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First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 07:27 PM Jan 2020

I recently had an epiphany about *Pulp Fiction*... (**Warning--Spoilers**)

...OK. I'm watching it on cable, and we get to the immortal scene with Butch and Marcellus Wallace, the "hillybilly boy", and going medieval on your ass. Marcellus tells Butch they're cool and to leave town, and Butch gets going, with Zed's motorcycle. He gets his girl, and they scoot. Something about the end of that sequence has always vaguely bothered me, but I never knew what. But watching it this time, it occurred to me that Butch was in an awful hurry to get going, almost in a panic. Marcellus had, after all, given him until the end of the day to get out of LA--why was Butch in such a hurry? And it finally, after all these years, hit me--Butch wanted to get the hell out of town before Marcellus heard about Vince Vega's death, knowing that that might just undo their "deal", with bad results for Butch. I have no doubt but that there are other aspects of this film that I've never realized before. It's a box of tricks that seemingly has no end. The more I see it, the more I feel that it's maybe the greatest of all American films, along with "Kane". Certainly, it has the greatest screenplay... (And I won't even go into the question of what's in the goddam box...)

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I recently had an epiphany about *Pulp Fiction*... (**Warning--Spoilers**) (Original Post) First Speaker Jan 2020 OP
Pliars DanieRains Jan 2020 #1
It is an amazing movie! DonaldsRump Jan 2020 #2
Yes. Jackson is the backbone of the film... First Speaker Jan 2020 #3
Interesting. That could have been the sell to Travolta. underpants Jan 2020 #6
Interesting concept Docreed2003 Jan 2020 #7
Good point. I've always taken the reference to "pipe swinging..." underpants Jan 2020 #4
Maybe. Or maybe he just wanted to get the F out of the town JDC Jan 2020 #5
Ah, but was Fabienne eating for two (but not including Butch)??? n/t DonaldsRump Jan 2020 #8
Bathrooms are personal escapes, exiting them leads into excitement or death. TheBlackAdder Jan 2020 #9
So many classic lines....... "who's motorcycle is this" mitch96 Jan 2020 #10

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
2. It is an amazing movie!
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 07:41 PM
Jan 2020

I often wondered why Tarantino used non-linear storytelling. It's a creative device, but there had to be some other reason than just mere creativity.

I finally came to the conclusion that it has to do with redemption. That's what Pulp Fiction is basically about: redemption. I think what Tarantino was trying to convey by using non-linearity with redemption is something that is very true in life: we can all be redeemed (in a spiritual, as opposed to religious, sense) at any time in our lives. It does NOT need to wait until the end of our life (or the movie) for redemption to occur.

I agree with you: this is one of the finest movies ever made, and Samuel L. Jackson was instrumental in making it so brilliant, over and beyond the creativity of Tarantino.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
3. Yes. Jackson is the backbone of the film...
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 07:44 PM
Jan 2020

...one minute of him on screen is worth the whole of *Forrest Gump*, which somehow managed to win the Oscar as best movie that year...

underpants

(182,825 posts)
6. Interesting. That could have been the sell to Travolta.
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 07:59 PM
Jan 2020

Funny story. Tarantino sold the "True Romance" story so he was able to demand he direct "Reservoir Dogs" (Danny DeVito is awesome). He invited Travolta to his apartment which turned out was the first apartment Travolta lived in when he moved to LA.

Docreed2003

(16,862 posts)
7. Interesting concept
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 08:00 PM
Jan 2020

Especially considering Vincent's character dies in a situation where, had his friend Jules still been in the business, he wouldn't have been left exposed. He passed on redemption and paid the price....interesting

underpants

(182,825 posts)
4. Good point. I've always taken the reference to "pipe swinging..."
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 07:46 PM
Jan 2020

related to the Wonderland Murders.

My wife was a big fan of Val Kilmer and we happened onto the "Wonderland" movie on TV one day. I hadn't been aware of it. I actually took a shower after watching that movie.

JDC

(10,128 posts)
5. Maybe. Or maybe he just wanted to get the F out of the town
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 07:52 PM
Jan 2020

After everything that just happened.

My car broke down in Mexico once and it was a nightmare. The minute I repaired it I left. I had plenty of time to hang out at the beach, take my time, start fresh in the morning etc. Instead I left right them and there, because I had had enough.

Plus Butch missed breakfast. Blueberry pancakes I think....

TheBlackAdder

(28,205 posts)
9. Bathrooms are personal escapes, exiting them leads into excitement or death.
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 08:13 PM
Jan 2020

.

Brad's apartment - Guy jumps out guns a blazing.

Marcellus' home - Vincent exits to Mia's overdose

Butch's apartment - Vincent walks out to get capped

Diner - Vincent walks into a robbery


Even the locker room, when Butch was alone, which often have toilets, Butch finds out he killed someone

.

mitch96

(13,907 posts)
10. So many classic lines....... "who's motorcycle is this"
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 08:54 PM
Jan 2020

"It's not a motorcycle, baby it's a chopper.
Who's chopper is it?
It's Zed's chopper..
who's Zed?
Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead"

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