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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 10:46 AM Jan 2022

Did anyone get the Final Jeopardy last night? I was verklimpt...

even the champion (who is amazing) didn't get it!

I did know it couldn't be S & G because of the religious reference (since they are both Jewish).

I don't wanna give it away but it was tough but clever (I think my son might know).

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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
5. I looked for your thread and couldn't find it! when did you post it?
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 12:39 PM
Jan 2022

Let me know. I'd like to see it!

You might be interested in my latest book, on Art and Music. There's a whole section on St. Cecilia(the goddess and then saint of music) inspiring several works of art devoted to her. Yes, Paul Simon knew of the legend when he wrote "Oh Cecilia).

I also had a section on the music album covers (mostly in the 70s) when we had 78 rpm records. (no, I didn't do Sgt. Peppers as it's been done to death). However, I did a rather short take on Ernie Barns's relationship with Marvin Gaye and Gaye's album cover of Barnes's work "Sugar Shack." I'll send you a copy as soon as soon as my editor/designer finishes it. PM me your name/street address if you'd like to see it.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,459 posts)
6. That was forever ago, and it's going to take me a long time to find it.
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 12:53 PM
Jan 2022

It was one of my numerous "On this day," threads. It might have been in GD.

I'll see what I can do.

Happy New Year.

{a few minutes later}

Oh, my bad. It was one of Dennis Donovan's threads.

Sat Jul 6, 2019: 62 Years Ago Today; John meets Paul at the Woolton Fete - birth of the Beatles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Quarrymen#Paul_McCartney_joins_the_group



The famous photo of the Quarrymen playing at St. Peter's Church garden fête, where Lennon and McCartney first met. From left to right: Griffiths, Hanton, Davis, Lennon, Shotton, Garry

On 6 July 1957, The Quarrymen played at the St. Peter's Church Rose Queen garden fête in Woolton. They first played on the back of a moving flatbed lorry, in a procession of floats that carried the Rose Queen and retiring Rose Queen, Morris dancers, Boy Scouts, Brownies, Girl Guides and Cubs, led by the Band of the Cheshire Yeomanry. At 4:15, they played on a permanent stage in the field behind the church, before a display by the City of Liverpool Police Dogs. They were playing "Come Go with Me" when Paul McCartney arrived, and in the Scout hut after the set, Ivan Vaughan introduced McCartney to Lennon, who chatted for a few minutes before the band set up in the church hall for their performance at that evening's "Grand Dance". McCartney demonstrated how he tuned his guitar and then sang Eddie Cochran's "Twenty Flight Rock", Gene Vincent's "Be-Bop-A-Lula", and a medley of Little Richard songs.

Vaughan and McCartney left before the evening show which started at 8 o'clock. During the performance, there was an unexpected thunderstorm, which made the lights go out. Bob Molyneux, a young schoolmate from Quarry Bank, recorded part of the performance on his Grundig TK8 portable reel-to-reel tape recorder. The tape included versions of Lonnie Donegan's "Puttin' on the Style" and Elvis' "Baby Let's Play House". In 1963, Molyneux offered the tape to Lennon via Ringo Starr, but Lennon never responded, so Molyneux put the tape in a vault.

As they were walking home after the evening performance, Lennon and Shotton discussed the afternoon encounter with McCartney, and Lennon said that perhaps they should invite McCartney to join the band. Two weeks later, Shotton encountered McCartney cycling through Woolton, and conveyed Lennon's casual invitation for him to join the Quarrymen, and Vaughan also invited McCartney to join. McCartney said he would join after Scout camp in Hathersage, and a holiday with his family at Butlins holiday camp in Filey, Yorkshire. Shotton and Davis both left the Quarrymen in August, feeling that the group was moving away from skiffle and towards rock, leaving their instruments superfluous. When McCartney returned from holiday, he began rehearsing with the Quarrymen, playing songs such as "Bye Bye Love" (The Everly Brothers) and "All Shook Up", which Lennon and the group had been trying to learn, without success.

