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Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 05:16 PM Dec 2021

Fire all Gen Z bartenders!

They are universally terrible. All they do is stand around staring at their phones or gossiping with their equally vapid co-workers about their tattoos or something.
Actually the drinking age should be raised to 30. Stop these criminals before they order another chocolate martini!

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Fire all Gen Z bartenders! (Original Post) Tomconroy Dec 2021 OP
Nah, let 'em be PJMcK Dec 2021 #1
That might work! Tomconroy Dec 2021 #2
And the R's are in lockstep with the Petroleum industry TheRealNorth Dec 2021 #3
I want a bartender that when I ask them what they do, they look at me like I'm nuts ... marble falls Dec 2021 #4
Years ago I was at an Itzhak Pearlman concert at the Bushnell Tomconroy Dec 2021 #6
I had a similar experience ordering a Rob Roy at a jazz club. Coventina Dec 2021 #15
Hear, hear! Ron Obvious Dec 2021 #5
Couldn't agree more! Tomconroy Dec 2021 #7
Oh, please! SergeStorms Dec 2021 #8
It's dessert for grownups. nt Phoenix61 Dec 2021 #12
Tiramisu is desert for grownups. SergeStorms Dec 2021 #21
The Martini went downhill Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #14
If shaken, a Martini is properly called a Bradford (I grew up in London with a father Celerity Dec 2021 #17
Shaking a Gin Martini, especially vigorously, Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #18
I think vodka martinis became the default at many bars TexasBushwhacker Dec 2021 #39
I think you are correct. Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #42
Ya mean like my favorite, a cosmopolitan?? It's pink AND vodka a kennedy Dec 2021 #30
Nothing. Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #31
The chocolate martini was invented in 1955, for Rock Hudson & Elizabeth Taylor whilst filming Giant Celerity Dec 2021 #16
And they're both dead now! SergeStorms Dec 2021 #19
lolol Celerity Dec 2021 #22
My Dad loved those. SergeStorms Dec 2021 #25
A great brandy to use is Bertoux, from California, affordable, craft, and made for mixing Celerity Dec 2021 #26
Well, my Dad's been dead for 25 years... SergeStorms Dec 2021 #38
I am so sorry about your father, regardless of the timespan since his passing. Celerity Dec 2021 #41
I was at a restaurant Sunday, and do you know what the Drink of the Day was? Polybius Dec 2021 #20
Kahlua Gingerbread? TexasBushwhacker Dec 2021 #40
wow DonCoquixote Dec 2021 #9
I'm not expecting Gen Z to save my butt. I wish they would get Tomconroy Dec 2021 #10
if your priority is a "proper martini" DonCoquixote Dec 2021 #24
Agreed...fellow Gen Xer... ZenDem Dec 2021 #27
thank you DonCoquixote Dec 2021 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author ZenDem Dec 2021 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #32
HAH!1 - i feel your pain! UTUSN Dec 2021 #11
I just wish every one under 30 would Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #13
yes Skittles Dec 2021 #37
I can only drink a little alcohol that I like so I either... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #23
I love Creme de Menthe Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #33
My sib loves that. 👍 electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #34
And get off my lawn!!! nt DeeNice Dec 2021 #28
I find the phone obsession crosses all generations Skittles Dec 2021 #36

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
1. Nah, let 'em be
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 05:31 PM
Dec 2021

Just tell the barkeep to leave the bottle in front of you and you'll keep track of your drinks. (wink)

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
3. And the R's are in lockstep with the Petroleum industry
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 05:35 PM
Dec 2021

Look at the prices of oil, plastics, and chemicals derived from oil.

Plastic is around 30% more expensive since Nov 2020.

marble falls

(57,102 posts)
4. I want a bartender that when I ask them what they do, they look at me like I'm nuts ...
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 06:02 PM
Dec 2021

... and say, "What? I'm a bartender." Not a student, a musician, a writer, a dancer, an actor, saving for a car or a house - anything but maybe "a lawyer trying to pass the bar exam."

