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Redlo Nosrep

(111 posts)
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 11:30 PM Oct 2012

Actors Who've Played Against Type

I'm a great fan of good westerns and just indulged in two of my favorites over the last two nights. I was struck by the difference in typecasting between the male leads in each movie.

Gregory Peck in "The Big Country" plays the handsome, honorable, brave hero who comes West to marry a rancher's daughter and gets more than he bargained for. It's an excellent movie but Peck's performance is predictable in its typecasting.

In contrast, Henry Fonda in "Once Upon a Time in the West" plays the icy, psychopathic villain whose comeuppance is foretold in flashbacks. He's evil through and through, much against his expected role as the hero.

Many critics think "The Searchers" is the greatest western ever made, and it could be argued that John Wayne played against type in his role in that film.

I remember some actor once being quoted as "It's better being typecast than not casted at all." LOL

What other actors have impressed you with their ability to play against type, in any kind of movie? BTW, Wikipedia has a list of actors who have successfully escaped typecasting in certain roles.

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Actors Who've Played Against Type (Original Post) Redlo Nosrep Oct 2012 OP
Jim Carrey in "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind." NNadir Oct 2012 #1
Denzel Washington in Training Day. (**Spoiler**) Chan790 Oct 2012 #2
How Could I Have Failed to Mention Redlo Nosrep Oct 2012 #3
That movie is hilarious! Odin2005 Oct 2012 #4
Kindegarten Cop.... Wounded Bear Oct 2012 #18
Gregory Peck did do at least one against type role sarge43 Oct 2012 #5
Two - Moondog Oct 2012 #21
Three charlyvi Oct 2012 #37
For me, Fred MacMurray in 'The Apartment' Ptah Oct 2012 #6
Also in "Double Indemnity": MiddleFingerMom Oct 2012 #11
How could I know that murder can sometimes smelled like honeysuckle Ptah Oct 2012 #14
That's the first movie I thought of, too! graywarrior Oct 2012 #33
Two-fer: Bill Murray & Robt Deniro in Mad Dog and Glory Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2012 #7
Tower Heist rrneck Oct 2012 #8
Tom Hanks in 'Philadelphia' Denninmi Oct 2012 #9
Hanks got robbed on Saving Private Ryan.... Wounded Bear Oct 2012 #19
Terrence Stamp in prescilla, queen of the desert cliffordu Oct 2012 #10
I Remember This! Redlo Nosrep Oct 2012 #20
Yes it was. cliffordu Oct 2012 #24
All three main actors in both films were/are straight. Aristus Oct 2012 #31
Andy Griffith, Too Redlo Nosrep Oct 2012 #12
Excellent choice, Redlo Nosrep. Ptah Oct 2012 #16
Brad Pitt in Kalifornia Blue_In_AK Oct 2012 #13
Ian Mckellen was both Gandalf and Magneto Motown_Johnny Oct 2012 #15
Dan Ackroyd and John Belushi in one of the most underrated movies ever, "Neighbors". MiddleFingerMom Oct 2012 #17
Keira Knightley in A Dangerous Method. Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #22
Anne Hathaway in Love and Other Drugs Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #23
Kevin Bacon OrwellwasRight Oct 2012 #25
And That Movie With Meryl Streep! Redlo Nosrep Oct 2012 #34
Welcome to DU, by the way! OrwellwasRight Oct 2012 #38
Wilford Brimley in "The Firm" (1993) Lionel Mandrake Oct 2012 #26
Alan Rickman in Galaxy Quest. eom charlyvi Oct 2012 #27
I LOVE that movie. I may have to go watch it now. I even own it riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #29
I played Richard III.... charlyvi Oct 2012 #30
You broke the ship. You broke the bloody ship. riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #32
He wants to think! charlyvi Oct 2012 #35
Charlize Theron in Monster, Julia Roberts in Erin Brockovich riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #28
Charlize Theron was awesome in that movie. Blue_In_AK Oct 2012 #36
 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
2. Denzel Washington in Training Day. (**Spoiler**)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 12:17 AM
Oct 2012

The first third of the movie, you think "Oh okay, he's a narcotics cop and he has to bend the rules to be effective."

Then, out of nowhere...he blows away a drug-dealer who owes him money...and the theatre went silent in shock because Denzel never plays the bad guy, but in this moment the entire understanding of the movie to that point changes...he's not rule-breaking antihero, he's the bad guy. He's not trying to teach new partner Ethan Hawke that you have to bend the rules and be effective, he's just setting him up to get busted if he goes to his superiors and forcing him to become just as corrupt.

Redlo Nosrep

(111 posts)
3. How Could I Have Failed to Mention
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 10:54 AM
Oct 2012

...Arnie and Danny deVito in "Twins."

Whatever else you think about The Governator, he does feel comfortable in poking fun at his tough-guy typecasting.

Wounded Bear

(58,706 posts)
18. Kindegarten Cop....
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 02:07 PM
Oct 2012

Arnie has had a couple of good comedic roles.

