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Having a few cold ones with Will Shakespeare. Ask us anything. (Original Post) Aristus Jan 2013 OP
What is Will like when he gets a little tipsy? Denninmi Jan 2013 #1
Yeah, he's a fun drunk. Aristus Jan 2013 #2
Well, maybe I should study up on his material. Denninmi Jan 2013 #3
Brush up your Shakespeare. Aristus Jan 2013 #11
The bard of Stratford on Avon!!! elleng Jan 2013 #30
elleng, Will says: Aristus Jan 2013 #36
Quite right, but tell THAT to COLE PORTER!!! elleng Jan 2013 #37
"I? Explain myself to a servant who carries coals? Ne're! Not once!" Aristus Jan 2013 #42
HA! WHO said all that, Sir??? elleng Jan 2013 #43
Will did. Aristus Jan 2013 #45
(((WILL))) elleng Jan 2013 #46
Falstaff. My dear old man of the castle. Aristus Jan 2013 #48
Speaking for myself as a brunette... Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #44
"The color in thy face, Aristus Jan 2013 #47
"As the grim lion fawneth o'er his prey" Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #49
You're batting a thousand, LFR. Aristus Jan 2013 #50
Oh, lucky you, my dear Aristus! Drinking with THE William Shakespeare! CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2013 #4
Oh yes, CalPeg. She is my own "Dark Lady". Aristus Jan 2013 #6
I remember about his Dark Lady's breath.......yes I do! CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2013 #7
Yeah. He said it "reeks". Aristus Jan 2013 #9
Wow, I'm so proud libodem Jan 2013 #5
Uh-oh. Aristus Jan 2013 #8
See if he wouldn't mind synopsizing 'Love's Labour's Won' for us pokerfan Jan 2013 #10
Will says: "Never finished it, lad". Aristus Jan 2013 #13
Ask him if he really wrote all those plays, or if he bought a few or had ghostwriters. Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #12
Oh, now you've done it! Aristus Jan 2013 #16
Well, okay, then. I accept that totally. Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #39
Will says: "Ah! Go' Bless you, love!" Aristus Jan 2013 #40
Will, what is Aristus like when he gets a little tipsy? nolabear Jan 2013 #14
No, No, No, Will! Get away from the keyboard! Aristus Jan 2013 #17
<<<batting eyelashes>>> nolabear Jan 2013 #31
Are you batting your lashes at me or at Will? Aristus Jan 2013 #34
Wherefore art he Romeo? LiberalEsto Jan 2013 #15
Romeo was a Montague, and the enemy of Juliet's family, the Capulets. Aristus Jan 2013 #18
Well now we are all a little wiser libodem Jan 2013 #20
I know what wherefore means. LiberalEsto Jan 2013 #22
Okay. Here goes: When two Montagues love each other very much... Aristus Jan 2013 #23
Yes, but why did they have to name him Romeo? LiberalEsto Jan 2013 #24
Good evening Aristus! Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #19
Will just brightened up! Aristus Jan 2013 #21
Please tell Will... Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #25
"Well done, lass! Aristus Jan 2013 #26
He should. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #28
Did Olphelia really kill herself Sedona Jan 2013 #27
"Oy! It's a mystery, innit?" Aristus Jan 2013 #29
Careful Sedona! Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #32
It's you, LFR! Aristus Jan 2013 #35
Will words do have ways to take many a Shrew! Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #38
He has. He has. Aristus Jan 2013 #41
What the fug was up with Poe's raven? struggle4progress Jan 2013 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jan 2013 #51
Can do. Aristus Jan 2013 #52
So, how are the two of you doing this morning? Denninmi Jan 2013 #53
I'm getting ready to start work. Aristus Jan 2013 #54
Ah, he's sleeping it off. Denninmi Jan 2013 #55
As I stated in another post... Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #56

Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
1. What is Will like when he gets a little tipsy?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:50 PM
Jan 2013

Is he a fun guy when he's had a few? My guess is that he is.

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
2. Yeah, he's a fun drunk.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:55 PM
Jan 2013

When he's had a few, he'll go up to a woman ( with dark hair; always with dark hair. Never seen him with a blonde) and start reciting a few of his sonnets. Sounds cheesy, but he'll have them eating out of his hand.

His words are pure music...

Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
3. Well, maybe I should study up on his material.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:59 PM
Jan 2013

You know, couldn't hurt. I have a penchant for brunettes myself.

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
11. Brush up your Shakespeare.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:16 PM
Jan 2013

Start quoting him now.
Brush up your Shakespeare
And the women you will wow.


I have that on good authority...

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
42. "I? Explain myself to a servant who carries coals? Ne're! Not once!"
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:32 AM
Jan 2013

Okay, he's swinging his mug around indignantly; he's spilling most of it...

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
44. Speaking for myself as a brunette...
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:40 AM
Jan 2013

That the words of Shakespeare does have a way to turn my head. Something about words does make many a woman swoon.

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
47. "The color in thy face,
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:45 AM
Jan 2013

That even for anger makes the lily pale,
And the red rose blush at her own disgrace,
Shall plead for me and tell my loving tale."

Wow, LFR. The whole tavern just grew silent. You can hear a pin drop. Will is serenading you!

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,640 posts)
4. Oh, lucky you, my dear Aristus! Drinking with THE William Shakespeare!
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:59 PM
Jan 2013

You'd better be careful...

It seems to me that your wife is dark haired........isn't she?

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
6. Oh yes, CalPeg. She is my own "Dark Lady".
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:05 PM
Jan 2013

She has fresh breath, though. Will's legendary Dark Lady...her breath...well, you don't even want to know...

libodem

(19,288 posts)
5. Wow, I'm so proud
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:03 PM
Jan 2013

I've always wanted to meet other DU'ers. Go. Cold. Ones.

