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What can I tell my daughter to expect from a very scary car accident yestrrday that miraculously only left her with bruises? She ended up upside down hanging, undid her seat belt and crawled out.
She is 29, lives 10 hours away, pretty mentally fragile. Accident happened yesterday and the mental processing is really getting to her.
I want to tell her she will be ok, she's lucky no serious injuries, and she will be stronger for this.
In truth, I fear PTSD.
multigraincracker
(32,658 posts)Just find a good one.
Best to talk about trauma and not keep it in.
cilla4progress
(24,724 posts)thank goddess. Also on anti-anxiety meds. I've seen a huge improvement in her outlook.
Honestly, with the mess himans have made of the world, what sensitive human - especially a young one - doesn't have debilitating anxiety?!
Thanks for the input.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)The seat belt saved my life. And it sound like it saved hers too.
I had tiny bruises all over my body - broken blood vessels. I felt like a bowl of Jello that had been put in a blender.
The car was totaled, and I didn't replace it for 8 months. She doesn't have to drive again until she is ready.
When I did drive, I avoided the spot where the accident happened. That wasn't too hard. It was actually a bad spot where a lot of accidents happen.
Dealing with an accident was an administrative nightmare. I had to get a lawyer, keep going back to doctors, etc. If you can advise her on that, its a big help. Lawyers see accidents as opportunity.
cilla4progress
(24,724 posts)it was a one car rollover on an icy road. Lots of accidents there yesterday due to conditions. She was driving a work van. Totalled.
I do think she won't want to drive there in the future.
How are you now?
milestogo
(16,829 posts)cilla4progress
(24,724 posts)No longterm physical or mental effects?
I feel like this is going to shape her..especially as she is in the middle of thinking about making a big life change (move, change in career trajectory).
Anon-C
(3,430 posts)Rest and process it. I would ask if there will be follow up for an MRI to see if there is any injury to the brain.
cilla4progress
(24,724 posts)concussion. Which was negative. I don't know how competent the docs were at the clinic in the little mountain ski town. But she had no loss of consciousness and only a bump on her head.
Made it through 1st night, so... Woke up terrified as she processes it. Terrible dreams....reality/scare sinking in.
Anon-C
(3,430 posts)...is my advice.
cilla4progress
(24,724 posts)just texted her to. Appreciate it.
Fla Dem
(23,637 posts)It was a traumatic experience, she does need someone to talk it through with her. She might also need a motherly hug, sounds like you could use a hug too based on your post yesterday.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10181640919
Can she get assistance or at least a referral from the non-profit she works with? It's for vulnerable youth, so would think they have some contacts with therapists.
At the very least try a video call with her. Just seeing each other might help.
All the best to you and your daughter.
cilla4progress
(24,724 posts)I can't comfortably leave my husband with his neck brace (I know...) but it's a possibility. I've looked at flights and we will discuss it later this morning.
We did have a video chat this morning.
Good ideas. Thank you!
gab13by13
(21,290 posts)The best thing to do sometimes is to listen and be there for her. It sounds like you are a caring father so you shouldn't worry about saying the wrong things, just be yourself.
Alice Kramden
(2,166 posts)Recovering from the crash, I bought a dulcimer (a stringed instrument that's very simple to play, kind of like an autoharp). I had a bad concussion and a dislocated elbow that was put back into place, but needed physical therapy. The concussion made it hard to read and gave me a constant headache for weeks. Playing the dulcimer was soothing, because you don't have to read music, you strum it on your lap, and it gave my head and eyes a rest while playing peaceful sounds. In addition, it kept my injured arm in gentle motion. Music really helped me through, and I'm not that musical - can't read music - I just fool around with it for fun.
cilla4progress
(24,724 posts)I'll give it, or something like it - a craft or art supplies? - some consideration!
Thank you!
Alice Kramden
(2,166 posts)like a tongue drum, handpan, or those chimes that you play like a xylophone - it can be very ethereal and comforting. Plus it's expressive.
cilla4progress
(24,724 posts)Will research.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)20 another friend and I got into a friend's new Camaro for what was supposed to be a 5 or 10 minute ride He was adjacent to shows his new car. So we left my car in the parking lot where he spotted us and without going into (longer) detail, less the 5 minutes later we went off the road at 70mph through a hairpin turn in a heavily wooded area with a steep downhill. After bouncing off and crashing through trees we came to rest at tge bottom of the hill. Nose first with the rearend up so that the car was at a 45 degree angle. I impacted he dash ( I think of it as eating the windshield and dashboard at 70 mph) and my head went through the windshield. My other friend was behind me and hut my seat back on impact making it worse. .I had to be extracted from the car. My upper right was badly broken and I had other injuries. I needed about 6 ir 7 hours of energency surgery to repairs and frankly to save my arm. A had a steel bar and screws peicing my shattered upper arm together Weeks later tiny diamonds of shattered windshield glass (the body rejects it) were still working their way out of my scalp. Recovering the use of my arm was a two year undertaking with a second surgery a year later and intensive daily rehab. The event significantly altered my life.
If would let your daughter know how lucky she was to survive the accident relative inscathed.. Despite my accidents negative impact on my life it was remarkable that I survived the crash or didn't end if paralyzed or even more severely injured. In fact if I ever start to doubt that there is a divine presence I think back to surving that crash. It is one of two or three incidents in my life where I could have died but survived
cilla4progress
(24,724 posts)what an amazing story! Very uplifting! How are you now?
My daughter AND my husband both had near life-altering injuries in the last 3 weeks and dodged real serious "bullets." Both are looking at significant recoveries. Your last sentence really speaks to me - even though we are pagan humanist agnostic atheists!!