Kinda goes against how he is usually portrayed as so self confident and strong, even in real life.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
7. Two-fer: Bill Murray & Robt Deniro in Mad Dog and Glory
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 12:29 PM
Oct 2012
In a movie about a mild-mannered police photographer who is befriended by a swaggering gangster, Bill Murray plays the gangster and Robert De Niro plays the photographer. Directed by John McNaughton from a script by Richard Price, this comedy-drama has its moments but never quite lifts off. De Niro plays a shy type nicknamed Mad Dog who accidentally saves Murray's life. In gratitude, Murray "gives" him a girl, Glory (Uma Thurman), who is supposed to satisfy his needs and make him feel good. Instead, the photographer falls in love with her. When the gangster wants her back, the photographer says no, triggering an unlikely showdown. Murray is scarily funny as a mobster who wants to be a standup comic, but De Niro plays this nonentity as, well, a nonentity.

Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
9. Tom Hanks in 'Philadelphia'
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 12:42 PM
Oct 2012

Until then, he had only appeared in comedies, some of them kind of bad comedies, and of course his notorious role in the cross-dressing sitcom.

Then he did a drama and won the best actor Oscar for it, IIRC.

Wounded Bear

(58,706 posts)
19. Hanks got robbed on Saving Private Ryan....
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 02:10 PM
Oct 2012

IMHO. He's done some excellent work in a variety of roles.

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
10. Terrence Stamp in prescilla, queen of the desert
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 01:11 PM
Oct 2012

Tough guy for every film he'd ever done - then plays (convincingly) a gentle, gay drag queen.

Magnificent.

Redlo Nosrep

(111 posts)
20. I Remember This!
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 04:37 PM
Oct 2012

It was a great story and very engrossing, a testament to the very talented Terrence Stamp.

And, speaking of tough guys playing drag queens, the "Wong Foo" movie with Patrick Swayze and Wesley Snipes was very cool, too.

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
31. All three main actors in both films were/are straight.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:57 PM
Oct 2012

I thought that was interesting.

Terence Stamp's performance in "Priscilla" was both tough and sweet.

Redlo Nosrep

(111 posts)
12. Andy Griffith, Too
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 01:48 PM
Oct 2012

He wasn't exactly Opie's homespun hero sheriff of Mayberry when he did "A Face in the Crowd."

Oh, and Elijah Wood's take on the cannibal serial killer in "Sin City" after being typecast as the gentle Frodo in the LOTR trilogy.

I really admire actors who take the chance to break out of the roles their audiences have come to expect from them.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
13. Brad Pitt in Kalifornia
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 01:49 PM
Oct 2012

Coming after that adorable role he did in Thelma and Louise and A River Runs Through It, Kalifornia was quite a shock.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
15. Ian Mckellen was both Gandalf and Magneto
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 01:57 PM
Oct 2012

I'm not sure if this is exactly where you were going but it could be argued that Gandalf was pretty much the ultimate good guy while Magneto was pretty much the ultimate bad gun.

Ian did both, in three movies each, and did them very successfully.












Edit to add: OK Fine, Robin Williams in One Hour Photo. (the boring answer)

MiddleFingerMom

(25,163 posts)
17. Dan Ackroyd and John Belushi in one of the most underrated movies ever, "Neighbors".
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 02:02 PM
Oct 2012

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OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
25. Kevin Bacon
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:49 PM
Oct 2012

in The Woodsman and Sleepers. Although people make fun of him due to the six degrees game, he is actually a ver talented and extremely versatile actor. Who else could pull off successful roles in Animal House, A Few Good Men, JFK, Apollp 13, Mystic river, Sleepers, Wild Things, Beauty Shop, and X-Men First Class???

Check out his IMDB page:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000102/

Redlo Nosrep

(111 posts)
34. And That Movie With Meryl Streep!
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 10:29 PM
Oct 2012

He was a very slimy villain in "The River Wild" and really managed to project a menace and evil that was as chilling as the cold water he was in for most of the filming.

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
26. Wilford Brimley in "The Firm" (1993)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:21 PM
Oct 2012

His character in this movie is pure evil.

Showing Mitch McDeere (Tom Cruise) photos of himself with a prostitute, Bill DeVasher (Wilford Brimley) says: "Not just screwing, Mitch. All sorts of intimate acts, oral and whatnot, that can be particularly hard for a trusting wife to forgive and IMPOSSIBLE to forget."

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
29. I LOVE that movie. I may have to go watch it now. I even own it
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:36 PM
Oct 2012

"By Grabthar's Hammer, by the sons of Warvan, you shall be avenged!"


 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
28. Charlize Theron in Monster, Julia Roberts in Erin Brockovich
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:31 PM
Oct 2012

Emma Thompson as the mad Professor Trelawney in the Harry Potter series and Nanny McPhee after doing so much Shakespeare.

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