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PCIntern

(25,556 posts)
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 10:44 AM Mar 23

I have hung probably 30 chandeliers in my life...

And of all the electrical and plumbing work I do I despise this the worst. Today, I had to put up a new ceiling fixture in my foyer. It was very straightforward and the box from which to hang it I had already prepped in the late 80s when my mom lived in this house. So I had all my tools, all the equipment I needed, read the instructions understood exactly what I had to do.

After a couple tiny glitches involving different sizes of knurled nut to hold the assemblies to the ceiling and others to hold the framework which supports the glass, I had it all done. I was very proud of myself.

I put everything away including the ladder, And when I walked into the room I looked and saw that I had trapped one of the wires outside the assembly so I had to go back and get the ladder, climb up, undo both of the knurled nuts and carefully hold it so the whole fixture wouldn’t fall. Pushedthe wire back in with a key, pushed the whole assembly back up and tightened the nuts.

I’m so damned mad at myself for not checking all the way around and of course the one area that I did not look at carefully what turned out to be the offending area. Stupid. 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬.

The reason this bothers me so much is this is exactly why things fail in life. Not the essentials but the Dumb stuff which is, as it turns out, is critical to success.

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I have hung probably 30 chandeliers in my life... (Original Post) PCIntern Mar 23 OP
A young man, who worked for me restoring homes, cachukis Mar 23 #1
Yeah...genius at work. PCIntern Mar 23 #7
Were all 30 guilty? My biggest realization as I gotten old is task are almost all useless and essential at the ... marble falls Mar 23 #2
I am an old guy. About 8 months ago I took up leather working. Chainfire Mar 23 #5
You reminded me of the old joke PCIntern Mar 23 #8
Exactly how I feel. Every step holds it's own personal mantrap. That's why I paint. I know how to get my mistakes ... marble falls Mar 23 #9
I took a shop class in my early 40s Marthe48 Mar 23 #19
That is really screwed up! (I am sorry, sometimes I just can't help myself) Chainfire Mar 23 #22
lol Good one! Marthe48 Mar 23 #23
If it only took one trip to the hardware store, you still aced it. NBachers Mar 23 #3
I hate hanging lights too genxlib Mar 23 #4
The transformers are the weak link PCIntern Mar 23 #6
I hope they all got fair trials before the hangings. GreenWave Mar 23 #10
What movie was that from? PCIntern Mar 23 #11
good one! I got it from this song GreenWave Mar 23 #13
I know in Silverado, the Sheriff tells Mal... Wounded Bear Mar 23 #20
Whoever designs lights are sadists Danascot Mar 23 #12
Instructions printed in the size of bacteria! 3catwoman3 Mar 23 #15
I have a spray can of fixative Diamond_Dog Mar 23 #16
My hair salon carries a variety of skin- and haircare products. 3catwoman3 Mar 23 #24
One of my basement lights stopped working Marthe48 Mar 23 #14
Sounds familiar.... PCIntern Mar 23 #18
My life improved vastly Mr.Bill Mar 23 #17
At least no one's been through this ... dickthegrouch Mar 23 #21

cachukis

(2,245 posts)
1. A young man, who worked for me restoring homes,
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 10:52 AM
Mar 23

came to me once, holding a board. He complained that he had cut it twice and it was still too short.

marble falls

(57,102 posts)
2. Were all 30 guilty? My biggest realization as I gotten old is task are almost all useless and essential at the ...
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 11:02 AM
Mar 23

... same time. My dad feels at 91 it is essential to bake cookies and give them away. My brothers feel this is useless. I encourage him and have started baking bread (for two years) - useless and essential.

I find that getting too into the groove of it has always produced a rookie's error or two. I've learned tricks to pick up dropped steps. And so have you. Nothing to be mad about. Just another opportunity to reinforce discipline into your endeavors.

Welcome to an aging brain!

Chainfire

(17,549 posts)
5. I am an old guy. About 8 months ago I took up leather working.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 11:16 AM
Mar 23

I have never seen a process that is so open to fatal errors at every step. One day, I hope to get through a complete project without a major fault. It does keep my hands and mind busy and keeps me from being out chasing good drugs, cheap booze and loose women. I am actually having a heck of a lot of fun with it.

PCIntern

(25,556 posts)
8. You reminded me of the old joke
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 11:27 AM
Mar 23

The short version is that the guy goes to the doctor and the doc ask him, do you smoke, drink alcohol, or consort sexually. The guy answers no to all three. Then the doctor says “what’s the point of living?”

marble falls

(57,102 posts)
9. Exactly how I feel. Every step holds it's own personal mantrap. That's why I paint. I know how to get my mistakes ...
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 11:36 AM
Mar 23

... off the canvas with no sign.

I used to let my dyeing students make mistakes. Sometime those mistakes became new techniques.

At least I didn't have to go out to the garage and schlep the ladder back inside.