McCartney made his debut with the band on 18 October 1957 at a Conservative Club social held at the New Clubmoor Hall in the Norris Green section of Liverpool. Lennon and McCartney wore cream-coloured sports jackets, which were paid for by the whole group—Walley collected half a crown per week from each member until they were paid for — and the others wore white shirts with tassels and black bootlace ties. To the irritation of the other group members, McCartney endlessly practised the lead guitar intro to "Raunchy". The Quarrymen continued to play sparse gigs throughout the autumn of 1957, mostly for local promoter Charlie McBain. During this period, the group almost entirely excised skiffle from their repertoire, focusing on covers of songs by rock and roll singers such as Elvis Presley, Carl Perkins, Little Richard, and Larry Williams, and the Quarrymen's sound increasingly relied on harmony singing between Lennon and McCartney. An extremely important influence for them at the time was Buddy Holly and his group the Crickets. Around this time, Lennon and McCartney both started writing songs influenced by Holly - Lennon's "Hello Little Girl" and McCartney's "I Lost My Little Girl" - and both were impressed with each other's efforts. The two began writing together, and their writing partnership would become very successful throughout the 1960s.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
8. Oh, thank you for taking the trouble to look it up!
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 01:41 PM
Jan 2022

That is very nice of you!

What a great story. We just saw the 8 hour program on that famous recording studio episode of the early Beatles ("Get Back"?). It was wonderful.

We had a Paul McCartney siting here in New Haven a few years back. A grandson (I think) was attending Yale at the time and Paul went to the Harvard-Yale Game. One of the Obama daughters was in attendance on the Harvard side. We were told of both of their attendance by one of the Bowl employees.That was 3 years ago and a crowd of students came onto the field at half time while the Band was leaving. The crowd was demonstrating against Harvard and Yale's investments that were making money on products that were poisoning the environment. The governors of CT and MA were in attendance and came to the field to negotiate with them and get the game going again. It was getting dark and the Bowl has no lights.

My husband and I left before the end, thinking Harvard won. But Yale actually won, in two plays, in the dark.

I found out later that actor Sam Waterston was there (he's a Yalie) and joined in the protest. I also found out that Presidents of the U.S. cannot attend Yale Bowl games because the openness of the Bowl prevented any guarantee of their safety.







rampartc

(5,407 posts)
7. i guessed simon & garfunkle
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 12:56 PM
Jan 2022

but i thought that they might be a little too young to be drunk in 1956 .....

Bongo Prophet

(2,650 posts)
9. So which one was "the little fat kid"?
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 01:42 PM
Jan 2022

That threw me off.
Lennon/McCartney flashed through my mind, but neither of them have I ever heard of described as "fat kid" that I could recall. I thought S&G made more sense as with P Simon being pudgy and Art being drunk (being Jewish, likely just a visitor coming in after a few drinks or something) So, like all 3 contestants, I blew it.

My partner got it right though. So after watching it she called me in to see the replay to see if I could get it. She won, and I gave her all the Jeopardy bux and some praise.

Bongo Prophet

(2,650 posts)
12. He did imply that by saying "presumably, Lennon was drunk" if memory serves
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 02:15 PM
Jan 2022

On reflection, I can see Sir Paul telling the story with a self-deprecating addition referring to himself as just a fat little schoolkid. That tracks with his personality and style of reminiscence.

I also wasn't aware of P Simon being Jewish. I just wrongly assumed Catholic for some reason. "The more you know!"

Thanks for the thread, CT! Your posts have long been a pleasure, and I learn from you often.

Danmel

(4,915 posts)
15. Simon and Garfunkel are nice Jewish boys from Queens
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 03:18 PM
Jan 2022

So I ruled them out immediately. The time frame made total sense for the Beatles.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
16. What threw me off was that I was picturing a pair, not four, of musicians.
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 03:27 PM
Jan 2022

My guess is that is what threw off Amy (or so I would like to think).

We have the question in our paper copy of the NYT so we get mentally prepared each week day. If I can't stand it any more I'll do "research" online. Hubby says it's a euphemism for "cheating." I find that word quite harsh...

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