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For those who still don't know that plurals in English are generally not spelled with an apostrophe (Original Post) DFW Jun 2012 OP
Well, there's certainly no shortage of Grammar Nazis here on DU... LAGC Jun 2012 #1
LOL! DFW Jun 2012 #4
"Most Democrats know how to read and write English." kentauros Jun 2012 #26
To typo is human, as they say......... n/t DFW Jun 2012 #31
And the air is humid. kentauros Jun 2012 #33
I am a grammar Nazi, but I try to restrain myself. I am a former copy editor. RebelOne Jun 2012 #14
And then there's Spelling: Art_from_Ark Jun 2012 #2
That's a typo, not a spelling error Bucky Jun 2012 #22
Sure it's a typo Art_from_Ark Jun 2012 #25
Its pretty easy to remember. Deep13 Jun 2012 #3
I don't like Grammar Nazi bigwillq Jun 2012 #9
NO GRAMMAR FOR YOU!!!!! MiddleFingerMom Jun 2012 #12
Nah. "Pedants" sounds like... Bucky Jun 2012 #23
How about "Grammar Despot" instead? kentauros Jun 2012 #27
So "Grammar Martinet" probably also too obscure... beac Jun 2012 #41
I prefer "Grammarnatrix". Mama spank. nolabear Jun 2012 #45
Time to whip DU posters into shape. hay rick Jun 2012 #47
Now where did I put my sleeveless turtleneck and powerdome? kentauros Jun 2012 #48
All those M.A.'s and Ph.D.'s in the English department haven't been minding their p's and q's. retread Jun 2012 #5
When I say it's the exception that proves the rule, I use 'prove' in its old meaning of test. dimbear Jun 2012 #16
"Parking for Customer's Only". This sign was placed on an outside wall LeftinOH Jun 2012 #6
Here's a practical recommendation for you. Jim Lane Jun 2012 #8
I own it and everyone who posts here should also read it. n/t RebelOne Jun 2012 #15
Every one? kentauros Jun 2012 #28
My favorites are pipi_k Jun 2012 #7
Though not an apostrophe mistake, this one drives me nuts DFW Jun 2012 #10
Yeah, but "Find a heaven for you and my" is just INVITING a dangerous final line. MiddleFingerMom Jun 2012 #13
Now if he had sung THAT...... DFW Jun 2012 #17
Speaking of which... pipi_k Jun 2012 #35
I always say, leave songs in Portuguese alone......... DFW Jun 2012 #40
Then you'l love the "blog" of "unnecessary" quotation marks geardaddy Jun 2012 #24
hahahaha!!! pipi_k Jun 2012 #36
LOL treestar Jun 2012 #42
There is a town that I pass through... Wait Wut Jun 2012 #11
Queen of Hearts: Now, where do you come from? Alice: Well, I'm trying to find my way home... retread Jun 2012 #20
Get out of the car and pose with the sign. Iggo Jun 2012 #38
Well I like to think I'm one of those you can say, "You know your shit." lunatica Jun 2012 #18
Historians know yore shit. nt. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2012 #19
And a bumper sticker is born! n/t DFW Jun 2012 #21
! Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #34
Bob T. A. F. explains ThoughtCriminal Jun 2012 #29
thanks for this! Dyedinthewoolliberal Jun 2012 #37
There, their, they're..... southerncrone Jun 2012 #30
Plural's are fun! UrbScotty Jun 2012 #32
I hate Kindle NV Whino Jun 2012 #39
My last boss hated me. ChazInAz Jun 2012 #43
Knowing your shit is not the question - Communicating your shit is ashling Jun 2012 #44
I am not a grammar cop ashling Jun 2012 #46

LAGC

(5,330 posts)
1. Well, there's certainly no shortage of Grammar Nazis here on DU...
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 03:10 AM
Jun 2012

I kind of like people pointing out my spelling and grammar errors, though.

Help's (sp) me improve...

