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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsAre you an "everything happens for a reason" or a "sh!t happens"person?
Just curious.
spooky3
(34,460 posts)Harker
(14,024 posts)All the time.
Of course, there are clear reasons for some shit happening.
Mister Ed
(5,940 posts)...and the reason is "just because."
MLAA
(17,298 posts)hlthe2b
(102,297 posts)multigraincracker
(32,690 posts)I feel like the luckiest man in the world. Half of it good luck and the other half bad luck.
and you?
LakeArenal
(28,821 posts)Ocelot II
(115,740 posts)LakeArenal
(28,821 posts)pandr32
(11,588 posts)sanatanadharma
(3,707 posts)Understanding the 'how-it-came-to-be' does not negate having an "Oh, shit!" emotional response to 'what-it-is'.
Reasons there are. Reasons unknown there be. To whom and when the 'shit happens' is not ours to foresee.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)When I was going through a particularly difficult part of my life I talked with an 80+ year old neighbor and asked what he had learned during his eight decades. "Things change," he said. I clung to those two words for the next two years as things slowly improved. Eventually things did change. Shit does happen, but also good things.
Bill Nye, the science guy, has weighed in on the "things happen for a reason" argument:
LakeArenal
(28,821 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)saying "everything" happens for a reason kind of presupposes some kind of a master plan.
Too many plans I've seen are human generated and have evil motives.
MOMFUDSKI
(5,558 posts)it is how one handles the shit that matters. My husband likes to say, "You make your own luck".
zanana1
(6,122 posts)There's no rhyme or reason.
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)you can't go somewhere you wanted to, maybe your stuck at home but are right where you're meant to be.
frogmarch
(12,154 posts)I believe in cause and effect. Cause is the reason shit happens.
Trailrider1951
(3,414 posts)usually at the most inopportune time.
Different Drummer
(7,621 posts)Sometimes, a lot of shit happens.
Marthe48
(16,975 posts)If we plan things out, our plans either work or they don't.
If we don't make plans, we still accept the outcome, but don't feel like we invested effort in the results.
I have the idea that God wants me to win the lottery, but He wants me to pick the numbers
wnylib
(21,497 posts)It is not a coincidence that J6 happened. It was planned and fomented, with several people in charge of various phases of it.
But there are random coincidences in life, too. Some are good; some are not. What makes them good or not good is subjective.
Just because there are causes and effects to events does not mean there is a specific planned purpose behind them. We assign meaning to them.
elleng
(130,974 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,204 posts)sarge43
(28,941 posts)Usually at the worst possible time.
3catwoman3
(24,007 posts)...for the wide assortment of shitty experiences humans are subject to:
-the death of a child for any reason - illness/accident/murder
-children being orphaned
-enduring a slow, miserable decline from a fatal illness or watching that happen to someone you love
-having your home destroyed by natural disaster
-rape/sexual trafficking/abduction
-etc, etc, etc
If occurrences such as those above were part of some grand master plan, then the planner is a cruel, sadistic SOB.
In 1978, when I was 26, my 23 yr old brother died in a winter scuba diving adventure gone wrong. A friend of mine said, "God must have wanted your brother with him really bad." I suppose she intended that to be some sort of comforting thought.
It was not.