Magellan did NOT circumnavigate the earth! PBS, Magellan's Crossing

[elleng]

Five hundred years ago, Ferdinand Magellan and his crew set sail to gain control of the global spice trade. What resulted was the first circumnavigation of the earth.

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[PoindexterOglethorpe]

1. Huh. Really? If he didn't actually circumnavigate the world

how did he sale around the earth?

[elleng]

2. He DIDN't.

He died; a member of the crew took command.

[OhZone]

3. So his ship did it -

** sigh **


Oh well.

Close enough in my eyes.

[elleng]

4. Yes, his ship.

May be the reason we learned it was Magellan.

He discovered Tierra del Fuego, during the voyage.

[Zorro]

5. He died from of his own pigheadedness

[elleng]

6. Yes

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

12. Oh, for chrissakes.

He died. BFG. His crew completed the voyage.

[elleng]

13. 1/2 way through, he died.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Sebasti%C3%A1n_Elcano

[Ron Obvious]

18. Big Fucking... what now? [n/t]

[RockRaven]

7. He got himself killed part way through. But IIRC, one of his crew members was actually THE first

person documented to do so, him individually, because that guy was from somewhere from the Southern/Eastern Pacific and had previously sailed west from there to Europe (I don't recall if that part was willing or unwilling but I sort of recall it being the latter), then was amongst Magellan's crew, so by the time they got to the Southern/Eastern Pacific he became the first known person to go all the way around in the same direction, albeit in stages and not entirely with forethought.

And like history, I forget his name....

[elleng]

8. A BASQUE guy,

Sebastian el Cano, who didn't write a book about it, but set out on another journey, even tho he received an award.

Check PBS, if you can.

[RockRaven]

9. No, not who I meant... I looked it up to refresh my recollection: Enrique of Malacca

This guy: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrique_of_Malacca

Documentation inadequate, probable but not certain. He was certainly within 2500km of a circumnavigation when the Europeans still had tens of thousands of km to go, and there the records fail us, which is not surprising given his social/economic/ethnic/etc status versus who was creating those records.

[elleng]

10. a Castilian navigator of Basque origin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Sebasti%C3%A1n_Elcano

[RockRaven]

11. an angle between 90 and 180 degrees...

Wow.

[Wolf Frankula]

14. Bere izena Juan Sebastian Elkano zan.

His name was Juan Sebastian Elkano. He was from Getaria, a coastal town in Gipuzkoa.

Wolf

[elleng]

15. Right,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Sebasti%C3%A1n_Elcano

[malthaussen]

16. No but one of his crew did.

Black guy (or maybe a mulatto). Forget his name. He did it the hard way: on one voyage, he sailed around the Horn to around Durban, then signed on with Magellan and finished the circumnavigation in the other direction.

-- Mal

[elleng]

17. Elcano

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Sebasti%C3%A1n_Elcano