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enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 09:28 PM Feb 2013

Any tips of calming a feral cat for capture?

We have a stray - probably a feral - who has been hanging around the house since last summer. We - being complete suckers - started setting out food and water, because he was obviously hungry.

As time has passed, he has gotten more comfortable around us and now comes inside at dinner time to get his food along with our five spoiled felines. They aren't totally impressed with him, but he's not an aggressor and a detente has been achieved.

He will even stay in the house for awhile and appreciates the cat bed we put down for him - but he will not let us near him. Closest we can come is when we're sliding his food dish toward him. Any false move will cause him to skitter away.

We don't really want another cat (yes, I know - we already have another cat . . .) but we do need to catch him so he can be neutered and vaccinated, preferably soon as mating season is almost upon us.

We can borrow a humane trap from the vet and there is a shelter that will do the necessary veterinary care for free, but my concern is that if we do capture him, he'll never forgive us and all the work of getting him more or less settled down will be lost. It feels like a betrayal, almost.

There is also the concern that we'll never get him in the trap because it will be filled with one of our five. They're sweet but not the brightest crayons in the box.

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Any tips of calming a feral cat for capture? (Original Post) enlightenment Feb 2013 OP
There is also the possibility that the cat will be so glad to be back home, he'll forgive you. Betsy Ross Feb 2013 #1
That would be the best response. enlightenment Feb 2013 #5
Ok. I had a feral cat many years ago. Be prepared to sit for hours. Waiting. In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #2
We're thinking about that approach, but I'm not sure we have time at this point. enlightenment Feb 2013 #6
Forcing the issue will be stressful, no matter what.... hlthe2b Feb 2013 #3
Well, I'd prefer to wait, but he's got enlightenment Feb 2013 #7
You MUST use a carrying case RILib Feb 2013 #19
Assuming they are TRANSPORTING, yes, I AGREE hlthe2b Feb 2013 #23
We do need to transport him, enlightenment Feb 2013 #31
We took one in when she was 5 weeks old. It took two years for her to adapt. Gorp Feb 2013 #4
All our cats are rescues, but only one was an "off the street" enlightenment Feb 2013 #8
We've only bought two ever - both brothers. One died a long time ago. Gorp Feb 2013 #9
I don't think I've ever bought - no, enlightenment Feb 2013 #12
We had a year-old disappear. My daughter got him when she was 3. Gorp Feb 2013 #24
That's exactly what I did, borrowed a have-a-heart trap from the vet. Rhiannon12866 Feb 2013 #10
Thanks for your story, enlightenment Feb 2013 #11
She was never all that comfortable with anyone but me Rhiannon12866 Feb 2013 #13
don't have the litter box close to the food or water RILib Feb 2013 #20
Good point! The mistake I made was putting the litter box on the other side of the room Rhiannon12866 Feb 2013 #21
Feliway? grasswire Feb 2013 #14
I used that, too, once I brought my rescued cat inside. Great idea! Rhiannon12866 Feb 2013 #18
Lived on a mountain and had feral cat that would raid my bird feeders. bamademo Feb 2013 #15
Having used the traps, KT2000 Feb 2013 #16
Well, you've definitely put me off the idea of a trap. enlightenment Feb 2013 #32
I caught and neutered a feral cat and he's sleeping on my bed right now womanofthehills Feb 2013 #17
I've captured many feral cats... zanana1 Feb 2013 #22
The cat's I've trapped have never come back Major Nikon Feb 2013 #26
If he's coming in the house and hanging with your crew already, you have another cat. davsand Feb 2013 #25
Thanks, Laura - enlightenment Feb 2013 #34
Looks like you've got some good advice. Here's an idea: Bertha Venation Feb 2013 #27
Try to get through, but accept the possibility he'll never be "tamed." Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #28
I completely understand your situation. Loryn Feb 2013 #29
I have trapped 10 feral cats in my neighborhood . . . fleur-de-lisa Feb 2013 #30
Sardines. Packed in oil. Moondog Feb 2013 #33
Cats aren't people. harmonicon Feb 2013 #35
Well, enlightenment Feb 2013 #37
It's easy to anthropomorphize pets, but it's not accurate. harmonicon Feb 2013 #38
Yes, it's easy - enlightenment Feb 2013 #39
My point is, don't torture yourself about it. harmonicon Feb 2013 #40
Oh, I will - enlightenment Feb 2013 #41
Catnip Spray, benld74 Feb 2013 #36

Betsy Ross

(3,147 posts)
1. There is also the possibility that the cat will be so glad to be back home, he'll forgive you.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 09:34 PM
Feb 2013

I adopted a shelter cat in the month of October. You could barely pet him without being bitten or scratched or both. In the spring, we had him boarded at the vet while we were out of town for four days. When we picked him up and brought him home, he was a new, loving kitty.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
5. That would be the best response.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 10:08 PM
Feb 2013

I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Nothing makes me feel guiltier than causing a critter stress - regardless of what sort it is.

