Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
62 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
My company uses a floppy disk symbol to save your work. (Original Post) Lunabell Mar 17 OP
soon children will not even know lapfog_1 Mar 17 #1
Are people actually proud of not knowing much? randr Mar 17 #2
Remember when they were actually floppy? Basic LA Mar 17 #3
Yes! Lunabell Mar 17 #4
Thanks for confirming! Basic LA Mar 17 #6
One of my tasks at work was to remove the second-shift hard disks ... JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 17 #10
When I started at my firm in the mid 80s, we had two word processing "stations." rsdsharp Mar 17 #12
When I started working in offices, same time frame, intheflow Mar 17 #36
All of the secretaries had IBM Selectrics, but ours had no memory. rsdsharp Mar 17 #38
A coworker once suggested we call those crunchies EverHopeful Mar 17 #13
8 inch 4 1/2 inch. and the "hard floppy". hard drives intialy were the size of washing machines . AllaN01Bear Mar 17 #22
That was the progression all right. Basic LA Mar 17 #26
Yes! sdfernando Mar 17 #34
We were there at the start! Basic LA Mar 17 #35
There Were Two Sizes ProfessorGAC Mar 17 #42
Thank you! Basic LA Mar 17 #47
Boy there's a trip down memory lane. Permanut Mar 18 #51
Not just one floppy disk, two. One floppy for program, the other for data. PufPuf23 Mar 22 #61
I have heard of but have never seen a slide rule. OnDoutside Mar 17 #11
My engineer dad had one. Lunabell Mar 17 #15
i have one . havent used it. there are slide rule apps for iphone and desktops. some still usem, AllaN01Bear Mar 17 #23
I will give up my slide rule when they pry it out of my cold, dead, stiff fingers...... lastlib Mar 17 #37
Had One In HS ProfessorGAC Mar 17 #43
Why would young people know? Elessar Zappa Mar 17 #41
Can you even still buy them? I still do use these disks though, but it's been a long time since I've bought SWBTATTReg Mar 17 #5
I don't know. Lunabell Mar 17 #7
Yes, I do miss the familiar tones of when you dial in to a computer link, it was so 'catchy' I guess. The only reason I SWBTATTReg Mar 17 #8
Amazon sells them, but they aint cheap getagrip_already Mar 17 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author AllaN01Bear Mar 17 #24
staples and i understand game stop does .if my information is correct. AllaN01Bear Mar 17 #25
I still have three or four unopened boxes of floppy discs lpbk2713 Mar 17 #14
Collector's items one day? Lunabell Mar 17 #16
Here's your inheritance kids! JoseBalow Mar 17 #20
The first computer I ever used was in grade school JoseBalow Mar 17 #17
Oh my! Lunabell Mar 17 #18
Instead of a stack of punch cards JoseBalow Mar 17 #19
Wow. Lunabell Mar 17 #29
allan01bear , behave . this is so rife for puns . i rmember those as well AllaN01Bear Mar 17 #30
When I took a BASIC language course in college.... lastlib Mar 17 #39
Ahhhh, Fortran. A long long time ago! Amazing that we all had to program literally in all kinds of languages, SWBTATTReg Mar 18 #54
Saw Those ProfessorGAC Mar 17 #44
Somehow I acquired one of the punch machines with a full roll of paper tape. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 22 #59
I wouldn't know where to begin to get one to work with a modern device JoseBalow Mar 22 #60
The MS Word and Excel programs I use Danascot Mar 17 #21
I've been working with a woman in my senior moving job and I have thrown away so many of these discs kimbutgar Mar 17 #27
our united families once went to canada and stayed in a bnb. the owner was still using her apple 2 e to do her job. AllaN01Bear Mar 17 #32
I still have some. Of course, I also still have a Wang programming manual. LoisB Mar 17 #28
I'd never thought of that. I'm conditioned. Can we PLEASE not use Teams? underpants Mar 17 #31
how many of u remember teleprinters . chunck chunck chunck and the bell . ding. i forget the bell symbol AllaN01Bear Mar 17 #33
The Associated Press machines at our university newspaper.... hunter Mar 17 #48
Teletypes! Now you're talking. Basic LA Mar 18 #52
The 5 1/4" floppies were the personal computing standard for a time Shermann Mar 17 #40
It's still the international "save" symbol Polybius Mar 17 #45
And someone in this very group still posts "Dial-up warning" in their thread titles Polybius Mar 17 #46
lol cats , note , some still use dial up as internet connection so is not completely lost. AllaN01Bear Mar 17 #49
Stop! Polybius Mar 18 #50
hem google search and these answers please . untill we get full service yes it is a thing. AllaN01Bear Mar 18 #53
Wow. Lunabell Mar 19 #56
Part of infrastructure plan HoosierDebbie Mar 19 #57
crosses fingers and toes that biden gets re electid to complete this mission. AllaN01Bear Mar 20 #58
k&r n/t area51 Mar 19 #55
My avatar n/t Yavin4 Mar 22 #62

