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LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 10:54 AM Aug 2012

Old movies that couldn't be remade today because of *taboo* subject matter

I started a thread about Dirty Dancing, which was released 25 years ago today.

I keep reading rumors about a remake of the movie but they could never redo the original. Part of the storyline revolves around an unwanted pregnancy and trying to get the girl an abortion, which at the time was illegal.

You remove that part of the storyline the rest of the movie doesn't make sense. Johnny (Patrick Swazye) was seen as the low-life dance instructor that wasn't good enough for any of Dr. Houseman's daughter. The Ayn Rand, Harvard-attending, Paul Ryan-wannabe waiter was seen as the perfect catch for any girl. In the end Johnny was the good guy and the waiter turned out to be a real douchebag.

It's odd that during the Reagan administration somehow a movie that had an abortion as part of the storyline was a sleeper hit of the summer and a favorite with young girls & adults. But the way politics are today, they could never remake a movie like that unless they took out that major plotline. And then it would just be a schlocky movie with some dancing in it instead of a movie about the social injustices out there.

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Old movies that couldn't be remade today because of *taboo* subject matter (Original Post) LynneSin Aug 2012 OP
Heathers. ohiosmith Aug 2012 #1
What a great movie - and great choice for the thread. Bertha Venation Aug 2012 #6
Thank you Bertha. ohiosmith Aug 2012 #14
"To Kill a Mockingbird" HopeHoops Aug 2012 #2
Heck, not only can this movie not be remade, but... sadbear Aug 2012 #3
Don't know about SotS, but a lot of historical cartoons hifiguy Aug 2012 #5
This is about the Censored Eleven from Merry Melodies/Looney Tunes LynneSin Aug 2012 #7
Somewhere I have a VHS tape of those very cartoons. hifiguy Aug 2012 #9
Lolita. hifiguy Aug 2012 #4
I saw this again recently. James Mason and Shelley Winters were wonderful. Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #31
Jeremy Irons and Dominique Swain Blue_Tires Aug 2012 #40
Blazing Saddles n/t deutsey Aug 2012 #8
+1 nt Broken_Hero Aug 2012 #20
My fist thought...... AnneD Aug 2012 #37
Maybe Blue Denim (1959)? raccoon Aug 2012 #10
GWTW, unless it had vampires. nolabear Aug 2012 #11
You could have Sherman's army as an army of vampires. nt raccoon Aug 2012 #12
Wouldn't it be more realistic to portray plantation owners as vampires csziggy Aug 2012 #13
Take that idea and run with it! It does sound like P&P&Z. nt raccoon Aug 2012 #16
I may suggest it to a writer friend of mine csziggy Aug 2012 #32
Wait a minute...I'm a writer. Don't I even get first right of refusal? nolabear Aug 2012 #34
Go for it - I make no claim on the idea or the title suggestion csziggy Aug 2012 #42
NICE. Have your people call my people! nolabear Aug 2012 #33
I would read the shit out of that XemaSab Aug 2012 #35
Pinocchio Xyzse Aug 2012 #15
The Birth of a Nation (1915 Silent Film) yellowcanine Aug 2012 #17
Isn't the GOP trying to do a Live reenactment of it right now? LynneSin Aug 2012 #18
Chinatown murielm99 Aug 2012 #19
Disney's 'Song of the South'. I saw it when I was 6 or 7. trof Aug 2012 #21
Looks like you can watch the entire movie on youtube. trof Aug 2012 #22
Wow Hattie McDaniels is in that movie LynneSin Aug 2012 #25
Wow... I've never seen Song of the South, but wanted to... hlthe2b Aug 2012 #27
Plus the fact that Baby was under-age & Johnny was an adult WolverineDG Aug 2012 #23
Rambo 3 Enrique Aug 2012 #24
Oh, I don't know about that... CiderHouse Rules was made in 1999-- entire plot was about abortion hlthe2b Aug 2012 #26
But remember in the book Homer rejected doing abortions LynneSin Aug 2012 #29
The original "The Muppet Movie" arcane1 Aug 2012 #28
"Peyton Place" Paladin Aug 2012 #30
If they made that today they wouldhave the woman keep the child LynneSin Aug 2012 #38
Over The Edge (1979) Tabasco_Dave Aug 2012 #36
I saw that as a kid in the 80s and loved it... Blue_Tires Aug 2012 #41
This one came to mind "Gentleman's Agreement" YankeyMCC Aug 2012 #39
Back in the 60s they did a film called "Black Like Me" LynneSin Aug 2012 #44
"The North Star" BOG PERSON Aug 2012 #43

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
3. Heck, not only can this movie not be remade, but...
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:57 AM
Aug 2012

you can't even see it today: Disney's Song of the South.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
5. Don't know about SotS, but a lot of historical cartoons
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:49 PM
Aug 2012

with similar content - and some even more egregious - can be seen on YouTube.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
7. This is about the Censored Eleven from Merry Melodies/Looney Tunes
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:40 PM
Aug 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censored_Eleven#Censored_Eleven_list

I've only ever seen 'All this and Rabbit Stew' and what's interesting it's basically a Bugs Bunny vs. Elmer Fudd except Elmer Fudd is now an African American in post civil war times. He's even drawn like Elmer Fudd and many of the things he does in the cartoon Elmer Fudd has done in other Bugs Bunny Cartoons. But it still just comes across racist the way they voiced the character.
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
9. Somewhere I have a VHS tape of those very cartoons.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:14 PM
Aug 2012

An animation freak who was a friend of a friend was selling them years ago at local comic shops.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
4. Lolita.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:48 PM
Aug 2012

There are people right here at DU who would have a shitfit and fall in it if it were remade, Nabokov or no.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
31. I saw this again recently. James Mason and Shelley Winters were wonderful.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 10:40 PM
Aug 2012

Good movie. It was remade in 1997, as a foreign film, I think. I didn't see that version.