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
6. Years ago I was at an Itzhak Pearlman concert at the Bushnell
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 06:30 PM
Dec 2021

Auditorium in Hartford. I rushed out at intermission to reach the lobby bar
I said to the old guy pouring drinks: 'Give me a Rob Roy!'
He gave me a hard look for a few seconds and then said: 'I haven't heard that drink order in twenty years!'
Of course he made it perfectly. Old bartenders are the cat's Meow!

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
15. I had a similar experience ordering a Rob Roy at a jazz club.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 10:30 PM
Dec 2021

I was 21 years old.

The bartender was probably my grandfather's age.

He was so happy!

I still remember his delight to this day.....30 years on!

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
5. Hear, hear!
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 06:13 PM
Dec 2021

I actually think everybody under 30 should be taken into mandatory re-education camps in order to rid them of their shallow narcissism and aspirations to victimhood.

Never trust anyone under 30!

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
8. Oh, please!
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 06:39 PM
Dec 2021

A chocolate martini is actually a thing?

It's been a long time since I sat on a barstool. The Gen-Zers were all in their Huggies yet. I don't feel qualified to comment on them, but I can comment on something as horrid as a 'chocolate martini'. What a devastating waste of liquor. A martini isn't supposed to taste like candy.

What has become of today's young people.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
21. Tiramisu is desert for grownups.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:15 PM
Dec 2021

A chocolate martini is alcohol for people not old enough to appreciate the taste of alcohol.

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
14. The Martini went downhill
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 09:08 PM
Dec 2021

as soon as the first person thought they could be made with Vodka.

I blame James Bond. Skaken, not stirred will ruin a Martini made with Gin.

Celerity

(43,408 posts)
17. If shaken, a Martini is properly called a Bradford (I grew up in London with a father
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 10:54 PM
Dec 2021

who worked his way through some of his uni degrees as a sommelier/bartender and also, in Paris, as the main assistant to the sous-chef of a one Michelin-starred resto.

Food and booze are religion in the household of my upbringing, lol.

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
18. Shaking a Gin Martini, especially vigorously,
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:06 PM
Dec 2021

ruins a good Gin. It will appear cloudy due to tiny bubbles the shaking causes. This is known as bruising the Gin. It's not a problem with Vodka.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,196 posts)
39. I think vodka martinis became the default at many bars
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:00 AM
Dec 2021

Because the difference between good gin and cheap gin is dramatic, taste wise, whereas cheap vodka in a cocktail will probably go unnoticed.

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
42. I think you are correct.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 01:59 AM
Dec 2021

Vodka also mixes well with other flavors. This allows a Vodka "menu". Let's face it, a Gin Martini is a Gin Martini. You can use different garnishes, vary the amount of Vermouth, add a little Olive Oil and that's about it. No one wants a Chocolate Gin Martini. I get that.

The other thing is, Gin has a love it or hate it flavor for most people. I was disgusted with the first one I tasted. It was cheap Gin and poorly made. I didn't acquire a taste for Gin until I had top notch Gin and a Martini that was properly made. Today the craft Gin market has exploded. I've tasted a few and loved them, I wish I could afford to keep many of them on my shelf, but my retirement budget won't allow that. I have stuck with Tanqueray for nearly 50 years and still enjoy it.

a kennedy

(29,672 posts)
30. Ya mean like my favorite, a cosmopolitan?? It's pink AND vodka
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 03:36 PM
Dec 2021

So really what’s wrong with it being made with vodka??

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
31. Nothing.
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 03:41 PM
Dec 2021

It's just not a true classic Martini. But drink what you like. That's what's important.

The problem is in all those James Bond movies, He would say "shaken, not stirred" so many bartenders think that's what you do with all Martinis. It's okay with Vodka, but it affects good Gin in a negative way. It seems when I order one in a bar, if I don't specify to stir it, not shake it, they will shake it just about every time.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
25. My Dad loved those.
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 12:06 PM
Dec 2021

Correction, there weren't many alcoholic drinks my Dad didn't love, but he was especially fond of Brandy Alexander's. 😉

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
38. Well, my Dad's been dead for 25 years...
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 10:53 PM
Dec 2021

and I haven't had a drink in 23 years due to medication issues. I used to be a Remy-Martin man when I drank. I know, Cognac vs. Brandy. There's not much difference between the two. Not all Brandys are Cognacs, but all Cognacs are Brandys. At least that's what I was told by a Manhattan bartender/sommelier.

