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(6,581 posts)Is he a fun guy when he's had a few? My guess is that he is.
Aristus
(66,388 posts)When he's had a few, he'll go up to a woman ( with dark hair; always with dark hair. Never seen him with a blonde) and start reciting a few of his sonnets. Sounds cheesy, but he'll have them eating out of his hand.
His words are pure music...
Denninmi
(6,581 posts)You know, couldn't hurt. I have a penchant for brunettes myself.
Aristus
(66,388 posts)Start quoting him now.
Brush up your Shakespeare
And the women you will wow.
I have that on good authority...
elleng
(130,974 posts)Aristus
(66,388 posts)"Sorry, dearest. It is Stratford-Upon-Avon. No worries, love. Cheers!"
elleng
(130,974 posts)OMG!!! IMAGINE THAT! Had to drop a syllable!!!
Aristus
(66,388 posts)Okay, he's swinging his mug around indignantly; he's spilling most of it...
elleng
(130,974 posts)Aristus
(66,388 posts)Just now...
elleng
(130,974 posts)Aristus
(66,388 posts)Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)That the words of Shakespeare does have a way to turn my head. Something about words does make many a woman swoon.
Aristus
(66,388 posts)That even for anger makes the lily pale,
And the red rose blush at her own disgrace,
Shall plead for me and tell my loving tale."
Wow, LFR. The whole tavern just grew silent. You can hear a pin drop. Will is serenading you!
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)The Rape of Lucrece is it not?
Aristus
(66,388 posts)That's me, by the way. Will just shrugs when he hears baseball jargon...
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,640 posts)You'd better be careful...
It seems to me that your wife is dark haired........isn't she?
Aristus
(66,388 posts)She has fresh breath, though. Will's legendary Dark Lady...her breath...well, you don't even want to know...
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,640 posts)Rather like this:
Aristus
(66,388 posts)Well, you would have to know her to understand her considerable charms...
libodem
(19,288 posts)I've always wanted to meet other DU'ers. Go. Cold. Ones.
To be or not to be....that is the question?
Will's not fond of the reference. It's like when Beethoven complained about the popularity of his Moonlight Sonata. "Everyone is clamoring for that c-sharp minor sonata! Surely I have written better things!"
Will is always reminding people: "To be or not to be is about suicide!"
Sorry...he's upset because his sonnet seduction was interrupted...
pokerfan
(27,677 posts)Aristus
(66,388 posts)"I penned a foul paper" - what Will calls a rough draft - "and showed to Henslowe and the lads, but we couldn't make a go of it. Henslowe just marked it down to pad the repertory. If the playgoers thought we had more plays than The Swan or The Rose, they 'ould drop their coins in our box office."
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)There is the theory that no one person could have written all the different plays supposedly by Shakespeare. The theory is that Shakespeare had at least one ghostwriter, likely an aristocrat who was not allowed, by society's standards, to write plays. It just wasn't done by aristocrats. The theory is very detailed about why one person didn't write them all. And if one person likely wrote most of them, that person was likely an aristocrat, which Will was not.
It's also been guessed that maybe Will bought one or more of the plays from an unknown.
Ask Will that, please! Enquiring minds want to know.
Aristus
(66,388 posts)He just threw his tankard across the tavern!
Will has answered this before, and his responses are in my journal.
It was pretty common in Will's time for playwright's to collaborate on their material. Will didn't like to write plays 'by committee', so he usually wrote alone. He did help out John Fletcher on The Two Noble Kinsmen, Henry VIII, and Vortigern, "And the stupid sod lost the manuscript!" Will adds.
But Will wrote all the plays attributed to him. He had quite an exceptional education at the Stratford Grammar School. The curriculum would challenge a modern college student.
And as far as them needing a highly intelligent, educated noble to write the plays? Please.
Will says: "That's a larf. Look at English nobles today!"
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Tell Will I apologize. The theory confused me, is all. I wondered if it could be true. I didn't want to think so. So now I understand. I personally DO think that people in our history are sometimes underestimated by modern people. I am glad to hear that he wrote all the plays attributed to him.
Aristus
(66,388 posts)He's getting a little weepy now. He loves it when someone understands him.
nolabear
(41,987 posts)Aristus
(66,388 posts)"Nolabear, lass (odd name, that...) he were a sweet lad when he were in his cups. But Zounds! Does he love to flirt with the lasses!"
nolabear
(41,987 posts)Aristus
(66,388 posts)LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)I've always wondered.
Aristus
(66,388 posts)Juliet is asking why it had to be that her love had to be an enemy. "Wherefore" means why not where.
libodem
(19,288 posts)I've always wanted to meet CaliforniaPeggy. I see her up thread.
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)I was wondering why he was Romeo.
Aristus
(66,388 posts)LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)Why not Guido? Or Vinnie?
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)And to you to Will!
Aristus
(66,388 posts)"More ale in me cup, then! She's HERE!
Lady: I love you more than word can wield the matter.
Dearer than eyesight, space, or liberty
Beyond what can be valued, rich or rare.
No less than life, with health, grace, beauty, honor.
As much as child 'ere loved, or father found.
Beyond all manner of so much....I love you"
Don't trust his words, LFR. He's quoting King Lear.
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)"I want that glib and oily art. To speak and purpose not."
Aristus
(66,388 posts)Come nigh and I'll give thee a buss on the lips!"
Okay, LFR, I think he liked that!
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)He wrote them after all!
King Lear to answer King Lear!
Sedona
(3,769 posts)or just did she accidentally drown?
Aristus
(66,388 posts)"What do you think, lass?"
He's being enigmatic. Pay no attention...
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)Will is a ladies man.
You ask him a question. He starts to give you an answer, then invites you over to a quiet table. You find that his words are as intoxicating as the drink he orders for you. As the night continues, you find yourself hanging on every word. They start to become like the air you breath, a sweet necessity.
When the night draws to an end, he takes you to your door. Leaves you with a tender kiss as sweet as his words. You go to bed with his words echoing through your mind. You lay there, your heart refuses to settle. An ache deep within that yearn for more of those sweet words will not let you rest...
Wow, it is getting hot around here or is it just me???
Aristus
(66,388 posts)Listen: There's a story that a woman waited backstage for Richard Burbage after a performance of one or another of Will's plays, and asked the stage boy to tell Burbage the she had invited him back to her place. And to call by the name of 'Richard The Lionheart'.
Somehow, Will found out about this, and zipped on over to her house, and had a very nice time after introducing himself as 'Richard'. (The lady in question must have thought the difference in looks was due to stage makeup)
When Burbage showed up at her door, and asked to be admitted by the name of 'Richard the Lionheart', Will sent a message back: "William The Conqueror came before Richard The Lionheart."
Whenever I ask Will if this tale is actually true, he just smiles and says nothing...
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)"And may you prove, sir, master of your art!"
Aristus
(66,388 posts)Oh wow! Check this out: Will just announcd to the whole tavern that he's buying a round for the whole house. "I' th'name o' the lady who has stolen me heart! The belle dame by th'name o' 'Liberty Coming Back Anon'!
Cheers, LFR!
struggle4progress
(118,295 posts)Response to Aristus (Original post)
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Aristus
(66,388 posts)And Will says: "Will do."
Denninmi
(6,581 posts)I hope Will doesn't have a hangover this morning.
Have a good one, guys!
Aristus
(66,388 posts)Will is......somewhere......
Ah, the dissolute life of the actor/poet...
Denninmi
(6,581 posts)The question is, with whom?
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)William Shakespeare is known in history as a ladies man.