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
1. soon children will not even know
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 01:37 PM
Mar 17

the symbols for HDDs either. Even the term "hard drive" or "disk drive" will go away.

eventually, the concept of external detachable storage ( of any kind ) may go away. There will be cloud storage and local memory ( persistent memory ). Those two will be around ( because of latency and physics until we extend quantum memory from wherever we are located to where some other information is kept.

 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
3. Remember when they were actually floppy?
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 01:46 PM
Mar 17

Then the smaller ones encased in plastic came along, like the ubiquitous symbol shown above.
Hope I'm recalling this correctly.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
10. One of my tasks at work was to remove the second-shift hard disks ...
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 02:35 PM
Mar 17

... and replace them with our third-shift hard disks. The removed disks were then covered with something that looks like a cake dish cover.

The next task was to plan where we would find lunch at 3:30am. There weren't that many places to choose from.

rsdsharp

(9,186 posts)
12. When I started at my firm in the mid 80s, we had two word processing "stations."
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 02:59 PM
Mar 17

They used large floppy discs — about 12”.

intheflow

(28,476 posts)
36. When I started working in offices, same time frame,
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 05:27 PM
Mar 17

I used different computers for different jobs. Word processing was done on an IBM Selectric typewriter and we could send out reams of form letters because it could store up to something like 120 words in its memory. We oohed and aahed over that marvel! 😂

I can’t remember what I did on the Wang and Apple computers (first job, short-lived due to extremely pervy boss), only that different computations had to be done on entirely different machines, and, yes, we backed it all up on the floppies that could double as fans in the summer.

rsdsharp

(9,186 posts)
38. All of the secretaries had IBM Selectrics, but ours had no memory.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 05:38 PM
Mar 17

After a couple years the firm bought a couple of Facit typewriters that had storage similar to what you describe.

In the early 90s, everybody got desktop computers, including the attorneys — except for the secretary of one of the senior partners. She was about a year from retirement, and refused to use a computer.

EverHopeful

(187 posts)
13. A coworker once suggested we call those crunchies
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 03:14 PM
Mar 17

because of the sound they made when you ran over them with your chair. Didn't catch on, rather like my calling "autocorrect" "autocorrupt" hasn't caught on.

AllaN01Bear

(18,253 posts)
22. 8 inch 4 1/2 inch. and the "hard floppy". hard drives intialy were the size of washing machines .
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 04:19 PM
Mar 17

some du member has a hard floppy for their sig pic. i got a couple of hard ( 114 mb i think)

sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
34. Yes!
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 04:36 PM
Mar 17

I worked with 8” single-sided floppy disks way long ago. Had to boot up with the System disk, take it out and put in another disk to work on your documents and save them…might need to put the system disk back in for other functions…..there was a lot of disk swapping going on…then, miracle of miracles, double-sided, double-density came out! 4X the capacity!

 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
35. We were there at the start!
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 04:50 PM
Mar 17

Sadly, my computer "skills" seem never to have advanced along with the technology.

