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Aristus

(66,380 posts)
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 10:50 AM Jan 2022

Movie/TV cliche I absolutely hate:

Wife/girlfriend ties or adjusts her husband/boyfriend’s tie.

I hate that!

I can tie a bow tie and know four ways to tie a necktie. I don’t need anyone to come along and do it for me.

I don’t know how often this happens in real life, but I wish they’d get rid of it on TV.

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Movie/TV cliche I absolutely hate: (Original Post) Aristus Jan 2022 OP
Not being snarky but if that bothers you the rest of your life must be pretty damn good. NoMoreRepugs Jan 2022 #1
It's just one of life's little irritations that gives one a break Aristus Jan 2022 #3
Well, you're just very talented and careful about how you tie your ties. Fla Dem Jan 2022 #2
The only thing more annoying than guys who don't know how to dress Aristus Jan 2022 #5
"Before I kill you, let me tell you how our plan is going to work." NT mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2022 #4
Monologing! Aristus Jan 2022 #7
Hey, I hate that too. zanana1 Jan 2022 #6
If I have any identifiable remains after a nuclear holocaust, Aristus Jan 2022 #8
Oh come on Aristus Diamond_Dog Jan 2022 #9
Red-blooded or not, I'm fifty-three. Aristus Jan 2022 #12
Her characters would probably strangle you with it . 😁😁😁 Srkdqltr Jan 2022 #16
What a way to die happy, though! Aristus Jan 2022 #25
While smoking cigarettes. LakeArenal Jan 2022 #18
Never ever happen here! Glamrock Jan 2022 #10
It fits into the whole "men are incompetent" theme that permeates TV these days Clash City Rocker Jan 2022 #11
My wife is both much smarter and more attractive than I am. Aristus Jan 2022 #26
Another annoying Movie/TC cliche Sanity Claws Jan 2022 #13
Or a French baguette. Aristus Jan 2022 #14
I hate it when the plot revolves around nocoincidences Jan 2022 #15
Haven't seen snowybirdie Jan 2022 #17
I don't hate this but: LakeArenal Jan 2022 #19
Or when the woman comes to the rescue and shoots the bad guy/monster. Aristus Jan 2022 #20
This one: Criminal Minds LakeArenal Jan 2022 #21
Lol, I wear bow ties frequently, as well as neckties Docreed2003 Jan 2022 #22
"Can I Get a Beer?" DarthDem Jan 2022 #23
Remember generic products from the '80's? Aristus Jan 2022 #24
That happened in the movie "Repo Man" Clash City Rocker Jan 2022 #27
Never saw the film. Aristus Jan 2022 #29
One of my all time favorites! RandiFan1290 Jan 2022 #30
When I was in law school in the 80s there was an absolutely fabulous BBQ joint rsdsharp Jan 2022 #39
This gesture is not just about the tie. It is very personal, intimate. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #28
That's a very positive way of looking at it. Aristus Jan 2022 #31
Women are DNA hard wired to take care of people. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #32
Or both. Aristus Jan 2022 #33
The fleeing woman trips and falls mainer Jan 2022 #34
I think of it as a sort of allogrooming, Ocelot II Jan 2022 #35
Well...... Bayard Jan 2022 #36
I used to like it when a woman would snap the elastic on my suspenders. Aristus Jan 2022 #37
However, a man's tie can get askew TexasBushwhacker Jan 2022 #38
I can tie the three major necktie knots, and a couple of minor ones, rsdsharp Jan 2022 #40
One advantage the bow tie has over the necktie: Aristus Jan 2022 #41
Well, that doesn't work for me. It just looks like I spent more time rsdsharp Jan 2022 #42
I have a few bow ties appropriate for business wear. Aristus Jan 2022 #43

Fla Dem

(23,675 posts)
2. Well, you're just very talented and careful about how you tie your ties.
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 10:57 AM
Jan 2022

I would guess there are many guys who aren't. Silly thing to get emotional about.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
5. The only thing more annoying than guys who don't know how to dress
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:01 AM
Jan 2022

themselves is having that pointed out in movies and on TV.

zanana1

(6,121 posts)
6. Hey, I hate that too.
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:03 AM
Jan 2022

I know it isn't as drastic as say, a nuclear explosion, but I do really hate it.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
8. If I have any identifiable remains after a nuclear holocaust,
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:04 AM
Jan 2022

I at least want the survivors to know I was well-dressed.