To be or not to be....that is the question?

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
8. Uh-oh.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:12 PM
Jan 2013

Will's not fond of the reference. It's like when Beethoven complained about the popularity of his Moonlight Sonata. "Everyone is clamoring for that c-sharp minor sonata! Surely I have written better things!"

Will is always reminding people: "To be or not to be is about suicide!"

Sorry...he's upset because his sonnet seduction was interrupted...

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
13. Will says: "Never finished it, lad".
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:24 PM
Jan 2013

"I penned a foul paper" - what Will calls a rough draft - "and showed to Henslowe and the lads, but we couldn't make a go of it. Henslowe just marked it down to pad the repertory. If the playgoers thought we had more plays than The Swan or The Rose, they 'ould drop their coins in our box office."

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
12. Ask him if he really wrote all those plays, or if he bought a few or had ghostwriters.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:22 PM
Jan 2013

There is the theory that no one person could have written all the different plays supposedly by Shakespeare. The theory is that Shakespeare had at least one ghostwriter, likely an aristocrat who was not allowed, by society's standards, to write plays. It just wasn't done by aristocrats. The theory is very detailed about why one person didn't write them all. And if one person likely wrote most of them, that person was likely an aristocrat, which Will was not.

It's also been guessed that maybe Will bought one or more of the plays from an unknown.

Ask Will that, please! Enquiring minds want to know.

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
16. Oh, now you've done it!
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:34 PM
Jan 2013

He just threw his tankard across the tavern!

Will has answered this before, and his responses are in my journal.

It was pretty common in Will's time for playwright's to collaborate on their material. Will didn't like to write plays 'by committee', so he usually wrote alone. He did help out John Fletcher on The Two Noble Kinsmen, Henry VIII, and Vortigern, "And the stupid sod lost the manuscript!" Will adds.

But Will wrote all the plays attributed to him. He had quite an exceptional education at the Stratford Grammar School. The curriculum would challenge a modern college student.

And as far as them needing a highly intelligent, educated noble to write the plays? Please.

Will says: "That's a larf. Look at English nobles today!"

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
39. Well, okay, then. I accept that totally.
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:13 AM
Jan 2013

Tell Will I apologize. The theory confused me, is all. I wondered if it could be true. I didn't want to think so. So now I understand. I personally DO think that people in our history are sometimes underestimated by modern people. I am glad to hear that he wrote all the plays attributed to him.

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
40. Will says: "Ah! Go' Bless you, love!"
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:26 AM
Jan 2013

He's getting a little weepy now. He loves it when someone understands him.

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
17. No, No, No, Will! Get away from the keyboard!
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:38 PM
Jan 2013

"Nolabear, lass (odd name, that...) he were a sweet lad when he were in his cups. But Zounds! Does he love to flirt with the lasses!"

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
18. Romeo was a Montague, and the enemy of Juliet's family, the Capulets.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:40 PM
Jan 2013

Juliet is asking why it had to be that her love had to be an enemy. "Wherefore" means why not where.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
20. Well now we are all a little wiser
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:46 PM
Jan 2013

I've always wanted to meet CaliforniaPeggy. I see her up thread.

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
21. Will just brightened up!
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:50 PM
Jan 2013

"More ale in me cup, then! She's HERE!

Lady: I love you more than word can wield the matter.
Dearer than eyesight, space, or liberty
Beyond what can be valued, rich or rare.
No less than life, with health, grace, beauty, honor.
As much as child 'ere loved, or father found.
Beyond all manner of so much....I love you"

Don't trust his words, LFR. He's quoting King Lear.

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
29. "Oy! It's a mystery, innit?"
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:10 PM
Jan 2013

"What do you think, lass?"

He's being enigmatic. Pay no attention...

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
32. Careful Sedona!
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:45 PM
Jan 2013

Will is a ladies man.

You ask him a question. He starts to give you an answer, then invites you over to a quiet table. You find that his words are as intoxicating as the drink he orders for you. As the night continues, you find yourself hanging on every word. They start to become like the air you breath, a sweet necessity.

When the night draws to an end, he takes you to your door. Leaves you with a tender kiss as sweet as his words. You go to bed with his words echoing through your mind. You lay there, your heart refuses to settle. An ache deep within that yearn for more of those sweet words will not let you rest...


Wow, it is getting hot around here or is it just me???

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
35. It's you, LFR!
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:22 AM
Jan 2013

Listen: There's a story that a woman waited backstage for Richard Burbage after a performance of one or another of Will's plays, and asked the stage boy to tell Burbage the she had invited him back to her place. And to call by the name of 'Richard The Lionheart'.

Somehow, Will found out about this, and zipped on over to her house, and had a very nice time after introducing himself as 'Richard'. (The lady in question must have thought the difference in looks was due to stage makeup)

When Burbage showed up at her door, and asked to be admitted by the name of 'Richard the Lionheart', Will sent a message back: "William The Conqueror came before Richard The Lionheart."

Whenever I ask Will if this tale is actually true, he just smiles and says nothing...

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
41. He has. He has.
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:30 AM
Jan 2013

Oh wow! Check this out: Will just announcd to the whole tavern that he's buying a round for the whole house. "I' th'name o' the lady who has stolen me heart! The belle dame by th'name o' 'Liberty Coming Back Anon'!

Cheers, LFR!

Response to Aristus (Original post)

Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
53. So, how are the two of you doing this morning?
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:43 AM
Jan 2013

I hope Will doesn't have a hangover this morning.

Have a good one, guys!

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
54. I'm getting ready to start work.
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:51 AM
Jan 2013

Will is......somewhere......

Ah, the dissolute life of the actor/poet...

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