How about a ...Positive Miracle In History..TWA Flight 843.- July 30, 1992 - TWA Flight 843

[Stuart G]

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TWA Flight 843 was a scheduled Trans World Airlines passenger flight that crashed after an aborted takeoff from John F. Kennedy International Airport to San Francisco International Airport in July 1992. Despite an intense fire after the crash, the crew was able to evacuate all 280 passengers from the aircraft. Wikipedia
Number of deaths: 0
Survivors: 292 (all)

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https://www.twaflight843.com/

[Ocelot II]

1. There are no miracles; there is only physics and the work of people.

The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) attributed the crash to pilot error and TWA training and maintenance issues. According to the report, the take-off was improperly aborted by the first officer shortly after liftoff, due to the erroneous activation of the stick shaker stall warning device, when in fact the aircraft was performing normally and could have taken off safely. The extremely hard landing caused damage to the right wing, spilling fuel that was then ingested into the engines and started the fire. The NTSB praised captain Kinkead for bringing the aircraft to a safe stop, the rest of the crew (including the off-duty flight attendants) for safely evacuating the aircraft, and the airport rescue and fire fighting services for responding in a timely and adequate manner. At the same time however, the NTSB also criticized the flight crew for deciding to abort the takeoff after V1 and their response to the stick-shaker activation, both of which were inappropriate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_843

The fact that everyone survived was attributable to the captain's stopping the airplane quickly; that there were a number of off-duty flight attendants on board who helped with the evacuation; and the prompt arrival of ARFF personnel who were able to substantially extinguish the fire within minutes. It was an accident that never should have happened in the first place. The use of the term "miracle" suggests that something supernatural was involved, and it wasn't. It was just a bunch of people doing their jobs and responding appropriately to an emergency.

[Stuart G]

2. To me (only me) This is a miracle....Each to his/her opinion. Lots of other crashes killed many.

[Ocelot II]

3. If this is a miracle, why did God (or whoever is in charge) spare *these* passengers

but allowed so many others to die in accidents? I used to teach this stuff - aircraft emergency procedures and accident investigation. I know a lot about it. Blowing off passengers' surviving an accident like this as a "miracle" is, to me, disrespectful of the people who work hard to prevent accidents and those who respond to accidents when they do occur - sometimes at the risk of their own lives. Not to mention the people who didn't get a "miracle."

[Stuart G]

4. I totally respect your work history. I also respect people who work to prevent such accidents.

And responders too. I am entitled to my opinion. ...It is that simple.

( Even if you think this is a bad opinion based on.... whatever)

Thank You for your response

Stuart

[localroger]

5. I think the general idea is that YOU are the miracle.

It's so easy to get sidetracked by these christofascists that we forget that for most Christians, God does not involve itself in such daily things nowadays, regardless of what the Bible says. The sentiment is that the rescuers were able to get there in time, do their job, and get out without the plane exploding or whatever else might have happened.

I am an atheist and I can sympathize with that reaction. Yay for everybody, the victims lived.