Diamond_Dog

(32,000 posts)
9. Oh come on Aristus
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:05 AM
Jan 2022

Isn’t every red blooded American male supposed to be totally helpless and enjoy a kittenish young lady tying his tie for him? You would certainly think so if you watch any old movies from the 40s, 50s and 60s.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
12. Red-blooded or not, I'm fifty-three.
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:10 AM
Jan 2022

Kittenish young ladies are not really my thing. I’m more of a Helen Mirren kind of guy.

Having said that, I’m not averse to having her help me take my tie off

Glamrock

(11,801 posts)
10. Never ever happen here!
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:09 AM
Jan 2022

My wife can’t tie a tie. She does help me put on and adjust my tidy whities….so there’s that! 🤣🤣🤣

Clash City Rocker

(3,396 posts)
11. It fits into the whole "men are incompetent" theme that permeates TV these days
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:09 AM
Jan 2022

Usually the man has a wife who is much smarter than him, and usually much more attractive too. On kid’s shows, the kids are often smarter than their father. It is a little annoying.

I rarely wear a tie, so I don’t have your expertise at tying them, therefore that has never bothered me. But I see where you’re coming from.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
26. My wife is both much smarter and more attractive than I am.
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:12 PM
Jan 2022

I’d be like one of those sitcom guys, except I dress nicely in order to narrow the attractiveness gap a little.

Sanity Claws

(21,849 posts)
13. Another annoying Movie/TC cliche
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:12 AM
Jan 2022

A grocery bag with celery sticking out the top.

But I guess that cliche will disappear because grocery stores no longer give out paper grocery bags.

nocoincidences

(2,220 posts)
15. I hate it when the plot revolves around
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:14 AM
Jan 2022

several characters doing impulsive stupid things.

Several movies and serials I have watched recently had parents who just HAD to do dumb things to try to get their kids because they just had to do something!!! So yeah, pick the most useless dumb thing you could possibly do, and do that!

I am not impulsive, and I really don't get it. If all you can think of to do is dumb pointless interference, just STOP. Sometimes it is best to just do nothing.

This virus is making me cranky, ya think?

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
19. I don't hate this but:
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:27 AM
Jan 2022

When there is a couple running, she is always the one that falls down or trips over a rock.

Then, when they kill the monster, they always turn their back on it. Of course, the monster gets up for one more battle.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
20. Or when the woman comes to the rescue and shoots the bad guy/monster.
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:29 AM
Jan 2022

Then drops the gun and bursts into tears.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
21. This one: Criminal Minds
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:37 AM
Jan 2022

Morgan the hot sexy fit trained professional is constantly sucker punched from behind when searching a building. It happened so often we call it being “Morganed”. Now any show where the trained cop gets hit from behind.

Docreed2003

(16,860 posts)
22. Lol, I wear bow ties frequently, as well as neckties
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:44 AM
Jan 2022

But my wife always does the straightening act after I get dressed. I'm convinced it's because of this movie trope because I can tie my ties without using a mirror.

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
23. "Can I Get a Beer?"
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:47 AM
Jan 2022

This one always amuses me. It's when a character enters a bar and must for some reason be shown interacting with a bartender (almost always a nonspeaking part) by ordering an alcoholic beverage. Yes, we understand that the movie or TV show didn't want to pay for the right to use a brand name, and/or didn't want to alienate viewers by having the character's drink preference displayed. But there are sooooo many ways to write a scene where a character goes to a bar and orders a drink and yet avoids this vexing problem. Just one: "Whatever you have on tap, thanks." Another - have the character point and say "Could I get one of those?" without showing the item.

Or writers can carry on with the cliché. I always crack up thinking about the likely reaction from a real-life bartender to "Can I get a beer?"

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
24. Remember generic products from the '80's?
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:58 AM
Jan 2022

I’d love it if the bartender plunked down a bottle on the bar, black sans serif on a white label: ‘BEER’.

Clash City Rocker

(3,396 posts)
27. That happened in the movie "Repo Man"
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:30 PM
Jan 2022

There’s a running joke about generic products. At one point, the main character is eating out of a tin can labeled “Food.” Another scene has a character say “Let’s go get some drinks,” and then they’re in a store buying a six pack. Every can is simply labeled “Drink.”

Look at the products on the shelves in this scene.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
29. Never saw the film.
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:36 PM
Jan 2022

I’ll have to have a look.

Funny story: famous writer Harlan Ellison screened the film before release in his role as a film critic for the Writer’s Guild of America.