PufPuf23

(8,787 posts)
61. Not just one floppy disk, two. One floppy for program, the other for data.
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 08:11 PM
Mar 22

Bought my first pc in 1985 and also bought WordPerfect, Lotus123, and DBase.

Bought an Everex Step 386 in 87 or 88 with a 200 MB hard drive. The HD cost almost $2000 alone.

Lunabell

(6,088 posts)
15. My engineer dad had one.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 03:35 PM
Mar 17

I did not inherit my dad's math gene. That's why I'm a nurse and not a veterinarian. So much math just to treat animals.

lastlib

(23,244 posts)
37. I will give up my slide rule when they pry it out of my cold, dead, stiff fingers......
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 05:37 PM
Mar 17

Still have the slide rule I got for my 16th birthday (other kids got a car for their 16th--I got a slide rule.......and was actually happy about it!) Had to make a new leather case for it last year--the old one was coming apart. I don't use it much--but I can still solve triangles on it faster than I can look up an app online and type in info. In high school, I won a slide-rule competition against students from about two dozen other schools. I was pretty dog-gone good with it!

Some 30-somethings at work a few years ago had never seen one, so I had to bring it in and demonstrate it. They were mildly amused.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
43. Had One In HS
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 09:05 PM
Mar 17

Might have used it in my 1st year of college. "Affordable calculators came out around that time, including scientific versions. So, I don't exactly remember when I got my first one.
But, we used them extensively in HS.
The math teachers had 4 foot versions hanging over the chalkboard.
They looked like this.
https://trtradingcompany.com/product/huge-4-pickett-american-quality-slide-rule/

SWBTATTReg

(22,133 posts)
5. Can you even still buy them? I still do use these disks though, but it's been a long time since I've bought
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 02:04 PM
Mar 17

some, so as I was reading your email/text, I wondered. I guess that you still can buy them, but I've still stocked up on them pretty well.

And you're probably right, does the younger generation even know what these are, if they ever even seen a floppy disc.

Lunabell

(6,088 posts)
7. I don't know.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 02:09 PM
Mar 17

I don't think they even put cd players in cars anymore. Everything is streaming now. I can still hear the dial up screech we used to get when signing on to the internet. 😆

SWBTATTReg

(22,133 posts)
8. Yes, I do miss the familiar tones of when you dial in to a computer link, it was so 'catchy' I guess. The only reason I
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 02:17 PM
Mar 17

kept the floppy disc drive in my computer when I had it built, was that I'm always double and triple ensuring that I can get into my system, do things should something happen to my computer, hence the floppy disc drive. Of course I have the disc drive too, but they wondered when I had them build the system years ago why I would want this feature (the floppy drive) still? Of course, I told them of my desire to have multiple entryways/access on my computer for any possible thing that may happen.

Next time I go to Office Depot, Office Max, I'll look to see if they still have the discs (floppy).

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
9. Amazon sells them, but they aint cheap
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 02:33 PM
Mar 17

$30/10.

You can still buy them and the readers/drives though. These are the more modern hard plastic 3.5" ones. I didn't look for the 5" version.

Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #5)

lpbk2713

(42,759 posts)
14. I still have three or four unopened boxes of floppy discs
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 03:33 PM
Mar 17


Even though I haven't had a computer with a floppy drive for twenty years or more.

Although I must say I do have an external floppy drive with a USB connector.
So I could use a floppy disc if I had to.

JoseBalow

(2,391 posts)
17. The first computer I ever used was in grade school
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 03:40 PM
Mar 17

It was a Wang (no offense!) that used rolls of punched paper tape.

JoseBalow

(2,391 posts)
19. Instead of a stack of punch cards
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 03:49 PM
Mar 17

you would feed in a roll of perforated paper tape. The bigger the program, the bigger the roll of tape. It could get quite unwieldy and cumbersome, but still more practical that a stack of cards.

lastlib

(23,244 posts)
39. When I took a BASIC language course in college....
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 05:42 PM
Mar 17

we saved/loaded our programs to/from paper tapes. You had to be one of the FORTRAN kids to use the 8" floppies.....

