I really want to move out of the States.

[cilla4progress]

But I can't figure it out.

[RKP5637]

1. Some of us are basically really locked in here for many reasons ... n/t

[cilla4progress]

2. Yep.

My situation.

What about 6 mos./yr. in Canada?

[RKP5637]

3. That might be nice! n/t

[Fiendish Thingy]

11. You can stay in Canada on a tourist visa for up to 6 months I think.

But you can’t work, and you won’t have access to the healthcare system.

[question everything]

4. You may want to think, for just 10 seconds

of the tens of thousands who risk their lives trying to move into the states.

Good luck!

[SoCalDavidS]

13. There Are Many Worse Places Than America

But there are also better places.

To think otherwise, means you believe that America is the Best place in the world to live. The way things have become, and will probably be for decades to come, makes me think there are better options out there.

I see bad things to come here.

[secondwind]

5. I am fortunate to have family in Dominican Republic,

my parents, grandparents on both sides and great grands have been on this island since the 1880’s. I moved here in June of 2020, and am not missing the US at all.

I especially am grateful to enjoy DU and all of you every day.

[fierywoman]

6. If you're disgusted by the corruption and fascism here,

I lived abroad (Mexico and Italy) for 12 years -- there's as much there as here, if not more.

[SoCalDavidS]

15. You're Using Mexico As One Of Your Examples?

Yeah, America is a better place to be than Mexico.

And Italy was an Axis member in WW II, so I would hardly hold them up as a place to move to either. They repeatedly elected Berlusconi.

Denmark, Finland, New Zealand, Australia, Netherlands, Canada. All far more liberal, less divided, and Less INSANE than America.

[rownesheck]

7. I've been looking at

Argentina as a possibility. Seems nice enough.

[whathehell]

8. I believe Argentina was a Right Wing dictatorship for many years..

and given that they've had six coups in the last century, I don't believe they're viewed as the most stable country in the world.

Have you ever heard of The Disappeared and The Dirty.War?

You might want to read up on them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_War

[fierywoman]

19. They've also had a kind of inflation where the price of bread rose between lunch and dinner ...

[whathehell]

22. Okaaaaaay..

[Fiendish Thingy]

9. I moved to BC 9 years ago and haven't regretted a day

They’ve changed the rules since I immigrated, but Canada is still seeking immigrants.

https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html

Let me know if you need contact info for an immigration lawyer.

[whathehell]

10. Did you give up your citizenship?

[Fiendish Thingy]

12. I'm a dual citizen, although if Trump is re-elected, or the 2024 election is overturned

I will renounce my US citizenship (not easy or cheap).

[whathehell]

14. Neither of those things is going to happen..

Have a nice day.

[mnhtnbb]

16. Retired? Or still working?

Do you speak another language?

There are expat communities in many countries. A good resource for getting info about other countries is International Living.

I have friends who have lived on Bonaire for more than 25 years. A DUer moved from Philly to France a couple of years ago. I have a friend who moved to France more than 10 years ago and now holds a French passport.

Portugal is appealing to many people, as is Costa Rica.We have a DUer who moved there recently.

I toyed with the idea of moving abroad several years ago. Wanted to go live in France for a couple of months to see how it felt, but before I could arrange it, Covid happened. Now, I think at 70 it's too late for me to tackle it solo.

I'm very worried about this country. Too many stupid people and a totally broken system of government which allows for minority rule due to fundamental flaws that seem to be irreparable.

Good luck figuring it out

[Skittles]

17. 70 ain't too old

but me, I will never abandon my country to fascists, I will stay and fight

[mnhtnbb]

24. Not all 70's are equal.

Ten years ago, I felt 10--well, maybe 7 or 8--years younger than my age. But the last 10 years I have more than caught up.

The decision to live in another country has so many personal components. People have to do what they feel is right for them. What is right for one person may not be right for another.

[roamer65]

18. Move to areas that will secede.

CA, NY and New England will be out if Dump steals another election.

[Mopar151]

20. New England can be a good choice...

Depends on how you are fixed, and what you are looking for. Microclimates are a real thing in economics here, as well as weather.
Town Meeting is as pure as democracy gets.

[Elessar Zappa]

21. New England is one of the only places

in the US that has some blue rural areas, I believe. I think every county in Vermont went for Biden and it’s largely white and rural.

[UTUSN]

23. Yea, I can't figure where else. & I don't want to give up.