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left-of-center2012

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Mon Nov 29, 2021, 10:47 AM Nov 2021

Top snooker player falls asleep during match

YORK, England -- Still feeling the effects of the coronavirus, a top snooker player fell asleep in the middle of his match in one of the most prestigious events in the sport. “My head went down and I woke up and I didn’t have a clue where I was,” Mark Williams said after his loss to Anthony Hamilton in the UK Championship late Sunday.

Williams, a three-time world champion and one of snooker's most charismatic players, was in his chair and in the lead at 3-2 when he nodded off while Hamilton was at the table.

The 46-year-old Williams said he was “just shattered,” having just returned to action after contracting COVID-19 in October.

“I need to be playing in the mornings, really, or afternoons. The more the day goes on the more tired I get," said Williams, who lost 6-5 at the York Barbican. “Thirty years as a professional," he added, “that’s the first time I’ve ever fell asleep in the chair.”

https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/needing-break-snooker-player-falls-asleep-match-81442046

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Top snooker player falls asleep during match (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Nov 2021 OP
Snooker isn't the most riveting in the first place, lol. Thomas Hurt Nov 2021 #1
It can be :) EarlG Nov 2021 #2
I was trying to figure out how this game worked and watched several of these. Thomas Hurt Nov 2021 #4
Yes it's not very intuitive :) EarlG Nov 2021 #5
That is what I found interesting about it, very strategic, they have to plan some number of shots... Thomas Hurt Nov 2021 #6
Those glasses are something else. Bristlecone Nov 2021 #7
Yes, his "upside down glasses" were famous EarlG Nov 2021 #8
I kinda hate to say this but Disaffected Nov 2021 #9
Here are a few EarlG Nov 2021 #10
One more :) EarlG Nov 2021 #11
Kids these days. zanana1 Nov 2021 #12
I had mononucleosis in college. Went to sleep during a final. Shrike47 Nov 2021 #3

EarlG

(21,985 posts)
2. It can be :)
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 11:42 AM
Nov 2021


That's the final frame of probably the most famous match ever played, the 1985 World Championship final. Steve Davis, the reigning champion, vs. underdog Dennis Taylor. Best of 35 frames, it went down to the final frame, the match went past midnight on the final day of play, and it was watched by 18.5 million viewers in the UK (still a record for a broadcast after midnight).

The mental pressure on the two players is off the charts. Worth watching!

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
4. I was trying to figure out how this game worked and watched several of these.
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 01:00 PM
Nov 2021

It was interesting to me in that it was a mystery, otherwise it is very sedate and polite, yes?

Even the pro darts and bowlers have flashy outfits...lol.

EarlG

(21,985 posts)
5. Yes it's not very intuitive :)
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 01:18 PM
Nov 2021

Players take turns, if you sink a ball you get to keep going, otherwise play switches to the other player.

Balls have to be sunk in a particular order and are worth different points. At the start of a frame there are 15 red balls and six "colors." At the start of their turn, the player must always go for a red ball first. If they sink a red, they must then go for a color. If they sink a color, they go for another red. They keep going until they miss.

It's important to note that when a red ball goes down, it stays down. But when a color goes down, it is placed back onto the table. Each color has a particular spot that its placed on after it is sunk. This happens until all the reds are gone, then the colors are sunk in order until all the balls are gone.

Reds are worth 1 point. The colors have different point values:

Yellow: 2 points
Green: 3 points
Brown: 4 points
Blue: 5 points
Pink: 6 Points
Black: 7 points

And after the reds are all gone, the colors are sunk in the order above until the end of the frame, at which point the player with the most points wins. (If one player reaches an overwhelming point total before the end of the frame however, the other player will usually concede and a new frame will begin.)

So the best way to score points is to try to get a red ball, then a black ball, then a red ball, then a black ball, etc. because you get 1 + 7 + 1 + 7 etc.

Here's a player doing that in a video which is pretty much the polar opposite of the one I posted above

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
6. That is what I found interesting about it, very strategic, they have to plan some number of shots...
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 01:30 PM
Nov 2021

ahead or just leaving the opponent was fewer options for shots.

Disaffected

(4,572 posts)
9. I kinda hate to say this but
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 08:51 PM
Nov 2021

compared to snooker matches played in the 1930 or 40s IIRC, these more contemporary players, from what I've seen, are not that great.

I'm referring to old, grainy footage I saw as a teenager many years ago which I wish I could relocate (but have had no such luck). Things were very formal then, players dressed in tuxedos playing on ornate, beautiful tables.

And were they good (at least the top tier)! I'm talking here not just about perfect games (or "maximum break" games ) but perfect games being the rule rather than the exception (in shooting a "perfect" game in snooker, one racks up the maximum possible number of points (other than a player committing a foul), that being = 147, by sinking all reds followed by blacks and then the colours in sequence).

These players were so good that, if one missed a shot, he was pretty much guaranteed loosing the game. The "position" (getting the que ball in the right position for the following shot) shots were incredible, a thing of beauty to watch for one who has played snooker.

I see a wiki article on the topic makes no mention of these early games but if anyone knows a source of information, I would be glad to hear of it - I'd love to view them again...

EarlG

(21,985 posts)
10. Here are a few
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 09:16 PM
Nov 2021

Joe Davis in 1939:



Joe Davis scoring the first televised century in 1962:



More Joe Davis (not sure of the year)



Classic snooker highlights (late 1930s)



Ray Reardon and Fred Davis (1977)



The last one is in color but all the others are in black and white, which can make for tricky viewing when it comes to snooker

I'm not sure the players were better per se back then... hard to know. I think there are a lot more century breaks in competitions these days, but if you took the masters from the 30s and 40s and put them on today's tables with modern equipment, who knows.

If you watched the 1985 final in my post above, I think it's a little deceptive how many mistakes the players make. Those are the two best players in the world (at that moment), but they're in the World Championship final, and it's come down to the final frame out of 35, a gruelling multi-day match which was nationally televised with more than 18 million people tuning in for the final frame. The pressure they were under must have been incredibly intense, so I'm not surprised that they were screwing up a lot!

EarlG

(21,985 posts)
11. One more :)
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 09:41 PM
Nov 2021

Here's a compilation of shots by Mark Williams, the guy who fell asleep in the OP.



I dunno about resting his eyes when his opponent is at the table -- his cuing action is so good, sometimes he rests his eyes in the middle of a shot!
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