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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsIt's sad and pathetic that my longest relationship to date has been with my cat.
But at least animals can't break my heart they way humans can. Sure, they die eventually, but people have many other ways of letting my down.
Don't mind me, I'm only feeling sorry for myself this morning.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)right there with you this morning. and internet dating is so fucking weird. men are strange animals.
*sigh*
alarimer
(16,245 posts)It makes me want to run and hide.
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alarimer
(16,245 posts)I've gotten propositioned a number of times though. So I still got it. Maybe. Whatever it might be.
Seriously, though, I know they check it out, but nobody ever leaves a message. In two months, I may have gotten 1-2 emails.
I'm pretty sure it must be my photo, which I actually thought was a pretty good one of me, but apparently I'm not attractive enough or something.
Sweet Freedom
(3,995 posts)I've heard a lot of guys say they are afraid that photos are photoshopped. I have two close up pictures, a fulll-length body shot and one from the waist up. I also included the date on them all and made sure they were less than 6 months old (2 were taken in the last 30 days).
alarimer
(16,245 posts)But it's hard to take pictures of myself. I have to use the camera on a timer and I'd rather do it outdoors, but I feel silly.
Sweet Freedom
(3,995 posts)Personally, I really don't like having my picture taken, so I rarely do it. I just happened to need them for my hobby (acting), so I had a bunch taken for that.
Maybe have a trusted friend look at your profile and see if there's anything they think you should update. (I asked my very best friend to look at mine because I wanted to make sure I was being very positive and honest about who I was, but not coming across as overconfident.)
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Sweet Freedom
(3,995 posts)Last week was my birthday and my "gift" to myself was to join on online dating service. What a shitty gift.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)weeded out a bunch though so, this time around is not "too bad"
Sweet Freedom
(3,995 posts)I put in my profile that if you watch Fox news, we aren't a match.
I'm going to stick it out just a while longer because a couple of thoughtful guys have contacted me, so maybe there is hope.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)sendero
(28,552 posts)... I met my wonderful wife, we've been double-plus happy for 15+ years, on an online dating site. Before I met her, I met another incredible woman that I would have been with longer except we just lived too far apart and because be both had kids neither of us could move.
Now you might say "yeah but I'm looking for a guy" and I would say "yeah but my wife must think I'm a pretty good catch"
Meeting people online is different than other methods but just as good. Follow the rules and you will find someone!
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)They completely love each other and have endured a LOT of times where they were really far apart for a LONG time.
Funny thing is that I like him too! He's cute, adores her, and they have a lovely mutually respectful relationship (and she turned him on to cats so now they have TWO!)
Sweet Freedom
(3,995 posts)Yay! There's hope!!
dawg
(10,624 posts)I'm like Alarimer. I just want to run and hide.
But someday I will want to try again. And seeing how I live in the middle of nowhere, I guess I'll eventually try online dating too.
What can I do to stand out in a positive way? What would make me a rare find? What are the mistakes most men make?
I already know not to post a shirtless bathroom mirror pic.
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dawg
(10,624 posts)Here's where I would fail:
1. I'm still separated, but by the time I'm ready to do this I'll pass that one.
2. If she offers to split the bill, I will protest once. If she persists then we split it.
3. I'm not calling to see that she got home. That is stereotypical "dawg" behavior. That is how I treated my ex, and she grew to take all of my kindness and concern for granted. I'll still be kind and concerned, but, sadly, I'm not going to let it show as much as I did in the past.
Othewise, I'm gold Jerry! Gold!
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dawg
(10,624 posts)I would ask for the second date.
Calling to see that she got home just reminds me too much of how I treated my ex. And I figure, New Woman managed to get home by herself for 45 years or so before she met me, so I'm sure she can still do it now. Don't get me wrong, I think it's sweet to make that call, I just don't want to come across as overprotective and smothering right from the start.
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dawg
(10,624 posts)and that I need to back away from it some.
Some good women really like to be treated the old-fashioned way. Other good women are fiercely independent and take offense if you insist on paying the bill and follow up with them too closely.
On at least one occasion, I have had a female friend look me in the eye and ask, "And how old am I now?". Implying, of course, that she was a grown-ass woman and able to take care of herself. She was smiling a big smile at the time, though. So on some level she probably did appreciate whatever concern it was that I was showing. (I think I was saying how worried I would get if she stepped too close to a ledge.)
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dawg
(10,624 posts)In a strange way, your thinking on this mirrors mine somewhat. Life is too short to be mistreated again. I think I'm trying to protect myself from that as well.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)dawg
(10,624 posts)I know you plan to delete, so I just wanted to shoehorn that in while I can still reply.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Sweet Freedom
(3,995 posts)especially if it's a nighttime date. I think it's thoughtful (and I'm pretty darn independent). It doesn't mean I need a man to save me, it just means someone cares enough that I'm well.
Maybe you could ask at the end of the date if she would like you to call or text and make sure she got home safely? You could even say, "I know you're a grown woman and can take of yourself, but I've kept you out late (or the weather is bad, or there's crazy people on the road), so would you like me to call and make sure you made it home safely?"
Sweet Freedom
(3,995 posts)Do be positive. Some guys have headlines that read "why is this so difficult" or "tired of blah, blah, blah....". I don't even look at those.
Don't jump on the bandwagon before a woman has finished creating her profile. Between the time I registered and finished, 30 guys had contacted me (which seemed desperate and shallow because they didn't even know anything about me.)
