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I've been reading up on Michael Jackson all week. suddenly, they're back in the news.
Let me say that I believe 3 important things:
1. Michael Jackson was a serial pedophile, provable with endless proof all over the media, for many years.
2. Michael Jackson was a phenomenal composer, arranger, producer, singer, and of course, dancer. His music will never be forgotten.
3. Michael Jackson's kids have no way to figure out what their place in the world is, and I feel totally sorry for them.
At this point, I don't know if the family is simply fighting over the money that the kids will someday control, or if there is a serious problem that some of them are attempting to curtail.
I don't have all that much faith in Katherine. She tolerates unbelievable abuse of her own children their entire lives and seldom shows the slightest ability to make a responsible decision on anyone's behalf.
I know they have to keep those kids away from Joe. He's just a storybook monster of hollywood proportions.
If anyone wanted my opinion of where those 3 kids should go (and I realize that will never happen) I think I would lean toward the eldest daughter, known as Rebbie, who was never on stage. My second choices might be Latoya or Janet. After everything I've read, I really don't trust any of the brothers as far as I could pick them up and throw them.
Does anyone on DU know what's been going on recently? Anyone know why Prince Michael is talking to twitter? Does he know what he's really doing?
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)And to me, they don't resemble MJ in the slightest. IMO, that entire family from Joe onwards, defines the word dysfunctional.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)We only know for sure that Paris and Micheal were surrogated by Michael's dermatologist's nurse, who gave up all claim to them. No one knows where Blanket's dna came from.
Sometimes I think the kids should be with the surrogate Mom, but she may not want to be tangled up with this nutsy family, and I wouldn't blame her.
I hope the judges and lawyers can keep an eye on the kids and make sure they're ok.
Anyone know what kind of stable household Tito can provide these days? I know all the brothers were temporarily married and them divorced. I don't know anything about them now.
When you read the Andersen bio, Joe was beyond belief in his abuse of them all, and that was his own childhood, as well. Even Joe's grandfather was a monster.
These 3 kids are on the receiving end of generations of abuse. It's so sad. They never asked to be thrown into this mess.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Michael's brothers and sisters, including Janet, are trying to get their hands on what is left of his fortune. They will fail because courts have already ruled against them multiple times.
It is sad, but also common that families of the rich and famous try to break the will they are excluded from. Much money will end up lining the pockets of the lawyers involved.
The careers of the other members of the Jackson 5 ended decades ago, with no new source of income. Janet's career is over, though she was very successful, I don't know how much money she kept.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)No lie!
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)rocktivity
(44,576 posts)because they don't have his DNA in the slightest.
Apparently, Michael's 82-year-old mother Katherine has lost guardianship of them:
Janet, 46, has not responded publicly to accusations shes one of the mysterious third parties who whisked Katherine away to an Arizona spa and kept her in isolation for a 10-day absence that led a Los Angeles judge to suspend her guardianship of Michaels three kids.
A court-appointed lawyer who spoke to Paris and Prince Michael Monday night told Judge Mitchell Beckloff Wednesday that the two oldest children wanted their cousin TJ Jackson, one of Tito Jacksons sons, to make a temporary guardianship bid in Katherines absence.
The judge granted TJ's request in court after he claimed Katherine's voice sounded "slurred" when she finally made phone contact with the kids Tuesday night, nine days after she left on what was supposed to be a trip to watch her sons perform.
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libodem
(19,288 posts)I hope someone loves them and let's them know it. It's so hard being a kid. I hope they can be rescued, kept together and much loved by a good and decent person or people.
Hell, they could likely afford a nice home and have it staffed with all the people who do what a mom does--- cook, housemaid, launder-er, gardener, groundskeeper,driver, nurse, and dispenser of unconditional love and hugs.
Supply a dad figure.
A surrogate family for the surrogate children.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)Michael named Diana Ross as a replacement for the grandmother. If her health is really failing, I hope Diana's up to it and the kids know her. I have no idea if they do. At least Diana doesn't want the money, and she has the power to keep the jacksons following judges' orders.
Hopefully Paris is old enough to make good decisions.
