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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsWisconsin bans square bales of hay.
The Wisconsin Department of Agriculture today is banning all square bales of hay, forcing farmers to only use the newer round bales.
Farmers were quick to complain that their cows would no longer have their 3 square meals a day, where as the WDOA insisted that from this day forward all cows deserved a well-rounded diet.
Kaleva
(36,360 posts)You needed a crew to handle the square bales
G2theD
(593 posts)moniss
(4,274 posts)but ever since the '70's there have been machines that make square bales a one man operation if desired.
Kaleva
(36,360 posts)Assuming one is using a kicker baler.
If you were using a drop baler, then the guy could come back with a machine that can pick the bales off the field and stacks them neatly on a towed trailer. When the trailer is full, the guy brings the load to where ever needed and uses a lift to remove the bales from the trailer and stacks them. I don't know if that's the case and I'm guessing.
moniss
(4,274 posts)pictures are all over the intertubes. Bale pickup/stacking equipment has been around for decades now. I don't know how many still use a kick baler and plain wagon. There are more efficient, less labor intensive means to handle square bales. Back in the '60's my uncle used to tow 2 empty wagons out to the hay field and run them full with his kick baler. Then he would tow them back and bring 2 more empty wagons and then fill those. It depended on how much hay was cut and in the right dryness for baling. You don't want it too green if you are putting it into a haymow in a barn. Fire hazard and it can mold real bad. About an hour and a half before afternoon milking he would be back at the barn and he would pull up a wagon load of hay to the elevator and set each bale on the elevator. It was connected to a long conveyor track in the haymow and there was a movable diverter on the track that made the bales fall off the track to the haymow below the conveyor. If he felt like it he might even go up into the mow and straighten out the bales into a nice stacked condition. He would do a wagon before milking and one after. Then the next morning after morning milking he would do one more. Then he would go have breakfast. He would finish off the last wagon after that if he had one. Remember that he was the one cutting the hay also so he might go cut hay, if the weather forecast looked good, and then bale it about 48 hours later. So he spaced his labor accordingly. He had a big pull-through building also that he could just pull loaded wagons into if it looked like rain or if he wasn't in a hurry to unload. The man worked like nobody I ever saw. He was 6 feet and one inch tall and weighed just under 300 pounds. He was solid muscle and his hands and arms were massive. Here's a video of some various round and square bale handling equipment in action. Also a video of a small bale picker/stacker which was new in the early '70's.
Kaleva
(36,360 posts)He had a kicker baker and behind that he'd tow a trailer that held about a 100 bales. He had 3 hay trailers. We only used all 3 trailers when baking at the hay fields a couple of miles away because he'd have a full load before I got back to him with an empty trailer.
It took a couple of weeks to make the make all the hay and we usually were done by the 4th of July.
Your uncle's setup was the same as my Dad's except in handling. My Dad would be out in the field baking, I'd be bring the loads in uding the pickup and unloading while my younger brothers would be in the lift stacking the bales as they dropped.
I can recall when my grandfather farmed and he had loose hay. The rails at the top of the hay loft used for that are still there. Now that was labor intensive as you needed people up in the loft to operate the trip rope and to pitch fork the loose hay to the sides
moniss
(4,274 posts)brings back memories of my family farm where Great Grandpa put it up with the track etc. Still might be there to this day. Even though they had purchased tractors they still kept the horse team as "back up" and I even remember one was called Buttercup. I really like watching a good team work. The farm in later years still had some of that old horse-drawn equipment laying in the weeds. Now in the Midwest we prize that stuff for "yard" art.
msongs
(67,462 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)Tetrachloride
(7,877 posts)but this
https://html.duckduckgo.com/html/?q=wisconsin%20department%20of%20agriculture
real abbreviation is different
Wisconsin cows care about a good milking machine and ground corn.
Real farms have green grass pastures. most places are factories
Kaleva
(36,360 posts)Think of the size the pastures would have to be in order to handle such a number. Then think of the time spent herding up all those cows twice a day brining them into the milking parlor.
As a kid, I'd often go looking for my Dad's 20 or so cows that were somewhere out in the pastures before dawn using a flashlight. When I found the cows, I'd roust them up and herd them to the barn for milking.
gab13by13
(21,439 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)in 1966 and had the advantage of one farmer being able to push one around with a tractor instead of dealing with the square ones, which needed a (usually pissed off) crew.
They also resist rain better and can be made heavier without hassle.
But, some smaller operators still have the square bales.
IjustDontlikeRepugs
(639 posts)Me and 2 of my friends would haul about 30,000 square bales of hay each summer. (We worked for a contractor). We were paid 25 cents per bale to get it from the field to the barn. Depending on that distance, we could each make $10 to $15 per hour which was good back then. I loved the job.
csziggy
(34,139 posts)Or more accurately, rectangular. That allows portioning a few flakes of hay (rectangular bales are packed sections of the time making "flakes" per horse for stalled horses.
Plus, round bales allow one dominant horse to claim all of a bale and horses waste far too much of it. When I tried feeding round bales, I had to get at least two bales for three horses. The top mare would claim one and the other two would share. If I had four or five per pasture, I had to get three round bales. Then they would waste 50% of the hay by pulling it out of the middle and spreading it around.
I even had one mare foal on the scattered hay from a round bale!
Now the people that run my farm carry flakes of hay and put them in as many different piles as there are horses in the pasture. Fortunately none of my mares are as dominant and share better - when I had a very dominant mare, she'd try to claim two or more piles so I had to put out at least one pile more than there were horses. and spread them very far apart.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)G2theD
(593 posts)45 years ago I would have agreed with a ban. I hated small square bales when I had to help do them on the family farm.
G2theD
(593 posts)Its would have really stunted my drug abuse.
a kennedy
(29,723 posts)DFW
(54,448 posts)And you know there won't be too many Republicans there, because they can't spell trapezoidal (or even tell you what a trapezoid is).
eppur_se_muova
(36,305 posts)We tamper with Nature at our own peril.
GumboYaYa
(5,954 posts)One regular activity was to take a ride on the fire boat. The captain always told that joke. It is one of my favorites. Thanks for posting, it reminds me of when my now adult children were little kids.
Paladin
(28,277 posts)Why wouldn't square hay elimination sound plausible, at first glance?
G2theD
(593 posts)Which means it is believable in some sense. I mean, really, weve all seen weirder things out of Republican state legislatures.
Paladin
(28,277 posts)Just yesterday, trump was supporting "Eric" in a state with multiple "Erics" on the ballot. No last names from trump, no clue as to which fucking "Eric" our drooling idiot ex-president was behind. Why wouldn't square hay elimination look for-real, without further inquiry?
G2theD
(593 posts)What a maroon.
Paladin
(28,277 posts)AllaN01Bear
(18,532 posts)Baggies
(503 posts)Look at those bunch of cows.
No, herd.
Heard of what?
Herd of cows.
Of course Ive heard of cows.
No! A cow herd.
What do I care what a cow heard? I have no secrets from a cow.
My only cow joke. Ill stop now.