James Mason in the older version....that was one of his best performances, IMO.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
37. My fist thought......
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 03:05 AM
Aug 2012

If you are going to walkup to the bell, you may as well ring it. He almost didn't get it by the censors at the time.

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
11. GWTW, unless it had vampires.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:49 PM
Aug 2012

Come to think of it, Russell Edgington would add a lot to a cotillion.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
13. Wouldn't it be more realistic to portray plantation owners as vampires
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:11 PM
Aug 2012

Using the slaves to feed their bloodlust? The entire Union Army would be armed with wooden stakes and silver bullets. Rhett Butler is still the opportunistic profiteer who gets drawn into the Southern cause by a woman he lusts after, but with the added quirk that she has turned him into a vampire, too.

This could be more fun than "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies"!

Call it "Gone with the Dawn" since the Confederates can only fight at night.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
32. I may suggest it to a writer friend of mine
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:36 PM
Aug 2012

She already is published in the vampire genre. I really have no interest or talent to produce a work based on the idea.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
42. Go for it - I make no claim on the idea or the title suggestion
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 10:55 AM
Aug 2012

My friend usually has more ideas than she can use. I mostly act as one of her 'expert' consultants, answering questions about horses. If it comes to mind the next time I talk to her I might mention this idea to her, but by then it may have slipped my mind.

trof

(54,256 posts)
21. Disney's 'Song of the South'. I saw it when I was 6 or 7.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:10 PM
Aug 2012

I thought it was delightful, and can still sing 'Zippity Doo Dah', which won the Academy Award as best song of 1947. It has been perceived as racist by some (including the NAACP), although I don't agree.
Uncle Remus was a loveable and very moral character.
However, you can't find it on tape or DVD.

From wiki:
The setting of the film is the deep South of the Reconstruction era. Harris' original Uncle Remus stories were all set after the American Civil War and the abolition of slavery (Harris himself, born in 1845, was a racial reconciliation activist writer and journalist of the Reconstruction era). The film makes several indirect references to the Reconstruction era: clothing is in the newer late-Victorian style; Uncle Remus is free to leave the plantation at will; black field hands are sharecroppers, etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_the_South

WolverineDG

(22,298 posts)
23. Plus the fact that Baby was under-age & Johnny was an adult
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:22 PM
Aug 2012

The screaming would never stop if that movie was made today.

hlthe2b

(102,297 posts)
26. Oh, I don't know about that... CiderHouse Rules was made in 1999-- entire plot was about abortion
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 09:37 PM
Aug 2012

and the character of the abortionist Doctor, though flawed, was somewhat of a hero figure in the movie...

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
29. But remember in the book Homer rejected doing abortions
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 09:50 PM
Aug 2012

I think in the end he did one because of incest but that was one of the reasons he left the orphanage.

Paladin

(28,265 posts)
30. "Peyton Place"
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 10:20 PM
Aug 2012

This is where we're at: A 1950's soap opera movie depicts a doctor's administration of an abortion, due to a drunken stepfather's rape---no way in hell would a modern-day studio allow it. If you're not scared by how far this country's slipped, you're not paying attention......

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
38. If they made that today they wouldhave the woman keep the child
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 09:40 AM
Aug 2012

and show how wonderful it is to raise the child your birthed because of a drunken rape by your stepfather.

seriously!

Tabasco_Dave

(1,259 posts)
36. Over The Edge (1979)
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 12:58 AM
Aug 2012

Theaters refused to show this movie because of violence concerns, you had to catch it on cable if you where lucky to have it. I doubt they would make it today.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
41. I saw that as a kid in the 80s and loved it...
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 10:53 AM
Aug 2012

I remembered wondering why the kids in the 70s had so ass-kicking much fun while my time in the late 80s/early 90s was mired in suck...

YankeyMCC

(8,401 posts)
39. This one came to mind "Gentleman's Agreement"
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 10:28 AM
Aug 2012

but I'm not so sure actually, certainly things have changed (I hope!) but maybe not so much that something like this film could not still be made relevant.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
44. Back in the 60s they did a film called "Black Like Me"
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 12:21 PM
Aug 2012

Same thing except this was about the story of a white man who made himself black and traveled throughout the south during the 60s.

BOG PERSON

(2,916 posts)
43. "The North Star"
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 11:10 AM
Aug 2012

1943 movie about Soviet heroism against the Nazis (unfairly panned by modern day Americans as ww2 propaganda)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0036217/

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