Do post close up, clear pictures of just yourself. I can't see the real you if you are wearing a hat, sunglasses, holding a fish, a baby, another woman or in a group of guys. And have someone else take the picture. The internet has too many pictures of men looking down on their phone camera.
Be honest, yet positive about who you are. I hate boats and can't tolerate the heat, so my profile says something like "Sorry, boat lovers, I burn like a lobster." Goodbye boat lovers.
Pay attention to who she is. If she's pretty, but you have nothing in common, move on. If you do contact someone, write something thoughtful. My inbox is filled with messages that say (I kid you not), "Hey there, pretty lady" Um...ew. I only respond to guys if I can tell they read and comprehended my profile (and in those instances, I respond even if it's a "no". At least they treated me like a person.
If you are truly looking for a long-term relationship, treat the dating that way. First date should be afternoon coffee (or something similar) to get to know one another. Some guy wrote me this whole planned out of evening of romance. I don't even know him. It felt creepy.
If you have kids, mention them. I like kids. I have one. I don't want any more of my own and I don't want to raise someone else's. However, I don't mind if a guy has a kid in high school. On the other hand, I have a guy friend who has three little boys and some women think that's awesome. Either way, your actual and potential children are important.
Hope this helps!
Good luck
dawg
(10,624 posts)Thanks. Those sound like good tips to me. I am always interested in hearing an intelligent woman's point of view.
That made me laugh me loud!
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)I was getting the "hey pretty lady" type of posts on my Facebook profile, and they were always from guys who came off as either creepy or desperate. (Going into the whole hearts and flowers routine with someone you don't know smells of desperation. Feeling sorry for one's self is a turn-off. It says that you're all take and no give.)
Then I put on a notice on my profile that said that I friend only people I have met personally or know through professional connections. That has cut down on the "hey pretty lady" or "heaven is missing an angel" posts, although one pops up every six months or so.
You really do have to be careful.
One of my friends just barely avoided being scammed by a guy who seemed utterly sincere and convincing--until he asked her to lend him $50, which, if anything he had written was true, he should not have needed.
Another friend found that an Internet honey who was supposed to be "the one" was emotionally abusive to an astounding degree.
I did the Internet/personals dating routine several times and got one short-term relationship, which I ended after realizing that our ideas of the ideal way of life differed too sharply, and one lasting friendship out of it. The other men I met were either boring ("What do you do in your spare time?" "Nothing much." or weird.
My advice to men who are looking for women is to go where the women are (libraries, yoga classes or any other classes offered by your local gym, performing and visual arts events, organized nature hikes, etc. wherever you think your kind of woman would be during her leisure hours) and strike up non-threatening conversations in a casual, friendly way. Don't say, "Oh, then she'll just want to be friends." That's true of random women. But you don't want random women. You want someone who is right for you, and if she is right for you, then she will want to be more than friends. It's not like the movies. You can't just drop corny lines and expect random women to fall into your arms. (Oh, and there's nothing wrong with women friends. They may have a friend who is right for you. My two best relationships came through introductions from friends.)
raccoon
(31,112 posts)Longest relationship with a guy, from first date to last time I saw him, 8 years.
Sweet Freedom
(3,995 posts)Hey, I had a cat that lived to be 20 and a marriage that lasted just as long.
I really miss the cat.
All kidding aside, maybe this year will bring you someone great!
ElbarDee
(61 posts)In my life the ex left and took half of my stuff and all my faith in myself. The cat remains and brings me dead offerings to the back door.
Funny how real love and respect stayed with me.
dawg
(10,624 posts)I would say that mine did the same, except I think it's pretty much something I allowed her to take.
By the way, something's wrong with your avatar. Your University of Georgia "G" is all green and yellow! Yuck!
dawg
(10,624 posts)Don't feel bad about it at all.
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)I know the feeling all too well.
dawg
(10,624 posts)I cried over both of them. But it's been years since I have cried over my kitty-pal, although I do still miss him.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)"The more I know about most people, the more I like my cats." I wasn't always so misanthropic.
alarimer
(16,245 posts)Although I have to say my relationship with the cat is pretty one-sided. As long as I keep feeding him, he will deign to keep me company.
truegrit44
(332 posts)alarimer
(16,245 posts)Or fend for himself. I do require than potential partners have enough working brain cells to make themselves a sandwich.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)The longest relationship I've had is with a cat. She's gone now though.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)...has been (no kidding) with my dentist. Since 1983. Longer than my kids who were born in late '83 and '84 and certainly longer than my first marriage. He's the best. A perfectionist (sometimes to a fault) but NEVER suggests procedures that are not necessary. I once jokingly asked him if he had considered a different medical profession. His name is Dr. Butts.
Anyone in Northern VA that needs a dentist, let me know. He only takes new clients by referral. He' kinda "anal" about that.
dawg
(10,624 posts)Or Harry?
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)..but there is a gynaecologist in Northern VA named Harry Beaver. I'm not joking. Do a Google search!!!
dawg
(10,624 posts)I don't have to worry about getting fired. But I don't need to be distracted for the rest of the afternoon either!
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)sakabatou
(42,165 posts)Same for me, though my relationship with my girlfriend is ongoing.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)people die eventually too.
alarimer
(16,245 posts)They love us and don't decide they like someone better, at least most of the time. They don't make promises they can't keep, talk behind your back (as far as I know) or tell us we're getting fat.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,786 posts)But I managed to stay married for only 9 years.