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
2. Ok. I had a feral cat many years ago. Be prepared to sit for hours. Waiting.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 09:37 PM
Feb 2013

Find a place not too close to the cat bed.
Have some tuna fish on a plate in your lap. and wait.
Do not reach out to the cat. It will come to you.

I hope you can remove all five to another room while you gain the feral (name?) cat's trust and love.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
6. We're thinking about that approach, but I'm not sure we have time at this point.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 10:15 PM
Feb 2013

I really do think we need to capture him soon because I don't want to find a litter of kittens on my doorstep with a sign reading

"This is your fault!
signed
The female down the street

We call him Courtyard Cat right now, because we have a courtyard and that's where he started hanging out this past summer. CC for short.

hlthe2b

(102,279 posts)
3. Forcing the issue will be stressful, no matter what....
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 09:38 PM
Feb 2013

But it sounds like it really isn't practical to take the 12 week (or more) "build the trust" approach.

If you really need to capture and transport soon, you best bet may be the big blanket/heavy towel thrown over him while inside a smaller room, with your husband helping to block his escape and then scooping him up in that and more towels blankets to pretty much apply a "baby-like" swaddle, if you can. the firm wrap will somewhat calm him and allow you to transport, while enough excess blanket around the mouth will keep your hands safe from any errant biting. But, you pretty much need to be ready to hold him and transport him then. Alternately, I guess you could transfer him in the blanket to a cage, but the process will likely have to be repeated to remove him when you get him to his destination.

I have seen feral cats calm down after a short time, all swaddled in their "blankie" and it does seem kinder than a "drop-door" trap cage or squeeze cage that scares the living "catnip" out of them...

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
7. Well, I'd prefer to wait, but he's got
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 10:23 PM
Feb 2013

a set of nuts that look like they could populate half the county. I noticed this evening that he also seems to have a scratch over one eye that could use some attention. He really is a sweet kitty and I think he's fairly young because he just started getting that "tomcat" look around the neck - he didn't have it a few months ago. Hard to tell by size; he's smaller than our monsters, but none of our males is less than 12 pounds (the biggest is about 20 and three feet long). He's got really short legs and a long body - like a dachshund . . .

The blanket approach sounds slightly more kind than the traps - I don't like the traps, although I understand their necessity.

I've swaddled hysterical cats before, though never a feral. We'll make a plan and give it a shot.
Thanks!

 

RILib

(862 posts)
19. You MUST use a carrying case
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:03 AM
Feb 2013

not just try to transport him wrapped in towels or a blanket. The possibility of his escaping and getting lost in a new neighborhood is very high with just the towels and blankets approach.

hlthe2b

(102,279 posts)
23. Assuming they are TRANSPORTING, yes, I AGREE
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:16 AM
Feb 2013

--especially given they are not accustomed to the whole process nor trained to restrain fearful or aggressive animals. It was not clear whether they were having someone come to the house to retrieve him or not. Certainly they can hold the cat swaddled in towels or blanket, pending someone's arrival in their own home. But, yes, I agree on the transport issue. A tightly swaddled, fearful cat won't escape in the arms of someone trained to do so, but a more loosely wrapped kitty held by someone less accustomed to the process very easily could.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
31. We do need to transport him,
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:51 PM
Feb 2013

so we'll transfer him to a carrier. We have one that is larger and quite old - it opens on the side and it's much easier to ease a recalcitrant kitty into the box. I do have some experience with that; a couple of ours grow about twelve legs when we try to get them in the carrier.

 

Gorp

(716 posts)
4. We took one in when she was 5 weeks old. It took two years for her to adapt.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 09:46 PM
Feb 2013

She's a laid back domesticated cat now (almost 15, actually).

Just be patient. If need be, wear forearm-length leather gloves when trying to handle him. As long as all of the indoor cats have been vaccinated for rabies and FLV, you should be fine. Just move slowly.

One thing they all like is the "coochie coochie coo, good kiddie widdy, wanna treat?" thing. Even ferral cats respond to that. Then again, they are prone to biting your hand off.