DFW

(54,405 posts)
4. LOL!
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 07:58 AM
Jun 2012

Actually, it's mostly on Republican sites where I see that. Most Democrats know how to read and write English.

If you want a real laugh, go to the Washington Post site and read the comments (in the comments section below articles and editorials) by the paid professional hate posters from the right (they're not difficult to spot). Most of them never met an apostrophe they didn't like.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
26. "Most Democrats know how to read and write English."
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:49 PM
Jun 2012

However, as I've discovered in recent weeks at DU, some of our members are so very anal about this subject. They have stated (rather emphatically, I might add) that if a person can't spell or use anally-proper grammar, then they will be considered less educated / less intelligent / less than said anal-grammar-master, and unworthy of further discussion between them.

N'ow tha'ts jus't sad'

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
14. I am a grammar Nazi, but I try to restrain myself. I am a former copy editor.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 03:40 PM
Jun 2012

But those apostrophes in plural nouns drive me crazy.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
2. And then there's Spelling:
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 03:11 AM
Jun 2012

The difference between "I will not support Romney" and "I will now support Romney"

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
25. Sure it's a typo
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:25 PM
Jun 2012

But if it's not corrected, then it becomes in essence a spelling error if the intent of the writer is misrepresented by the word as it is written.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
3. Its pretty easy to remember.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 05:58 AM
Jun 2012


I still object to the term "grammar Nazi." The Nazis murdered 20 million people. Those who point out grammatical errors are merely annoying. I propose using the term "grammar pedants" from now on.

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
23. Nah. "Pedants" sounds like...
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 05:35 PM
Jun 2012

you're comparing them to Jerry Sandusky.

(And yes, I do know what "pedents" really means, so don't be a definition nazi )

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
27. How about "Grammar Despot" instead?
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:56 PM
Jun 2012

Same number of syllables, and more people know what a despot is than a pedant

beac

(9,992 posts)
41. So "Grammar Martinet" probably also too obscure...
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 12:41 PM
Jun 2012

mar·ti·net noun \ˌmär-tə-ˈnet\
Definition of MARTINET
1: a strict disciplinarian
2: a person who stresses a rigid adherence to the details of forms and methods

retread

(3,762 posts)
5. All those M.A.'s and Ph.D.'s in the English department haven't been minding their p's and q's.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 08:42 AM
Jun 2012

Though most of them got all A's in English.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
16. When I say it's the exception that proves the rule, I use 'prove' in its old meaning of test.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 04:48 PM
Jun 2012

It goes way back.

Now I need to wash the dishes and then do the irony.

LeftinOH

(5,354 posts)
6. "Parking for Customer's Only". This sign was placed on an outside wall
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 08:56 AM
Jun 2012

of a store where I worked back in the 1980s. I promptly went out there and painted over the apostrophe. The business is gone now, but the sign is still there and the words have faded almost completely, but that little blotch of white paint is still doing its job.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
8. Here's a practical recommendation for you.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 03:20 PM
Jun 2012

Buy a copy of the book Eats, Shoots & Leaves: The Zero Tolerance Approach to Punctuation, by Lynne Truss. At least in the edition I have, it includes a punctuation repair kit. There are several sheets with gum-backed punctuation marks of varying sizes that you can peel out of the kit and stick onto signs where they're needed. (Perhaps your local theater is showing the film Two Weeks Notice and you want to add the missing apostrophe.) For cases like the one you describe, the kit includes other stickers reading "The Panda Says No!" that can be used to cover improper apostrophes and the like.

Her iconic panda is the one that walks into a bar, gobbles down some pretzels, fires a gun twice into the air, and turns around to go out. The startled bartender asks, "Wait, what was that all about?" The panda replies that, according to the encyclopedia, a panda eats shoots and leaves.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
7. My favorites are
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:33 AM
Jun 2012

the quotation marks...

