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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 04:49 AM Mar 2022

As someone who watched Red Dawn as a teenager, I have some important tactical insight to share ...

Full disclosure: I checked it out from the library, and it's in my DVD player right now.

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As someone who watched Red Dawn as a teenager, I have some important tactical insight to share ... (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2022 OP
I've been watching a lot of WW II footage TrogL Mar 2022 #1
Let alone a Warthog ironflange Mar 2022 #11
Excellent OP left-of-center2012 Mar 2022 #2
I'm more confident in Poland than in Germany Shrek Mar 2022 #3
My confidence is in NATO to wnylib Mar 2022 #10
The original Red Dawn or the remake? Midnight Writer Mar 2022 #4
The original, of course. mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2022 #5
Blisteringly stupid movie. Aristus Mar 2022 #6
Was it ever watchable? csziggy Mar 2022 #7
I liked it for the tank battle. Aristus Mar 2022 #8
I guess it had some good points then csziggy Mar 2022 #9
It blew. It's notable all the other good movies that year. miyazaki Mar 2022 #12

TrogL

(32,822 posts)
1. I've been watching a lot of WW II footage
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 05:12 AM
Mar 2022

I took one look at that long snakey convoy and was thinking of the kind of damage one Mustang or Spitfire could do.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
2. Excellent OP
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 07:21 AM
Mar 2022

I keep seeing some posts and threads here about how Russia is going to invade the Baltics or Poland, and maybe bomb Germany.

Ukraine may lose but they are kicking Russia's butt.
Imagine what Poland and Germany could do.

Plus as some keep ignoring,
Poland and Germany are part of NATO.

As Joe Biden might say:
"Come on people !"

Shrek

(3,981 posts)
3. I'm more confident in Poland than in Germany
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 08:45 AM
Mar 2022

According to its chief the German army is "empty-handed":

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/german-army-chief-fed-up-with-neglect-countrys-military-2022-02-24/

The chief of the German army vented his frustration over what he sees as the long-running neglect of military readiness in his country in an unusual public rant a few hours after Russia invaded Ukraine, adding that the army was in bad shape.

Russian forces invaded Ukraine by land, air and sea on Thursday, confirming the worst fears of the West with the biggest attack by one state against another in Europe since World War Two. read more

"In my 41th year of peace-time service, I would not have thought that I would have to experience a war," Lieutenant General Alfons Mais said on LinkedIn on Thursday.

"And the Bundeswehr, the army which I have the honour to command, is standing there more or less empty-handed. The options we can offer the government in support of the alliance are extremely limited."

wnylib

(21,487 posts)
10. My confidence is in NATO to
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 01:43 PM
Mar 2022

retaliate "bigly" if Russia dared to invade any of those NATO nations. Troops and equipment have already been beefed up in the region as a deterrent.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
5. The original, of course.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 10:08 AM
Mar 2022

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Tue Aug 14, 2018: Pic Of The Moment: If They Made Red Dawn Today

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Red Dawn (1/9) Movie CLIP - Paratrooper Invasion (1984) HD
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In the middle of history class, Russian paratroopers land and attack the school, killing Mr. Teasdale (Frank McRae).

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Red Dawn (4/9) Movie CLIP - Guerilla Warfare (1984) HD
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The Wolverines employ the art of guerilla warfare, ambushing the enemy and quickly disappearing before reinforcements arrive.

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Set at an indeterminate point in the future, this drama with an overt anti-communist message begins as an ostensible war movie: Russian and Cuban forces have invaded the U.S. and are viciously eliminating the inhabitants of a small town, when a group of teens escapes and plans a counterattack. Jed (Patrick Swayze), Robert (C. Thomas Howell), and six of their friends watch in amazement as soldiers parachute into their town and start shooting. The teens grab a pickup truck, stock up on supplies at the local store, and head for the hills. Meanwhile, the men in the town -- after a minimal resistance -- are rounded up and held at a drive-in theater converted into a concentration camp. The sadistic Soviet military then make them watch acclaimed Russian director Sergei Eisenstein's 1938 classic Alexander Nevsky, as their punishing rehabilitation begins. Meanwhile, after minimal resistance from the adults, a Cuban, Bella (Ron O'Neal), is put in charge and is not certain how he can really defeat the teen army. The Soviets and Cubans have so far defeated the American Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force, but these teens are really something else. After a successful ambush, the teen guerrillas gear up for future forays, when they are suddenly betrayed by one of their number and by doubts about the morality of what they are doing. Red Dawn is noteworthy for being the first movie released with the PG-13 rating, created by the MPAA after public outcry over violent content in the PG-rated Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and Gremlins.

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Cast: Darren Dalton, C. Thomas Howell, Frank McRae, Charlie Sheen, Patrick Swayze
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Aristus

(66,387 posts)
6. Blisteringly stupid movie.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 11:56 AM
Mar 2022

One would think that it would have appealed to the fifteen year-old I was back then, especially since I had aspirations of serving in the Army (which I later did.)

But having to watch a brilliant actor like Harry Dean Stanton having to utter lines like "Avenge me! Aveeeeeeeeeeeeenge Meeeeeeeeeeee!" was just too much.

It's essentially unwatchable these days.

Aristus

(66,387 posts)
8. I liked it for the tank battle.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:13 PM
Mar 2022

This was in 1984, not long after the American M1 Abrams tank had gone into service. And during the Cold War, close-up inspection of Russian tanks was nearly impossible in the West. So I thought the mock-ups they used for the tank battle scene were pretty good.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
9. I guess it had some good points then
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 01:32 PM
Mar 2022

I'm not so much into the battle stuff and the interpersonal parts were so hokey it was unbearable. It was so-so when under the influence, though. Attack of the Killer Tomatoes was better.

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