SWBTATTReg

(22,133 posts)
54. Ahhhh, Fortran. A long long time ago! Amazing that we all had to program literally in all kinds of languages,
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 02:29 PM
Mar 18

Basic, Assembler, Pascal, SAS, Cobol, PL1, etc. And you had to know multiple languages too, in order to read some magnetic tapes, e.g., Assembler to read some mag. tapes.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
44. Saw Those
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 09:08 PM
Mar 17

In HS, there was a dumb terminal connected to a local university's mainframe.
We saved our work to paper tape like that. I took that short course my 3rd year of HS. I don't have the faintest idea what I tried to program.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
59. Somehow I acquired one of the punch machines with a full roll of paper tape.
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 06:37 PM
Mar 22

No documentation and no idea about the interface on it, though. It just collects dust in my garage.

JoseBalow

(2,391 posts)
60. I wouldn't know where to begin to get one to work with a modern device
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 06:52 PM
Mar 22

I have seen them connected to old typewriters, like a kind of word processor I guess. I'm not sure how interchangeable it would be, or if you could even re-adapt it from one device to another. Maybe some sort of modified HAL I suppose, not my field of expertise at all.

Danascot

(4,690 posts)
21. The MS Word and Excel programs I use
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 04:02 PM
Mar 17

use the floppy disk symbol for save. It's in the upper left corner and small.

Per wikipedia: The retail floppy disk version of Windows 95 came on 13 DMF formatted floppy disks, while OSR 2.1 doubled the floppy count to 26.

kimbutgar

(21,161 posts)
27. I've been working with a woman in my senior moving job and I have thrown away so many of these discs
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 04:25 PM
Mar 17

Because she has nothing to use them on! I actually found a 45 size floppy disc also!

AllaN01Bear

(18,253 posts)
32. our united families once went to canada and stayed in a bnb. the owner was still using her apple 2 e to do her job.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 04:31 PM
Mar 17

this was as of the year 2000. this was for a reunion and to talk to the most seinior members of the fam. my late mom and aunt. the matriarchs . sook bay canada.

AllaN01Bear

(18,253 posts)
33. how many of u remember teleprinters . chunck chunck chunck and the bell . ding. i forget the bell symbol
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 04:32 PM
Mar 17

hunter

(38,317 posts)
48. The Associated Press machines at our university newspaper....
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:48 PM
Mar 17

The bells were for big news, the sort they'd interrupt television and radio for. We'd all freeze, like at the beginning of an earthquake, wondering if the bells were signaling the end of the world, the missiles launched, time to jump under our desks and kiss our asses good-bye.

Just like most earthquakes, the moment quickly passed.as someone called out the story, the death of some famous person, whatever...

 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
52. Teletypes! Now you're talking.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 12:45 AM
Mar 18

I was an operator for RCA Global Communications in SanFran, and then at Western Union headquarters in Downtown L.A.

Shermann

(7,423 posts)
40. The 5 1/4" floppies were the personal computing standard for a time
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 06:19 PM
Mar 17

The 8" didn't make much inroads there and were quickly replaced. The 3 1/2" standard replaced that just as quickly. Anybody who used the 5 1/4" to any significant degree probably remembers losing data. They were, well, floppy and had exposed magnetic media.

The icon is considered a "skeuomorph".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeuomorph#Virtual_examples


Polybius

(15,428 posts)
45. It's still the international "save" symbol
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 10:16 PM
Mar 17

A huge amount of software still uses it too, and thank God for that!

Lunabell

(6,088 posts)
56. Wow.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 11:58 PM
Mar 19

We need to upgrade in this country. Everyone should have access to highspeed internet, should they choose to.

HoosierDebbie

(291 posts)
57. Part of infrastructure plan
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 11:59 PM
Mar 19

42+ billion dollars was designated to make high speed internet available all across the country through Biden's Infrastructure Plan.

Latest Discussions»The DU Lounge»My company uses a floppy ...