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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsWhy are some guys jocks and some not. What makes the difference?
Why do some boys and men seem to have such natural interest in all things athletic, and are good at them, and then there are men like me, I was never coordinated, never fast, never graceful. Do you just need to have a natural aptitude? Can you learn to do athletic things and enjoy them? Is a matter of how you were raised from a young age, you were pushed you into it as a young boy? When I was a kid, if someone said let's play baseball, I said, no I've got a book. That was me.
And most of all, what is it about the competitive thing that makes some guys love sports like football or hockey or baseball to the point they seem obsessed? If I saw a bunch of guys running at me trying to take me down and knock the crap out of me over a football I don't think I'd do it more than once. I'm just not competitive that way.
I was never a jock. Hated it in school, in fact. I've had a few times in my life when I got into solitary forms of exercise for a while, to lose weight or just to gain endurance, just walking, biking, once I briefly, oh so briefly, entertained the fantasy I would become a runner until I found out how much it hurts. I never stuck with any of it long term, I had a couple of years I walked regularly back in the 80s or maybe the 90s. I had one incredible spring/summer of biking, said I was going to get into that, bought myself a really nice Cannondale, and went into like a madman. I spent all of my free time biking. My crowning achievement was taking a whole day long trip of around 100 miles round trip. I left at 4:30 in the morning and didn't make it back until after sunset, so like 9:00 at night. It was kind of rough getting back, but I did it. Thank god there were good paths/trails/roads where I went. And then November came, it got dark, it got cold, it got icy, biking got dangerous, and the Cannondale got hung in the garage. It's been there like 21 years and 9 months on the same hook now, never touched again -- great way to spend $700-$800 bucks, huh?
But I just walked 8.6 miles, and I really do feel good. Tired but good. And I feel kind of pumped up, psyched.
Is that what it all boils down to, endorphins?
WooWooWoo
(454 posts)plus, not to go all PC police - but girls can be jocks too.
Denninmi
(6,581 posts)Ladies feel free to join in. This is no doubt a universal human experience, equal opportunity.
I was just kind of framing the question in terms of my life experience. I never fit in "with the guys" when it came to sports. Because I really sucked at it, for one thing.
WooWooWoo
(454 posts)but i was accepted by the jocks in school because I tried.
Kinda the same thing that's happened to me when I joined the army. I suck at running (which is like, a *major* huge deal) but I don't quit and even though I run with all the grace and agility of a cinder block, I still keep plugging away and that earns respect.
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snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)As for that bike hanging on a hook. Sounds like you got a summer's use out of it. I'd look at that bike like some would view some photos of a vacation. I think you've mentioned you don't take vacations in previous posts. Well, 7-8 hundred on a vacation is very reasonable...no regrets on spending that! The best part of your choice to buy the bike is that it's still there...may need a tune-up but just sayin'......wow...I still can't imagine walking 8.6 miles!
Denninmi
(6,581 posts)I'm actually a little dubious about the 8.6. I bought this New Balance "Viva" meter yesterday to measure distance, heart rate, calories, etc. And I think its full of crap. I am going to sit down and mapquest my route and check it. I'm thinking more like maybe 6 1/2 miles. But whatever the distance, it was still pretty epic.
And things are actually REALLY peaceful and nice at 4:30 in the morning in Suburbia. I don't think I saw even a car on the road for the first hour I was out there.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)I got fed up with the jocks at work trying to Monday morning quarterback in the bathroom at the sink. So I started replying in ways that shut them up:
Jock: So, did you see (quarterback so-and-so) do (whatever) yesterday?
Me: No, did he score a basket?
Denninmi
(6,581 posts)I hated going to the barber shop so much I quit and learned to cut my own hair, which I'm actually damned good it. Nope, sorry, I never knew how Chris Chelios got the hat trick in that Red Wings game or whatever, so I just felt awkward.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)There probably are a lot of reasons for that, from the personal to the families and other social support systems.
I remember the jocks and the brains in school--although many of the brains I knew also were very capable in athletics.
I certainly wasn't a jock, but I was outgoing and sociable so I had friendships that cut across all of the cliques in school.
In HS I was enrolled in gymnastics, but that was only to give me a class to cut to work on the HS newspaper I edited. Still, that experience impressed me with all of the hard work and effort my fellow students were putting in to excel in athletics.
I loved watching the Olympics this year, and especially the gymnastics. I was rooting for both foreign and U.S athletes, but the U.S. Women's gymnastics team was really the highlight for me. They were AMAZING!
Endorphins aren't the answer, but more power to you for your walking.
My little brother loved biking, but ill health late in life kept him from doing that--until he had some medical procedures done that allowed him to go back to doing his half-centuries and centuries.
Not long after he began bicycling again, he dropped dead on a ride. But he was doing what he loved doing.
8.6 is good, and good for you.
Javaman
(62,533 posts)While I was captain of our track team, I also won our schools art award.
lastlib
(23,272 posts)...and I play a mean game of chess. Otherwise, I have no athletic skill or desire to possess same. I'm totally a left-brain person, purely intellectual interests. Jock to me are the antithesis of this, and I tune them out.
TrogL
(32,822 posts)What sport to you propose I take up?
The coach was a sociopath and looked the other way to bullying.
Mopar151
(9,992 posts)Not to mention your genetic tendencies in regard to aerobic development.....
I'm a lifelong motorhead myself, techie, and maybe a bit of an Aspie. In my particular experience, team sports and bullying are usually closely linked - the rare coach that breaks that link is usually a big winner, too.
My friend claims that "Racers who hate each other get along better than 'most all jocks. There's guys I know only by car numbers that I'd give a kidney to!"
I can tell you that a lot of my pals in our odd little corner of motorsport are lifelong bookworms, FWIW.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)until after I'd been married for 6 years.
I started playing football when I was 12 and played through high school. I still love to watch football (obviously given my avatar) and I love to play golf but I totally suck at golf. When I was in Jr High and in the Irving Boys Football Association (little league for football) I got to play a lot but when I got to high school everyone got their growth spurts and I seemed to have misplaced mine. I made the team but I didn't get to play. I was fast and didn't get winded but just too small to keep out there very long.
But I never thought of myself as a jock. I was also in Jr High choir for two years and took art classes whenever they were available. I made the honor society a few times if that's worth much - it was played up at the time but i think they just wanted to sell pins.
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