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/entertainment&id=8748772
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(82,333 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)WolverineDG
(22,298 posts)trof
(54,256 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)His real name is Prince Michael Jackson II.
trof
(54,256 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)He could have had just a symbol, or a number.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)and it's either a country or a flamboyant daughter of a zillionaire.
The boys are simply extensions of Michael: He never imagined they would become people some day.
Among all of the other struggles those kids have, like, no mother and a nutsy drugged dead father and an ever-changing roster of domestic servants/guards, they don't even know that they're supposed to be just a limb of their father.
I think they're ripe for a cult to snatch them up, especially for their money. The scientologists are probably trying to find a way into those kids. With all the celebrities in there, someone will probably make contact with the kids.
Michael was brilliant with music, and good with the music business legalities, but he really screwed up with these kids.
I also think that if Katherine couldn't prevent Michael from being totally dependent on drugs and doctors, she shouldn't have custody of the kids, either.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)protect, warm, support, nurture. Still, the poor kid is stuck with it, as well as this bunch of manic egos. Those poor kids never asked to be part of the Jackson circus.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)out of Gary would be fascinating.
Can you imagine how Joe would have fucked up that family even more if there had been little or no success? Absolutely horrifying.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)The kids would have been in school and then made their way into the world and left Joe behind. It would have substantially weakened his grasp over them. Everyone kept making the decision to remain in the family cult for the prospect of fame and fortune. If Michael hadn't been so talented, Joe might have just wandered off and left them all alone. Ultimately, it was Michael's talent that trapped them all in the sick system and fueled the greed and cruelty. And it still does.
Money corrupts.
eShirl
(18,494 posts)WolverineDG
(22,298 posts)putting his business partners in charge of the $ & his mom in charge of the kids. That's what the fight is over: the money. Just like Joe used his kids as a meal ticket, the Jacksons want to use the kids as theirs. Living off the kids sure beats working!
Note that since Michael died, the guardians of the children's estate have turned it around & are now bringing in more $ & paying down Michael's debts. That takes some doing, btw. And the second that happens, Katherine goes on "vacation," gets removed as guardian & Tito's kid get appointed in her place.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)It sounds like the judge made a good call giving the kids to TJ: He's already in the will so he's not part of the attempt to control Katherine and challenge the will.
I've also read that it's too late to contest because the statute of limintatins ( 3 years) has passed.
No word, yet on when or if Katherine will regain custody.
Good article:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-children.html
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)Randy and Jermaine Jackson are trying to get at Michael Jackson's money, by hatching a sinister plot involving Katherine Jackson ... so claim sources connected with the Michael Jackson Estate.
Randy, Jermaine, Janet, Tito and Rebbie Jackson all signed a letter, demanding that the Executors of the MJ Estate step down, claiming the executors are failing so badly, the stress caused Katherine to suffer a stroke.
Sources connected with the Estate are now lashing back, telling TMZ they believe Randy and Jermaine (they are not including the others) are strapped for cash and know when Katherine dies there is no way they can get their hands on a penny of MJ's fortune -- that's because all of the money goes to charity and in trust for Michael's 3 kids.
Our sources believe ... Randy and Jermaine are trying to make it appear that Katherine is infirm and may need a conservatorship. And the sources further believe Randy and Jermaine will try and get themselves appointed as her conservators, which would give them access to more than $70,000 a month.
So, if TMZ is right, this was a ridiculous attempt by all of the siblings to unlock the safe. They live in such a soap opera, they all thought this would work.
Well, the judge figured it all out, including the fact that Katherine can't hold off the rest of her kids, and skipped a generation and gave the kids to their cousin, Tito's son TJ. That's a smart move because TJ is already getting money from the estate and has little reason to be bribed by his aunts and uncles. He's grown up enough to know what loony tunes they are. Apparently, TJ's already attending school parent conferences and the kids' events, and they really like him. I've also read that Michael was closest to his brother Tito.
It sounds like the kids are in a far better place now, thanks to twitter! I hope they can get some calm and normalcy. They never asked to be put in this insane family. One thing is for sure: They'll always have enough money. The estate finally broke even and is now making a profit.
What a story! Palace intrigue! Michael is the closest thing we'll ever have to royalty.