He said to his friend Robert Silverberg: “That kid looks and sounds exactly like a young Martin Sheen.” Silverberg replied: “That’s Emilio Estevez, Martin Sheen’s son”.

rsdsharp

(9,181 posts)
39. When I was in law school in the 80s there was an absolutely fabulous BBQ joint
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 02:42 PM
Jan 2022

a couple of blocks from campus. It was in an old house with a hole covered with a board on the front steps. The mud room you passed on the way to order had free Frogger and Mario Bros. games. The “dining room” (four tables) was papered in red foil with a sting art portrait of the pit master, Big Daddy, on the wall.

Every table got a Tupper Ware pitcher of water, and it you ordered a soft drink, it came in a can labeled “Cola”, “Lemon Lime” or “Root Beer.”

But God, I miss the food.

Irish_Dem

(47,107 posts)
28. This gesture is not just about the tie. It is very personal, intimate.
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:31 PM
Jan 2022

Think about the pictures we have seen of Michelle adjusting her husband's tie. Do you think for a moment that Obama would allow any other woman to do this kind of thing for him?

It is a woman's way of saying, I am taking care of you. I want you to look good. I want to touch you in public. I love you.

Women have been exhibiting this non verbal love message for a very long time. It is not going to stop any time soon.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
31. That's a very positive way of looking at it.
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:42 PM
Jan 2022

I see it as infantilizing.

My wife doesn’t do that with me, probably because I’m the best-dressed guy she knows.

Irish_Dem

(47,107 posts)
32. Women are DNA hard wired to take care of people.
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:46 PM
Jan 2022

This is how the species has survived. So it is Darwinian in nature.

Your wife knows you don't like it most likely so she is giving you space I assume.

Or yes you are a sartorial wonder!

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
33. Or both.
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:48 PM
Jan 2022


Someone once told me: If you can’t be good-looking, be well-dressed.

I think it was my mother…

Ocelot II

(115,706 posts)
35. I think of it as a sort of allogrooming,
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 01:11 PM
Jan 2022

which is social grooming between members of the same species, as when a cat licks the ear of another cat in its household. Maybe you would prefer having your ear licked?

Unlike many movie cliches, this one happens a lot in real life. Back in the days when I had a husband, I often adjusted his tie because he usually looked like he just crawled out of a tumble dryer. Sometimes drastic steps must be taken.

Bayard

(22,075 posts)
36. Well......
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 02:09 PM
Jan 2022

Most men would not mind a woman fondling their tie, if you think of a tie as a phallic symbol.



Aside from that--yes, I really hate the women always tripping and falling/crying, and being saved by the big strong man. Give me Ripley any day!

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
37. I used to like it when a woman would snap the elastic on my suspenders.
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 02:22 PM
Jan 2022

Now that, I thought, was very flirtatious!

TexasBushwhacker

(20,190 posts)
38. However, a man's tie can get askew
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 02:37 PM
Jan 2022

And unless he looks in a mirror, he won't know it. Hence, a lady, probably HIS lady, straightens it for him. It doesn't mean he's incompetent.

rsdsharp

(9,181 posts)
40. I can tie the three major necktie knots, and a couple of minor ones,
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 02:52 PM
Jan 2022

but I could never tie a bow tie. It always ends up looking like I was in a fight with the tie and lost.

I hate poorly tied ties. Watching the Rittenhouse trial I kept screaming at the screen, “Tighten the damn knot, you little prick!”

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
41. One advantage the bow tie has over the necktie:
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 02:55 PM
Jan 2022

With a necktie, if you get the knot wrong, you have to pull the thing apart and start all over again. With a bow tie, if the bow doesn't come out looking camera-ready the first time, a little tugging, pulling, and twisting on the ends can get you there without having to undo it and start again.

rsdsharp

(9,181 posts)
42. Well, that doesn't work for me. It just looks like I spent more time
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 03:04 PM
Jan 2022

making it look bad in a different way.

A senior partner in our firm was famous for wearing bow ties (among other, more prominent things). He said he began wearing bow ties because, as a young associate, he realized he could buy three bow ties for the price of one long tie.

I don’t know if that’s true. I’ve never purchased a bow tie.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
43. I have a few bow ties appropriate for business wear.
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 03:09 PM
Jan 2022

But most of them are for black tie outfits. I love the feeling I get after a formal occasion when I can pull the bow tie apart and let the ends hang like Frank Sinatra.

Also, I essentially learned how to tie a bow tie because I'll be damned if I'll wear a clip-on.

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