Just try to be patient and let him self-integrate into the herd. I recently placed a ferral (major cuddle) with one of my nieces. He's happy and she's happy. They were made for each other.

Just take your time and get him to trust you. If a cat doesn't trust you, you don't exist.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
8. All our cats are rescues, but only one was an "off the street"
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 10:26 PM
Feb 2013

rescue and he wasn't a feral. They're all vaccinated so I'm not worrying about that - I just don't want to stress out this little guy.

He does respond to us; he's just so skittish.

I'm going to try the swaddle approach, once a plan is in place, and will report back unless I die of massive blood loss.

 

Gorp

(716 posts)
9. We've only bought two ever - both brothers. One died a long time ago.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 10:33 PM
Feb 2013

The other brother is almost 16 and still in good health. He's a cuddle. The other cats in our house are "FREE KITTENS" sorts.

Just be patient. He'll warm up to you. Like I said, I helped place a ferral with my niece and they're best of friends now. Some adapt and others don't. Just keep your faith in him up and be positive in your dealings with him. Treats help. They like chipped turkey better than commercial "treats".

You just need to gain his trust. Once you do, you own him, well, in reality that means he owns you. That's how human-cat relationships exist. Cats aren't pets - they have servants.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
12. I don't think I've ever bought - no,
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 10:46 PM
Feb 2013

I take that back. I did buy one from a pet store once because he looked so pathetic I couldn't stand it. Only had him for a few weeks and then he got sick - feline leuk. It was awful and sad.

This fella has progressed a lot in the last few weeks, so I'm hopeful he won't freak completely when we take him to the vet and then hate us forever. That would be awful and sad, too.

 

Gorp

(716 posts)
24. We had a year-old disappear. My daughter got him when she was 3.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:44 AM
Feb 2013

The only reason I went to a pet store is because she was taking the loss extremely hard and I couldn't find any "free kitten" ads in the papers. The one I really wanted to pick was quiet whereas the one I picked for her was climing the door to get my attention. I mentioned the other one to my wife and shortly afterward she went and got him for me. I was mourning as well as I'd just put down my dog (old age).

Purchased or not, they worked out perfectly. I've had sibling cats before and still do and I firmly believe that littermates are the best way to go with multiples.

Rhiannon12866

(205,405 posts)
10. That's exactly what I did, borrowed a have-a-heart trap from the vet.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 10:36 PM
Feb 2013

I fed this cat for four months in my side yard and got to sitting there so she's get used to me. I got advice from a woman who works with the vet office with ferals and brings them inside herself. She suggested that I use something odiferous to get her into the trap, like tuna, "human chicken," or sardines. Tuna worked for me. I was advised to keep moving the trap closer and closer to the food I left, so the cat would get used to it being there. When I finally had her, I brought her straight to the vet.

I got to panicking when the weather got bad, though I now wished I'd tried it sooner. The poor cat had to be suffering outdoors.

I got a book, "The Stray Cat Handbook," to learn how to handle things when I brought her home. I also sent for articles from Alley Cat Allies, and they are a wonderful resource.

I was advised to keep her bed/food/litter box on the same side of the room, so she wouldn't have to cross the room to get to them. Fortunately, I had a large room at the back of the house and could keep the door closed. They said to initially restrict her to one room, so she could get used to it and have an enclosed room where she could hide.

I also got a cat home, kind of a plush igloo type of thing that she could use as a bed and was also her safe place to hide. She really did well, got used to me, was much better after she had dental surgery at the vet, must have been in pain, poor little thing. She became almost a lap cat when she felt better, would look out the window, but never wanted to go out again. I know she felt so much better to be warm and safe.

Good luck and let us know how it goes! Sounds like you're already ahead of the game since your cat is already somewhat used to you...

Rhiannon12866

(205,405 posts)
13. She was never all that comfortable with anyone but me
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 11:29 PM
Feb 2013

And required my friend who has caught cats for the SPCA to catch her in my house the first time I took her back to the vet. They sedated her to examine her properly. But, over time, she did calm down a whole lot, especially after the dental surgery.

From what the feral cat lady told me, I'm guessing that, like mine, yours isn't really a feral. She told me that if my cat was truly a feral, I wouldn't have seen her, let alone let me sit by her and talk to her. She said that my cat sounded like a former house cat who had been abandoned and "lost trust."

