kairos12
(12,862 posts)red dog 1
(27,817 posts)"Fordfrickin floorflusher!"
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)I am going to try to say that five times fast!
3catwoman3
(24,006 posts)...attracted me to DU was the members free and unfettered use of colorful language when expressing strong opinions. Working in health care, specifically pediatrics, I must be polite at all. times, even if a parent or patient is being rude, disrespectful or demanding. That is usually an easy thing for me, although after 43 years of doing it, I have more moments when I find it challenging. Retirement beckons in the next 1-2 years.
It is fun, and therapeutic to come here and just let it fly. A good pressure release valve.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)We all need methods to release tension. I like to work out, or work in the garden or in the woodshop.
Fla Dem
(23,690 posts)Or they cut me off. That goes back to my days commuting in and out of Boston. Had to swear at a lot of crazy, inconsiderate drivers to let off steam or by the time I got to work I'd be a ticking time bomb.
Generally though, a lot of things don't really get under my skin enough to get me to use profanity. It's not part of my regular speech pattern. Did not grow up around swearing adults, at least not in the presence of us kids. My friends and later my co-workers were not prone to extreme swearing, so it just hasn't been something that has been part of my life style. Do I use profanity? Sure. But can go weeks without using one swear word. Favorites though, Hell and Fu&k. Again usually when I'm driving.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)In my defense, I was:
eating
putting on makeup
texting
changing the CD
playing with my pet
seat dancing
looking at my passenger while talking
steering with my elbows,
or another idiotic action while driving a vehicle on a public street.
Fla Dem
(23,690 posts)you would definitely get my full treatment.
DEbluedude
(816 posts)Usually, everyone behind me is a fuckin' asshole and everyone ahead of me is a fuckin' idiot!
sammythecat
(3,568 posts)Two minutes behind the wheel and I want to kill.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)And youre right too.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Thank you.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)Alpeduez21
(1,751 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Excellent.
red dog 1
(27,817 posts)Wolf Frankula
(3,601 posts)"You guys have got to stop your God Damn swearing."
Wolf
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)A wise coach indeed.
Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And which is your preferred language?
sl8
(13,786 posts)I have faith in the Lounge.
Marthe48
(16,970 posts)He was driving to work with his car pool one day, and someone almost ran him off the road. He said, "F'n idiot." His rider said, "Robbie, you trying to give me a heart attack?"
Another time, he was across the street helping the neighbor. Her teenage grandson was there, trying to move some limbs from a tree that had fallen. He paused and said, "Geez Grandma, these are f'n heavy."
John told me both stories and couldn't stop snickering.
One of my earliest memories is my Mom searching for something in a kitchen cupboard and swearing a blue streak. So I do use profanity.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And it sounds as if you are honoring her memory.
Marthe48
(16,970 posts)She never said the f word, because it was really bad. lol