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Beartracks

(12,801 posts)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 09:27 AM Mar 2022

Help! Stripped screws, but almost all the way in...

I've got several screws that, being power-drilled, ended up getting their heads gouged out, and yet they aaaalmost made it all the way in. SO... I'm curious as to how I might get them in the rest of the way, rather than needing to know how to get them out. Any suggestions?

These screws are holding up a handicap bar, so 1) it's essential they be snug, and 2) they don't need to look pretty, since the end cap will cover them up. If they ever DO need to come out, that will likely be a homeowner or two after me.

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Help! Stripped screws, but almost all the way in... (Original Post) Beartracks Mar 2022 OP
or, take a hacksaw to the part hanging out intrepidity Mar 2022 #1
With grab bars, you need all the screws in place and set strongly into the wall Chainfire Mar 2022 #9
As far as I know, you can't. Phoenix61 Mar 2022 #2
If they're Phillips head screws, OilemFirchen Mar 2022 #3
Take it out with vise grips - it's a safety bar. alittlelark Mar 2022 #4
+1 rampartc Mar 2022 #11
Ironically, I did do a pilot hole. Clearly not wide enough, however. :( Beartracks Mar 2022 #14
You need to get them out and start over. Chainfire Mar 2022 #5
Take it out and do it right. JohnnyRingo Mar 2022 #6
Best answer IA8IT Mar 2022 #8
Pilot hole for sure. If going into wood a small amount of hand soap Hotler Mar 2022 #13
I've used square-drive screws in the past and find I have no problems with them. It also abqtommy Mar 2022 #7
If you you dont have vise grips which may be too big to use Ferryboat Mar 2022 #10
best idea yet rampartc Mar 2022 #12
The term dyke or dike as applied to pliers has nothing to do with lesbians. Ocelot II Mar 2022 #17
If they are Phillip's head screws bluecollar2 Mar 2022 #15
Thanks! This sounds like a possibility. Beartracks Mar 2022 #16
Post #3 suggested a torx bit bluecollar2 Mar 2022 #18
I forgot about the Torx post. The screw heads are pretty stripped... Beartracks Mar 2022 #19
Bottom line bluecollar2 Mar 2022 #20
Get a bigger hammer. lastlib Mar 2022 #21
Get your three-pound sledgehammer jmowreader Mar 2022 #22
Had the exact same problem just a few days ago with the first screw. bluedigger Mar 2022 #23

Chainfire

(17,474 posts)
9. With grab bars, you need all the screws in place and set strongly into the wall
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 10:39 AM
Mar 2022

Anything else defeats the purpose.

Phoenix61

(16,994 posts)
2. As far as I know, you can't.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 09:31 AM
Mar 2022

There’s also the issue of the integrity of the screw being compromised depending on how big/deep of a hole there is in the head.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
3. If they're Phillips head screws,
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 09:31 AM
Mar 2022

I've had success tapping in a Torx head bit of the same size until it bites.

alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
4. Take it out with vise grips - it's a safety bar.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 09:39 AM
Mar 2022

Yeah, sux to redo work, but better safe than sorry. The new screw will be much easier to put in and Much Less likely to strip on the way.

Beartracks

(12,801 posts)
14. Ironically, I did do a pilot hole. Clearly not wide enough, however. :(
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:07 PM
Mar 2022

The actual screws got REALLY tight as they went in.

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Chainfire

(17,474 posts)
5. You need to get them out and start over.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 09:39 AM
Mar 2022

Remove them with vice grip pliers and buy a couple of new screws. When you replace them, use a new driver bit, lubricate the screw with soap, and use low speed and firm pressure on the screw.

JohnnyRingo

(18,619 posts)
6. Take it out and do it right.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 09:40 AM
Mar 2022

Using a pair of vice grips, clamp it onto the screw and back it out. Get a new screw and this time make sure the driver is perpendicular to the surface. A bigger pilot hole may need drilled if the screw is too tight to seat.

You'll be glad you did in the end.

Hotler

(11,396 posts)
13. Pilot hole for sure. If going into wood a small amount of hand soap
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 11:25 AM
Mar 2022

on the screw will help it thread.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
7. I've used square-drive screws in the past and find I have no problems with them. It also
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 10:01 AM
Mar 2022

helps to use a small bit to drill a pilot hole for the screw.

Ferryboat

(922 posts)
10. If you you dont have vise grips which may be too big to use
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 11:11 AM
Mar 2022

Get ahold of a dyke. They have a small head but with a wicked sharp edge for cutting or pinching.

rampartc

(5,389 posts)
12. best idea yet
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 11:24 AM
Mar 2022

but that is an insensitive word for our lesbian sisters. (the tool is a a wire cutter or diagonal edge pliers. )

Ocelot II

(115,615 posts)
17. The term dyke or dike as applied to pliers has nothing to do with lesbians.
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 04:35 PM
Mar 2022

It's just shorthand or a contraction for diagonal cutter, one of the names of the tool.

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
15. If they are Phillip's head screws
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:14 PM
Mar 2022

And they aren't completely stripped you might try dipping the screw driver or Apex tip in a little valve grinding compound and slowly turning the screw the last couple of turns.

You can get a cheap tube of compound at your local auto parts store. Stuff lasts forever and useful when you need to create friction.usually less than a couple of bucks...

If you end up removing and replacing use the compound and apply some soap to the threads before starting.

Good luck

Beartracks

(12,801 posts)
16. Thanks! This sounds like a possibility.
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 04:32 PM
Mar 2022

Definitely just a few turns away, and maybe if I lean into it with a screwdriver... I didn't this kind of compound exists.

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bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
18. Post #3 suggested a torx bit
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 04:57 PM
Mar 2022

Could work. The thing is to avoid damaging the existing head any further.

Give it a shot.

Personally I'd try going back and forth..."rocking" the screw. Chances are the screw will start to back out. If that's the case try to completely remove the screw using vise grips, dykes etc..

Let us know how it goes.

Good luck.

Beartracks

(12,801 posts)
19. I forgot about the Torx post. The screw heads are pretty stripped...
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 05:30 PM
Mar 2022

Some are like craters. I saw a suggestion somewhere about using a dremel to cut a new slight groove for a screwdriver to bite into, but I'm hesitant to remove more material from the heads. Maybe with a torx AND the compound, I could get them the rest of the way in....

Only one is sticking out far enough to maybe get a vise grip onto.

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bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
20. Bottom line
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 08:17 PM
Mar 2022

First do no further damage.

Apply the compound to your Phillip's bit and try to rock the screw out. If it doesn't work try the torx bit approach.

Focus on getting the screw to turn. The reverse/ backing out is more likely to be succesful.

The dremel is a possibility...cut a straight slot into the head and use a common straight slot screwdriver to try to turn the scree. That is another option but it requires removal of material from the existing screw...the last option.

jmowreader

(50,533 posts)
22. Get your three-pound sledgehammer
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 01:38 AM
Mar 2022

Put a Phillips screwdriver you don't like very much into the recess on the screw and give it one good sound whack with the sledgehammer. This will create a good recess for you to drive the screw in the rest of the way with.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
23. Had the exact same problem just a few days ago with the first screw.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 10:51 AM
Mar 2022

I backed it out with vice grips, threw all the supplied screws in the trash, and replaced them with good ones.

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