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Who decided to cast the diminutive Tom Cruise to play Jack Reacher... (Original Post) WCGreen Dec 2012 OP
i know.... really? i read the books first and turned son onto them. he and i have been seabeyond Dec 2012 #1
Dolph Lundgrun - That guy is still working nt MrScorpio Dec 2012 #2
Hmm - Liam Neeson is listed as 6'4" muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #5
Liam Neeson is a good action type of guy... WCGreen Dec 2012 #6
he was the first to come to me. and i hold with him. but, son thinks he was too old for the seabeyond Dec 2012 #11
I'd be more concerned about the personality differences NewJeffCT Dec 2012 #8
i agree. if it was only the height and physical, i could get past that. but, the character is what seabeyond Dec 2012 #12
It's still better than casting Ben Afflek as a Tony Mendez. nt jobycom Dec 2012 #13
i will take your word on that seabeyond Dec 2012 #16
Argo... They took a real life Latino hero and portrayed him as white. jobycom Dec 2012 #36
well, Cruise CAN measure to 6.5 if you count the size of his ego..... dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #25
Child: Blinded by stardom and a 'big' name. trof Dec 2012 #29
It's okay NV Whino Dec 2012 #3
Yep! WCGreen Dec 2012 #7
He is THE producer, bought the rights to the movie some time ago. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #26
AHA! The REAL story! trof Dec 2012 #30
Oh yeah...I read about that over a year ago, and knew he would do the movie eventually. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #32
katie must have taken him to the cleaners so he shoe-horned himself into a movie leftyohiolib Dec 2012 #4
Worst casting ever. MadrasT Dec 2012 #9
agreed. but i really had a tough time with the first couple books, he not having anything on seabeyond Dec 2012 #15
Hollywood "suits" who had to have a "bankable" name. MicaelS Dec 2012 #10
That's What The NY Times Article Said. Paladin Dec 2012 #14
If Child is happy that is all that matters. MicaelS Dec 2012 #17
I Met Child At A Book-Signing A Few Years Back. Paladin Dec 2012 #19
Wish Child could act, that would solve the problem. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #27
Reacher = modern day Lone Ranger trof Dec 2012 #31
Is the character's height actually important? Orrex Dec 2012 #18
In the novels... WCGreen Dec 2012 #22
! OriginalGeek Dec 2012 #23
Yep. Rob H. Dec 2012 #34
I dunno Orrex Dec 2012 #35
Ryan Hurst from Sons of Anarchy would be perfect graywarrior Dec 2012 #20
Xenu? LeftOfSelf-Centered Dec 2012 #21
Watch Out For The Little Man Forrestted Dec 2012 #24
EXACTLY! D-YEW-UMB - DUMB! trof Dec 2012 #28
I remember someone suggesting Kevin Durand Rob H. Dec 2012 #33
Don't mess with the Lollipop Guild. eShirl Dec 2012 #37
That's easy to fix. Lionel Mandrake Dec 2012 #38
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
1. i know.... really? i read the books first and turned son onto them. he and i have been
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:36 PM
Dec 2012

flabbergasted since hearing this. we did a search of all the actors that would work. we had quite a list. is such a big deal in our house, hubby that hasnt read the books is sending me article, validating sons and my opinion. it has been a hoot in this house.

it is ALL wrong. not only cause of size and looks, but personality also. cruise is intense and almost hyper type moving. reacher is lopin', smooth, mellow even in his intensity.



even the picture does not work

As Child explained wryly during a recent book tour stop in Chicago, the search for an actor to play Reacher took place over a number of years. Hundreds of names were “bandied about,” as he put it: Liam Neeson? Daniel Craig? Hugh Jackman? Gerard Butler? Russell Crowe? Josh Brolin? Jason Statham? How about a black Reacher, maybe Will Smith or Denzel Washington?

But the search repeatedly stalled over finding someone with Reacher’s imposing size: 6-feet-5-inches tall, 250 pounds. “It was completely impossible to find a physical facsimile of Jack Reacher in Hollywood,” Child said. “There are none—not even remotely close. The people you think are 6-feet-five and 250 pounds are not. Most of them are at least seven or eight inches shorter than the fictional Reacher. It got to the point where people were saying, ‘What about this guy who’s nine inches shorter than Reacher? He’s better than this other guy who’s nine and a half inches shorter than Reacher.’ ”

Although Child did not have casting approval, he was part of the discussions, and it was he who spun the search in new direction. “Absolutely Reacher is a big guy, no question about it, but he’s also intelligent, intimidating, he gives off a certain vibe,” he told the creative team. “What if we got everything except the size? How would that work?”

That new thinking led them to Cruise, but his casting set off howls of dismay across the Internet among Reacher fans, primarily because of the vast physical difference between the actor (an extremely fit but not exactly beefy 5-feet-7) and the character as described in the books. “I’ve got a picture in my head of Reacher,” went a typical comment on Deadline.com, “and don’t want it replaced by this twerp.” Other commenters pointed out that Cruise is an Oscar-nominated actor who can play intense, intimidating characters (as he did in “Collateral”) and has been embraced by audiences worldwide as the star of another blockbuster action series, “Mission: Impossible.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/movies/the-decision-to-cast-tom-cruise-as-jack-reacher/2012/12/14/194b3b6a-3e42-11e2-ae43-cf491b837f7b_story.html

muriel_volestrangler

(101,367 posts)
5. Hmm - Liam Neeson is listed as 6'4"
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 01:24 PM
Dec 2012

and, I would have thought, could pass for 250 pounds, even if he isn't.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
11. he was the first to come to me. and i hold with him. but, son thinks he was too old for the
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:43 PM
Dec 2012

character. thought should have been a man in 30's or late 20's.

guess liam is not much older than cruise.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
8. I'd be more concerned about the personality differences
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:08 PM
Dec 2012

than the difference in height - 6'2" Hugh Jackman made his career playing 5'2" Wolverine. And, Braveheart certainly succeeded at the box office and with critics, depsite short guy Mel Gibson playing William Wallace, who was (according to legend) a good foot taller than Gibson. (They even addressed that in the movie, if I recall.)