Marthe48

(16,975 posts)
19. I took a shop class in my early 40s
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 01:49 PM
Mar 23

to get a drafting cert. I used specs on the instructions to make a metal screw. I'm hear to tell you that not a single one of the measurements was correct. And yet, it is a screw, that I made

Enjoy the leatherworking. My best friend gave me a leather vest with fringes that her Dad made for her when she was about 11 or 12. I treasure it

Chainfire

(17,549 posts)
22. That is really screwed up! (I am sorry, sometimes I just can't help myself)
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 02:10 PM
Mar 23

As close as I ever came to drafting was that I can draw a good piping isometric. I spent a lifetime in construction. I mastered my trade, but I also paid close attention to the work that the other tradesmen and women were doing around me and I asked a lot of questions; it made me into a passable carpener and a fairly good electrician as well as being a master plumber. I can hang and finish drywall and paint well but I don't like to. It has made me a very effective home handyman. What really baffles me is motor mechanics. I do some of it, but I hate it with a passion; I find the smell of gasoline revolting. I need to replace the carb on a riding mower and I have been avoiding it like the plague.

Marthe48

(16,975 posts)
23. lol Good one!
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 02:32 PM
Mar 23

I feel like our parents expected us to do all of that and learn how by osmosis. But, by golly, we all picked up something, even if the result wasn't perfect

My husband did our auto repairs and I thought he liked it. When he was 42, something was wrong on the car, and I figured he'd fix it. He had come home after work and was sitting in his chair and said, "When do I ever get to stop doing car repair?" I said, "Any time you want. I always thought you liked it!" So, mostly, from then on, we took whatever car with a problem to the mechanic. He changed the 8 volt battery in the Prius, probably the last big job.

But I feel like that sometimes-when will someone else do this? Then I get irritated if my kids try to help.

NBachers

(17,120 posts)
3. If it only took one trip to the hardware store, you still aced it.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 11:11 AM
Mar 23

I've got a couple of ceiling fixtures in my kitchen where I hooked them up with pull-chain switches, so I could turn them on and off with the pull-chains. This allows me to keep my kitchen speakers hot with the lights off. I can leave the wall switch on, so I can listen to music without losing power to my speakers; but I can turn the lights off and on with the pull-chains.

The pull-chain switches have worn out, which means that I have to use the wall switch anyway, killing the speakers if the lights are off.

I've got the pull switches, but I've been putting off going up and replacing them. Maybe you've inspired me to do it today.

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
4. I hate hanging lights too
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 11:14 AM
Mar 23

Sometimes it feels like they purposely make it a two person job because it can be impossible to hold the unit up and connect the wires without having 4 hands. The good ones have a hanging bracket or chain to hold the unit while you make the connections but that seems like a rarity.

I have also had trouble with lights going bad and have had to change the same fixture multiple times. I love LED lighting and won’t buy anything else but the transformers they use are often crap

PCIntern

(25,556 posts)
6. The transformers are the weak link
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 11:24 AM
Mar 23

I always tear off the spec of the transformer and tape it to the low voltage wire so if I have to replace it I know what I’m doing. Sometimes the plate on the transformer gets messed up or fades.

Wounded Bear

(58,666 posts)
20. I know in Silverado, the Sheriff tells Mal...
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 01:54 PM
Mar 23

"We're gonna arrest you, give you a fair trial and a first class hanging."

Danascot

(4,690 posts)
12. Whoever designs lights are sadists
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 11:42 AM
Mar 23

The materials are flimsy They don't fit together well. The instructions are printed the size of bacteria, and they're not in English. Once you take things apart it's not obvious in what order the parts go back together and everything is loose and moving around until they're tight. You don't have enough hands to hold things together while you add more pieces. If you're working on a ceiling light it's easy to drop a part then all the pieces you've put on come apart since you're not holding them together ... you climb down the ladder only to find it's rolled under a hard to move piece of furniture, or vanished entirely. Once you put the last part on the end (usually the ball), if things are loose, you have to take everything apart all the way to the cross bar and readjust the spacing, and when you do, there isn't enough thread left for the ball to go on. If you're rewiring a lamp screwing things back together often twists the wires into knots and pulls the wires out of their connections. Arrrrgh! Lighting drives me crazy! I'm convinced the a--holes who make them are laughing and coming up with new ways to make assembly impossible.

Diamond_Dog

(32,005 posts)
16. I have a spray can of fixative
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 12:28 PM
Mar 23

that I use for my art work, and it’s the same. Instructions printed in 3 languages, the size of bacteria.

3catwoman3

(24,006 posts)
24. My hair salon carries a variety of skin- and haircare products.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 02:59 PM
Mar 23

One of the items purports to diminish lines around the eyes. The bottle and the box are both quite small, and the print on the box is ridiculously miniscule.

Those of us of an age to be interested in diminishing lines around our eyes are also of an age to not be able to read such tiny print without lots of magnification. Are the package designers not aware of their target customer demographics?

Marthe48

(16,975 posts)
14. One of my basement lights stopped working
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 11:50 AM
Mar 23

I changed the bulb and then the outlet, neither helped. The light is a single socket at the end of a long wire, with a plug. My husband hung it in the laundry area and it turns on and off when I shut off the power strip it is on. Since the obvious didn't work, I took it down, which meant I had to snip a piece of string mu husband used to keep it from slipping down. I could reach it to snip, but not to untie.

I brought it upstairs, and noticed a collar around the socket was loose, so I tightened it up, and then tried the bulb I tried downstairs, used a plug up here and it worked. I took it back down and left it on the washer till I felt like putting it back up. Yesterday, I put it back up. This time, I got the stepladder out, got a hammer and a nail, and pounded that into the cross beam, so it was easier to get to, and rehung the wire, plugged it in, and of course, it didn't work. I have a work light I'll put up.

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