Thanks for the tip though. If I ever start drinking again I'll keep it in mind.

Celerity

(43,408 posts)
41. I am so sorry about your father, regardless of the timespan since his passing.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:27 AM
Dec 2021

You are correct about brandy and Cognac.

Brandy has many subtypes, such as Armagnac, Cognac, etc, plus the many types of eau de vie, such as pomace (grappa, marc, etc, and also rye pomace, etc) and the myriad number of fruit brandies, like calvados (apple) and slivovitz (plum), etc .

Polybius

(15,428 posts)
20. I was at a restaurant Sunday, and do you know what the Drink of the Day was?
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:13 PM
Dec 2021

A Ginger-tini. It was a super sweet drink that consisted of Godiva White Chocolate Liqueur, Kahlua Gingerbread, and vodka. Needless to say, I had two.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,196 posts)
40. Kahlua Gingerbread?
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:06 AM
Dec 2021

That sounds weird. Now Captain Morgan's makes a gingerbread rum this time of year that's delish.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
9. wow
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 07:00 PM
Dec 2021

with alll the hate towards gen z, especially since a lot of the genuine victimhood is because the boomers, and my Gen X wasted time while the GOP grew, is sad. When the GOP was busy making new recipes for soylent green, do not be surprised if the Z's do nto come to save your butt.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
10. I'm not expecting Gen Z to save my butt. I wish they would get
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 07:12 PM
Dec 2021

off their butts and make me a proper martini. Shaken to waltz time like William Powell said. Not frozen because it was shaken to the tempo of some horrible modern dance.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
24. if your priority is a "proper martini"
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 08:07 AM
Dec 2021

then it is no surprise how many other priorities are going by the wayside.

ZenDem

(442 posts)
27. Agreed...fellow Gen Xer...
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 01:30 PM
Dec 2021

I grew up hearing "when I was your age" and vowed to never be that person. My taste in music, art, movies...everything...was ridiculed and even forbidden. I thought of my parents and other "old" people as shallow and grumpy.

I will listen to new music, eat new food, experience new things until I die. I might not agree with it all or come close to understanding their reasons for some things. It's not my problem nor theirs.

I also actually love Chocolate Martinis, though I prefer a "real" Martini...with gin.

Anyway...a lot of the Gen Zers are pretty good kids. Smart, environmentally conscious, concerned about the future of humanity. Don't care if they can't serve me a drink.

Cheers to all ages...old, young, and ageless.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
35. thank you
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 05:47 PM
Dec 2021

There is growing older, and there is growing old..sad thing though, based on the responses, it sounded like a lot of people grew old, but they sure as hell never planned to get mature and responsible. Half of them will probably be screaming at waiters the night they die.

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Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
13. I just wish every one under 30 would
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 09:03 PM
Dec 2021

ANSWER THEIR GOD DAMN PHONE!

We have communications devices that are beyond anything we dreamed of just a few decades ago, and we are using them to avoid talking to each other.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
37. yes
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 06:39 PM
Dec 2021

talking to a very young neighbor who is upset over some kind of text war with a sibling - when I suggested he actually CALL his brother he acted like that was a novel idea

electric_blue68

(14,906 posts)
23. I can only drink a little alcohol that I like so I either...
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:58 PM
Dec 2021

drizzle some Kahlua over ice cream, or after not being in my supermarket for nearly a year - Hagan Daz Vanilla Ice Cream w chocolate truffles, and Bourbon just reappeared.
👏

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
36. I find the phone obsession crosses all generations
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 06:38 PM
Dec 2021

and yes, it is especially irritating when they are supposed to be WORKING

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