Cruise is good in certain roles that fit his personality - intense, cocky, strong-willed. But, his range is limited.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
12. i agree. if it was only the height and physical, i could get past that. but, the character is what
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:45 PM
Dec 2012

is so much fun with reacher. and i do not see cruise getting that.

jobycom

(49,038 posts)
36. Argo... They took a real life Latino hero and portrayed him as white.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:19 PM
Dec 2012

Good movie. Good performance by Affleck. Terrible example of how culture deludes itself.

trof

(54,256 posts)
29. Child: Blinded by stardom and a 'big' name.
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 06:28 PM
Dec 2012

I think the author of the books is so completely overjoyed ($$$) that they're making a movie out of one of his Reacher series books (and there will probably be more movies) that he would have signed off on Mickey Rooney.

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
3. It's okay
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:52 PM
Dec 2012

Heels and a low camera angle will fix it right up. I'm going to take a wild gues that Cruise is a producer. Right?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
32. Oh yeah...I read about that over a year ago, and knew he would do the movie eventually.
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 06:42 PM
Dec 2012

Which bummed me out no end, cause I like the stories, good bedtime reading.

Also have been waiting for Barry Eisler's "Rain" series to be a movie, have heard much talk, no results.
another fun series if you have not read it yet.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
9. Worst casting ever.
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:10 PM
Dec 2012

I was so excited about a Reacher movie... then found out it was Tom Cruise, and that ruined the whole thing for me.

I Jack Reacher and I can't stand Cruise.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
15. agreed. but i really had a tough time with the first couple books, he not having anything on
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:50 PM
Dec 2012

his person suggesting hygiene shit like... you know, TOOTHBRUSH. i would get all obsessive about him not brushing his teeth and then kissing a woman.

it almost ruined it for me. i kept pretending he really had a toothbrush and was really brushing his teeth. then in one book it said he had a toothbrush in his pocket.

isnt that the stupidest thing.

but was real hard for me to get past that one.

Paladin

(28,275 posts)
14. That's What The NY Times Article Said.
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:49 PM
Dec 2012

It took Cruise's influence to get this first Reacher movie made. The author of the books (Lee Child) said the Hollywood Suits had a problem with the Reacher stories, because they don't have enough dramatic arc---Reacher turns up somewhere, kills or kicks the shit out those who deserve it, and then moves on, staying the same straightforward, badass guy. I love the books, and I'm unhappy with Cruise portraying Reacher, but I'm glad the movie's coming out; Lee Child said he was pleased with the screenplay, so that's encouraging.....

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
17. If Child is happy that is all that matters.
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 03:20 PM
Dec 2012

Let's face it, if you were Child, would you turn down all the money that would come with Cruise? Or would you try to hold out for the "perfect" Reacher?

Shit, I'd be there with both hands out saying "Show me the money"!

I bought a couple of Reacher books, and went "Meh, ok". Right now, I'm reading and re-reading Jim Butcher's Harry Dresden, and Jack McDevitt's Alex Benedict.

Paladin

(28,275 posts)
19. I Met Child At A Book-Signing A Few Years Back.
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 03:46 PM
Dec 2012

He's an absolutely charming guy, very funny. (And tall, as well: 6'4".) Somebody asked him how he came up with the Reacher character, and he said he had grown weary of heroes in mystery books with complex personalities, personal burdens, and assorted quirks. And thus was Jack Reacher created.....

trof

(54,256 posts)
31. Reacher = modern day Lone Ranger
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 06:32 PM
Dec 2012

Stranger comes into town, fixes dire problem, moves on.
Who WAS that (masked) man?

Orrex

(63,224 posts)
18. Is the character's height actually important?
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 03:29 PM
Dec 2012

I have it on good authority that Jeff Bridges has both of his eyes, yet he was somehow able to play the one-eyed Rooster Cogburn to perfection.

They should have a name for that sort of thing, when a person pretends to be someone else on stage or screen.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
22. In the novels...
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 05:15 PM
Dec 2012

Reacher intimidates people with his size and bearing. And that is a big part of the story.

Rob H.

(5,352 posts)
34. Yep.
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:43 PM
Dec 2012

His height is something that's mentioned constantly in the books because his sheer size makes him intimidating to other people even when he's not trying to be.

Orrex

(63,224 posts)
35. I dunno
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:31 PM
Dec 2012

As far as characterization goes, that would ultimately seem like a minor point IMO, even if it comes up frequently in the books.

Rob H.

(5,352 posts)
33. I remember someone suggesting Kevin Durand
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:25 PM
Dec 2012

on a movie forum a while back. He's younger than Reacher would be IRL, but he's 6'6". He also has experience playing military men and was more buff than this last time I saw him in anything:



I've also seen Armie Hammer (6'5&quot suggested but he's way too young to play Reacher, imo, given that he's only 26. Then again, as I type this there's currently a sofa-frolicking homunculus portraying an ass-kicking man-mountain, so it would still have been less ridiculous than it turned out to be. (Reacher also has blue eyes and dirty blond hair in the books, fwiw.)

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
38. That's easy to fix.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:24 PM
Dec 2012

Make the sets smaller, as they used to do for Alan Ladd (so that he would look bigger). Also cast even shorter actors for other characters, and choose camera angles so that nobody's head is above Cruise's.

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