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Aristus

(66,436 posts)
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 12:10 PM Jun 2021

Porky Pig's stutter: offensive? Or subtly enlightening?

Porky Pig became a cartoon star during a time when all manner of offensive stereotypes were commonplace in popular culture. And using a speech impediment for comedic effect was not out of step with the much less-enlightened times back then.

But I wonder if, even accidentally, Porky's stammer may have taught us a little about how people who stutter deal with the difficulties it poses to communication.

Sometimes, Porky would wrangle with a difficult word for a short time before being able to speak the word he intended to use. But sometimes, if his stutter hung him up for a prolonged period, he would overcome the problem by substituting a word very different from the word we could tell he was having trouble with. And the substituted word wasn't always used for comedic effect. It just enabled him to complete his thought.

I doubt audiences in the 1940's gave it very much thought. And it's possible I'm giving it too much thought. But watching President Biden deftly using word substitution in a speech if he seems to be having trouble with a word or phrase brought this to mind.

Thoughts?

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NJCher

(35,706 posts)
1. I do that with writing all the time
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 12:13 PM
Jun 2021

If a phrase doesn't come to mind, I take another route. I might add that I have been a college writing teacher for several decades. I tell my students to do this, too.

Sometimes, though, that is a luxury and it just won't do. Example:

This morning, I can't recall the name of that housekeeping person who has a place on the internet where she tells you want to do for housework. So that email just got pushed aside until it comes to mind.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
9. I think he was a caricature of a Westerns character. He was always shooting his guns.
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 04:31 PM
Jun 2021

I'm not sure but I think he was the one who said "Son, I said SON..." and drawling out some nonsense, but he was a lot of fun.

Niagara

(7,646 posts)
10. It was Sylvester that said "Sufferin' Succotash"
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 05:57 PM
Jun 2021

It was Foghorn Leghorn that would say, "I say, I say boy" or "I say, Son"


You're correct about Yosemite Sam was always shooting his guns.


Here's several short videos to enjoy.












Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
13. A long time ago, I met the creater of Yosemite Sam..Fritz Freeling...at a lecture..
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 09:22 PM
Jun 2021

Sometime in the 70s or early 80s at a college campus lecture. Totally great lecture, talked about his career and
the cartoons he made..As he walked out of the lecture, a group of us walked with him to the car that
was taking him to his hotel. I just listened. He and Chuck Jones made some of the funniest moves/ cartoons
ever made..Chuck Jones created the Road Runner & Wiley E. Coyote...my hero

Wiley E. Coyote never gives up....and I also once met Chuck Jones.

As you know..I love Warner Bros Cartoons...Daffy is the best...

Niagara

(7,646 posts)
14. Wowzers.
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 10:49 PM
Jun 2021

Thank you for sharing your story. This was fantastic to read about and I bet that you were on Cloud 9 while listening to this creative man.




I have several Looney Tunes Collections, but it's not extensive as I'd like it to be. My favorite character is Marvin the Martian.

rurallib

(62,433 posts)
5. That is an interesting question
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 02:32 PM
Jun 2021

One thing it may have done is to make us aware that there were people in the world who did stutter or have another speech problem.
Then when we encountered them they were not considered so strange.

LakeArenal

(28,835 posts)
6. What about Kripkey on Big Bang Theory.
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 02:40 PM
Jun 2021

He had an obvious speech impediment.

They played him as a normal guy.

Well, genius nerd normal.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
12. ...I found this on the internet..Never shown in theaters...shown on TV when FCC softened regulations
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 09:14 PM
Jun 2021

In 1938, a clip of Porky Pig saying “Son of a bitch!” was created as part of a blooper reel, but didn’t air for the public until 2006 when FCC regulations had softened enough for “bitch” to be said on TV

Ocelot II

(115,805 posts)
15. Back in the '70s there was a skit on SNL with Garrett Morris and Cicely Tyson
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 10:55 PM
Jun 2021

where they perform "Porky and Bess," and he sings "Bess, You Is My Woman Now" with the Porky Pig stutter. I L'dMAO.

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