And it turned out that she was exactly right. I later learned from my next door neighbor that she had fed this cat, too. She believed she belonged to the woman in the house behind her who had moved, had numerous cats and this one had somehow gotten away during the move.

I was surprised that the woman hadn't contacted me, since she liked me a lot after I found and returned her small dog who had a habit of getting loose, too... A Yorkie.

And it's great that you've already given your cat a name. That's another thing that the feral cat lady advised me to do, give her a name and keep using it, so she got used to it.

Initially, they assumed my cat was a male, but it turned out she was a spayed female, so I knew then that she had once had a home.

 

RILib

(862 posts)
20. don't have the litter box close to the food or water
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:06 AM
Feb 2013

The cat is likely to avoid one or the other then.

I brought my first feral cat inside and made that mistake. The poor guy "went" in other places in the house and I was at my wits end until I realized Duh, moved the litter box, and he used it right away.

I mean, who eats next to the toilet?

Rhiannon12866

(205,405 posts)
21. Good point! The mistake I made was putting the litter box on the other side of the room
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 07:40 AM
Feb 2013

So she'd have to cross in front of the door to get to it. She normally stuck pretty close to her house/bed and her food was right near it, but having to cross in front of the door, where someone might come in, made her nervous. She was very good about it though.

bamademo

(2,193 posts)
15. Lived on a mountain and had feral cat that would raid my bird feeders.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:05 AM
Feb 2013

He also caught chipmonks that I feed. So I started putting out food. It got cold and I put heating pad and towel on my porch in rocking chair on the porch. One night it started sleeting and he started yowling at my door. I opened it and he came in. I fed him, he got him my lap and purred. Now he is purrcectly domesticated but doesn't like anyone but me and the dogs.

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
16. Having used the traps,
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 02:31 AM
Feb 2013

I would like to suggest that if you do use one, make sure your other cats are shut away.

When the cat enters the trap to eat the food that is at the end of the trap, they step on the lever that closes the door. It is on a strong spring that slams the door shut. It could seriously injure a cat sitting at the back of the trap.

I was trapping multiple cats and it was frightening because they followed each other. It worked out but it was very stressful.

If I were you, I would try to capture the cat inside your house and put him in a cat carrier. Can you close off the room where he eats? You could throw a blanket over him to catch him.
When they are trapped in a trap, they go wild and thrash around sometimes cutting themselves.

Good luck.
They are much less stressed

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
32. Well, you've definitely put me off the idea of a trap.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:54 PM
Feb 2013

That sounds terrifying. He does come in the house, so we'll use the blanket approach and then into a carrier.

womanofthehills

(8,710 posts)
17. I caught and neutered a feral cat and he's sleeping on my bed right now
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 02:56 AM
Feb 2013

I had been leaving dry cat food out for him for a few months, but put some really yummy food in front of a cat carrier and when he was eating, I just pushed him in. After he was neutered, he still stayed around my yard. If you feed him something really good when you bring him home, I doubt he will leave. It took him a few months to come in the house, then about a year to go upstairs and about 2 more yrs to get up onto my bed. Now, he is the king of the house and chases my other cats but he is my favorite and my dog's favorite of my 3 cats. He's a tuxedo cat, he knows his name and comes when I call him.

zanana1

(6,121 posts)
22. I've captured many feral cats...
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:09 AM
Feb 2013

Please don't worry about the cat hating you. First of all, put some really smelly, fishy cat food in the trap. That attract them. After they're either neutered or spayed, they'll be returned to your neighborhood without hatred in their hearts. If he comes into your house, I don't that he is totally feral. I've never known one to do that. Keeps your five kitties in the house (or in another room) when you do this. Best of luck!

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
26. The cat's I've trapped have never come back
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 12:15 PM
Feb 2013

It's only been a couple, but I just borrow the traps from animal control, trap them and let them go. So far the two I've trapped have never come back, but they don't really have a source of food around my house so I'm sure that is part of it.

davsand

(13,421 posts)
25. If he's coming in the house and hanging with your crew already, you have another cat.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 11:50 AM
Feb 2013

If the cats have sorted it out, I'm not sure I'd let him back outside after he comes home from being fixed. You do, already, have that cat. It is never about what we humans want it is about what the cats decide--any cat person knows this to be the reality!



I'd suggest catching the kitty however you can--if it was me, I'd try the live trap from the rescue folks. They know what works. Then I'd take the cat--still in the trap--to the vet for whatever needs doing, including shots, neutering, and any dental work that needs to happen.