"cook" books for sale

"chicken" breasts: $ 1.49/lb

rest rooms for "customers" only




DFW

(54,405 posts)
10. Though not an apostrophe mistake, this one drives me nuts
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 03:26 PM
Jun 2012

.....mainly because I LOVE Mark Knopfler's music, and when I hear this otherwise great song with one of the stupidest grammatical mistakes you can make, and TWICE in the same verse, I feel like shouting back at the CD to tell him to rewrite his text.

From his song "Darling Pretty" from the album "Golden Heart:"

There will come a day, darling pretty
There will come a day when hearts can fly
Love will find a way, my darling pretty
Find a heaven for you and I
Love will find a way, my darling pretty
Find a heaven for you and I

I don't care HOW well it rhymes, I age a month every time I hear him sing "for you and I."

MiddleFingerMom

(25,163 posts)
13. Yeah, but "Find a heaven for you and my" is just INVITING a dangerous final line.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 03:35 PM
Jun 2012

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At least it would if they were MY lyrics.
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pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
35. Speaking of which...
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 09:45 AM
Jun 2012

Listening to a 60s station the other day, and what comes on but "The Girl From Ipanema"

Kicky tune and lyrics until...

"But each day when she walks to the sea,
She looks straight ahead, not at he..."

Like your example, I don't care how well it rhymes. It makes me cringe.

And why wasn't it written, "She looks straight ahead, not at ME" ?

oh well

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
11. There is a town that I pass through...
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 03:27 PM
Jun 2012

...when I go to California called "Hope, AZ". They had this old sign welcoming you to Hope. On the other side it said, "Your now beyond Hope."

They replaced the sign a couple of years ago. It still says, "Your now beyond Hope", but now the sign is even more prominent.

The husband and I will be about a mile or so from the sign when the husband just starts giggling. He knows I'm going to go off on a friggin' rant. I tried taking a picture of it once, because my sister didn't believe me. Next time, I guess I'll have to actually get out of the car.

retread

(3,762 posts)
20. Queen of Hearts: Now, where do you come from? Alice: Well, I'm trying to find my way home...
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 05:13 PM
Jun 2012

Queen of Hearts: Your way? All ways here are my ways!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
18. Well I like to think I'm one of those you can say, "You know your shit."
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 04:52 PM
Jun 2012

The other one would make me pissy.

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
39. I hate Kindle
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 11:40 AM
Jun 2012

I can't edit the mistakes.

I've sent back many a library book having edited mistakes and bad grammar. I've also read a few where someone got there before I did. Makes me smile when I see an edited book.

ChazInAz

(2,569 posts)
43. My last boss hated me.
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 02:06 AM
Jun 2012

I have been a high school English teacher, I am an actor....English is one of my tools.
My boss, the last one before I retired, was incapable of using proper grammar or correct spelling. Quite often, he'd ask me the proper spelling of some words whilst toiling over a memo. Being a helpful guy, I'd tell him. That was alright by me...glad to be a resource in the interest of better communications. Apparently some higher-up pointed out to him that it was inappropriate. So the requests stopped, and his memos became virtually unintelligible. Still being a helpful guy, I started correcting his spelling and grammar in red pencil, grading them and sending them back. The memos stopped appearing after a while. I don't know why.
Shortly thereafter, he hired a secretary.
I was just doing my part to create jobs.
Now I'm retired, but I still know my shit!

ashling

(25,771 posts)
44. Knowing your shit is not the question - Communicating your shit is
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 07:12 PM
Jun 2012

Last edited Sun Jun 24, 2012, 07:53 PM - Edit history (1)

" Grammar, perfectly understood, enables us not only to express our meaning fully and clearly, but so to express it as to enable us to defy the ingenuity of man to give to our words any other meaning than that which we ourselves intend them to express."

 

  ~ William Cobbett


I use this quote in my government class. Effective communication is a component of critical thinking.

I have had kids in college who's grammar was so bad as to make their writing incomprehensible. I required one student to visit the campus writing center before I would grade any more of her work.
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