Thank you!
😆
captain queeg
(10,154 posts)I was so rattled and it was night I had to burrow out through a wall of briars. Next day I realized I could have gone out the other side with no obstructions. Mostly just bruised up but had a cracked rib and that was very painful and took a long time to heal. Ive been in a couple other bad wrecks in my life. Dont feel any long term trauma except sometimes when pulling out into traffic or something I get a flash thru my brain of getting hit, like a loud crash for just an instant. Not every time but fairly often and have had it for years.
cilla4progress
(24,724 posts)Sorry that happened to you!
Thanks!
iscooterliberally
(2,860 posts)Every now and then I'll have pretty bad nightmares. My wife and I have a king size mattress and we put it on the floor. I have flipped out of bed from a dead sleep on several occasions. It gets better and easier to deal with as time passes on. I see that others have said to go to a therapist which I'm sure will help. I would also suggest getting plenty of exercise every day. Also if she has any type of positive outlets that would be good too. I like to play the guitar, but she could have other ways to deal with it. The thing is that stress needs a positive outlet. It could be working with dogs and cats or painting or some sort of arts and crafts. She should try to stay busy doing something that is fun. She should also give herself something to look forward to this year, like a nice vacation. You don't have to spend a lot of money to do something fun. I like camping or going to visit my brother who has a house on big lake. Anyway, that's how I like to deal with it. In my crash I was basically body-slammed to the pavement at about 40 mph. I spent a week in the hospital and am now an old meat-sack of broken bones. Exercise helps with the mental and physical pain. Keep moving and putting good things in front of you and things will get better. Good luck!
cilla4progress
(24,724 posts)We are kindred spirits!
She already went for a short walk. Our family is big on the healing power of nature. And we collaborated on an order of art supplies for her..She likes to draw.
And because of your post, I've texted family in DC. I am IN LOVE with the Smithsonian and DYING to go to their museums of African-American and Native American history! I don't know if people generally know that admission is FREE - our tax dollars at work!
Family says bring it on! So, we will work on planning that!
Thanks!
PS Oh, and my husband (same one in last month's ski wreck) also wrecked his motorcycle in 2019! A deer jumped into his front wheel. He broke a bunch of ribs and lacerated his spleen. Spent a night in ICU. JEEZ!!
iscooterliberally
(2,860 posts)I have only ever driven by DC on my way to NY or Boston. We live in south Florida so it's such a long trip by car that we never stopped in DC. We lived in Boston for a couple years and have family in NY and NJ. I hope your daughter has a quick and healthy recovery! It sounds like she's in very good hands!
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)People think of these modalities only for kids, but that is not true at all. They reach dynamics there are no words for, or those that are difficult to express in words. (Process based, so one does not need to be an artist.)
So sorry to hear of her accident, but really glad she is going to be ok!
cilla4progress
(24,724 posts)You are always so supportive here!
Adult coloring book(!) on Mandalas* on the way to her with pencils.
*Mandala Daydream: Moonlight Edition: A Coloring Book and a Color Journey Into Your Inner Mind
❤
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Ty for your kind words.
Just paper & crayons, chalk, oil pastels & even finger paints are amazingly cathartic. Let the materials choose her & just freely create.
But usually best to do with therapist as emotions can surface that she might need help and guidance to process.
2 great books by Pat B. Allen, Art Therapist & professor at The School of the Art Institute of Chicago:
Art is a Way of Knowing
Art is a Spuritual Path.
Yhe 1st is what they teach in their master of art therapy program. Amazing!
Some 15 yrs ago they were teaching the process to progressive corp. boards as a way of intuitive decision making.
cilla4progress
(24,724 posts)I hope the children of Ukraine have access to these materials ...
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Very interesting that for trauma that occurs in pre-verbal stages, art is the only real way to process the events, because the memories are not stored verbally.
cilla4progress
(24,724 posts)I've heard that art therapy can be very helpful to children.
My heart breaks for the trauma in Ukraine and all war-torn countries. Children should not be subject to such violence!
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Art therapy was originally devised to treat not only kids, but military vets who had difficulty discussing their issues.
There could be non-discursive aspects to her accident which might be more readily and thoroughly resolved through the process-based arts.
Movement theraoy might also be helpful for her.
Marthe48
(16,932 posts)My family has endured 3 fatal accidents in different decades. I am tough, but they left marks.
I see your daughter has a therapist. For anxiety? So the therapist can probably help her find ways to cope. It is soon after the wreck, so she should keep an eye on her health. Stay busy. Think it out. Talk it out. It'll be vivid for awhile. I know with other events, that if I keep it to myself, it gets worse, and I replay mental clips over and over, but if I talk to someone about it, that event is finally put to rest.
Once again, you have gotten a lot of great advice. It'll take time, but she'll be able to find a way to manage this event in her life and move on from it.
cilla4progress
(24,724 posts)We have a very open relationship and are able to talk. She is our only child ...
Yes, her therapist is for anxiety. Our daughter felt like she was giving up when she got on the meds, but I see what a wonderful help they are to her!
I feel like this incident is going to be transformational for her in some way. She is seeking her life path right now. I just hope it is somehow clarifying, if not actually beneficial, and doesn't frighten or cause her to withdraw from life. She was quite bold, I think, to move to Montana after college without know anyone there. So there's a strength within, but she can also demonstrate a side that folds at the least perceived personal failing or discord.
I'm so sorry for your loss! Tragic. I'm tough, too. But what you have been through is of a different order!