Here's one for ya. NEW car. Land Rover. What do you figure? 75K?

[3Hotdogs]

So I'm in a parking lot and this woman asks me if I can show her how to turn on the heater. It's 30 degrees out. She just ought it and the temporary license is on the back of the car. she can't figure how to get heat into the car.

"Sure, I can do that."

I spent about 10 minutes, pushing every button and combination of buttons and dials on the dashboard. Fuck if I could get any heat out of the vents.

Maybe it was a computer malfunction.

[Think. Again.]

1. Pricing has nothing to do with...

...cost of production, or quality of the product, anymore.

Everything is priced strictly on "what the market will bear", even necessities such as basic food, shelter, and medical care.

It's just one of the reasons why capitalism is the wrong road for us to be traveling.

[MOMFUDSKI]

2. Lol. Been there!

Rented a Ford something last summer in Milwaukee for 15 days. At the airport. There is a line of cars to pick from with keys inside. No employee anywhere. Chose the Ford because it had electric passenger seat. We can’t even figure out how to START the damn thing. I get the book out and we are laughing so hard the tears in my eyes prevent me from reading. Husband finally spots a BUTTON to push-start the car. Then had to study the book. Was a trip.

[NCIndie]

3. Had a similar problem with a plugin hybrid.

First cold day, no heat. After about 5 minutes in electric mode, heat started coming but was tanking the range in electric mode. I took it out of e-mode and fired up the engine. Most cars I have owned would give heat in a minute or two, but this one gave zero heat until the engine was fully up to temperature.

There is absolutely no way that car would heat up idling in a parking lot on gasoline mode in less than 10 minutes.

[3Hotdogs]

4. Your last sentence....

I didn't think of that.

Still... she had it idling, trying to get heat for a few minutes. I spent at least 5 more minutes. There should have been some engine spin-off available by then?

[NCIndie]

6. Mine was 1/0. No heat until the engine was fully warm.

I would dress warmly with driving gloves on cold days to get through the initial cold 10-15 minutes

[Wonder Why]

7. Are you sure you "fired up the engine"? My hybrids don't start the engine immediately upon "starting" the computer

which occurs when you press the starter button. The engine only starts when necessary. And if you are just sitting in the parking lot, it may not be necessary for a while to run the engine as the only reasons to run it in a hybrid are to provide power to the wheels or recharge the battery. Does the battery need to be charged or car in drive? - start engine else, do nothing as it is not necessary.

Also, if heat is on auto, fan will be very low and you might not detect any heat as the car might have decided that until the engine is warm, there is no need to turn the fan up high and push cold air through the ducts so wait until it is warm enough before activating higher fan settings - that's what my hybrids do and neither is under 12 y/o.

[NCIndie]

10. Different story with my beast.

I had the ability to get totally out of e-drive by toggling through options. Full ECO was all battery, the normal mode would kick the engine on with battery assist as default but turn it off when the car stopped, and go engine only in SAVE mode. The dash was instrument heavy complete with tach. Never a doubt when the engine was firing.

[Diamond_Dog]

5. When my son went on a business trip to San Francisco this past summer

The rental car they gave him was an all electric Volvo. He’d never driven an electric car in his life. Good thing he’s a young guy and into cars, because he figured it out himself. Apparently you open the car with the fob, get in it, depress the pedal, and go. No pressing buttons to start it or anything !

[House of Roberts]

8. Not Lucas electrics.

Please tell me they’re better at it by now.

[Turbineguy]

12. Lucas electrics.

Inventers of the short circuit.

[House of Roberts]

13. I don't know that they invented it,

but they certainly perfected it!

[mitch96]

15. Ahhh, Lucas electrics...aka the prince of darkness. Lucas runs on smoke.

When the smoke leaks out so does the function of the device..
Not my fav brand..
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[onethatcares]

19. when I rode a Triumph motorcycle

back in the 70s he was the "Man who invented darkness". Seems no matter how things change they remain the same.

[mitch96]

21. I had a bad experience coming around a speedy bend in a triumph TR-3 at about 0-dark thirty. Lucas electrics went out

could not see shit... No fun..
m

[Hermit-The-Prog]

9. I like my ancient car's controls

Heater control is a slider: empty thermometer with icycles on one end, full thermometer with wavy vertical lines on the other.
Fan control is a knob, 3 positions: blank, 4-blade fan with some wavy lines, 4-blade fan with lots of lines.

[Tomconroy]

11. Land Rover actually invented the personal computer.

They never brought it to market because they couldn't get it to leak oil.

[petronius]

14. I was driving into a tunnel car wash a few weeks ago behind a new Rivian

Right at the entrance was where the driver realized he didn't know how to put it in neutral - the rollers were bumping under the truck for five minutes while the driver and attendant tried to google the answer...

[3Hotdogs]

18. Probably the brake holding feature that keeps the brake engaged at a stop light while

your food is off the brake pedal.

[mitch96]

16. Two options. Read the manual or google how to turn the heater on...nt

[keithbvadu2]

17. Rented a T-bird. Couldn't figure how to release the parking brake.

No handle or foot lever for the release.
Had to go back in and ask.
Take it out of park.

[onethatcares]

20. needed to put gas in a 2022 chevrolet malibu

I don't remember where they hid the filler tube but we sat at the pump for 10 minutes until a gentleman helped us out.

[LudwigPastorius]

22. Hey, it's a Land Rover,...

not an Ice Rover.