Once kitty comes home he needs an escape proof room to himself with his own litter box, food/water and sleep-cave. Make sure the closet doors are closed and that he can't scootch under something to hide. Let him settle down to a routine. Some folks swear by Feliway, others think it is of no use. Can't hurt to try it. EVERY time you go in that room, do it quietly and calmly. No sudden moves, and no loud noises if you can manage it.

Whenever you go in the room in a soft voice say, "Hi, CC" or whatever name you have decided on for the cat, and (THIS IS IMPORTANT!!)) when the cat looks at you, close your eyes and turn your head away without re-opening your eyes. Cats signal aggression with a stare. It confuses hell outta them when they see humans staring at them while they coo and coax them to come. With that eye trick you are mimicking a cat behavior of trust.

After he's calmed down, you need to just go sit still and quietly in that room and ignore the cat for the next few days. Reading works, and I've started to wonder if working on a computer would be ok. (You are sitting still, and you are not paying the cat any mind--works like a magnet on other cats--so who knows--it might work with ferals as well...) Don't look at him! (When you do get busted looking at him, just close your eyes SLOWLY and turn your head away while your eyes are closed the same way you did before.) It is not gonna take long for him to come check you out. Always move slow, always act in a non-aggressive way, always talk softly.

It won't take long. Couple of days and he'll be checking you out, after that, it is quick business to establish a relationship. Don't try to pick the cat up for a long while, and never force him to do much of anything. Please DO consider keeping him in the house exclusively for at least a few months.

Good luck, and bless you for being a caring person who is helping out this kitty!


Laura

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
34. Thanks, Laura -
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:02 PM
Feb 2013

excellent advice. I didn't know about the close eyes/turn head maneuver, though I did know staring was not good. We've brought a lot of cats into the house over the years, so we do understand the solitary confinement aspect.

It'll take some time, but once he's fixed, vaccinated, and checked out for health, we've got time to go at his pace.

Fortunately, the herd has more or less accepted him. He's been exhibiting all of the appropriate "I'm harmless, don't hurt me" behaviors and even accepted the "bless you, my son" paw to the head from our big boy (who is almost twice CC's size) last night.

Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
27. Looks like you've got some good advice. Here's an idea:
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 12:39 PM
Feb 2013

Start by skipping his feeding for one night if you can stand to. I know how difficult that would be, but he needs to be hungry for this to work. The following night at feeding time, don't feed the feral inside. Set the trap with tuna or something really smelly (suggested upthread, too) and set it outside. Hope for the best.

Another suggestion: once you have set the trap, cover it with a towel, and keep the cat covered all the time. From trapped time to vet, and home from vet. It will keep him calmer.

Best of luck!

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
28. Try to get through, but accept the possibility he'll never be "tamed."
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 12:51 PM
Feb 2013

I'd say that after he's fixed if you can keep him in a large enclosure near or in your house for a week or two he will be bonded to it no matter what. He knows where the food is.

Sort of funny story: When I was a kid, we trapped a young "feral" mama kitty and her two babies who were living in a nearby park. We said we'd find homes for them after they were tame. (We already had several cats.) The mama and son became friendly and "domestic" almost immediately. The daughter just wouldn't come around, but of course we'd fallen in love with all three kitties and were happy to have them. Thirteen, fourteen years later the little girl kitty finally came around and would go on our laps and let us pet her. The big joke was "Okay, she's finally tame -- let's find homes for them!" Yeah, right.

Loryn

(944 posts)
29. I completely understand your situation.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 02:07 PM
Feb 2013

Dexter appeared about a year ago. It took months before he let me touch him, but he finally did, and now he comes in at night, and sleeps on, or sometimes next to me. He needs to go to the vet, and I understand how you feel about him not forgiving you, but they have to be spayed/neutered, no two ways about it. I was at the vet this morning with my other cat, and she gave me a sedative to give him on Monday morning. We shall see what happens.

I have taken many feral cats in traps, and had them "fixed" then released them, and continued to feed.

I really have grown to love Dex, and hope he forgives me, but he's going.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
30. I have trapped 10 feral cats in my neighborhood . . .
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:23 PM
Feb 2013

and then taken them to the vet to be spayed/neutered, then released. Every single one of them comes back daily for food. Some of them stayed away for the first day or two, but then came back for dinner.

Two of the males now let me pet them, brush them, and pick them up and one even comes in the house to sleep every night.

Why don't you trap your feral, take him to the vet, and then keep him secluded in a quiet room for a few days? He may not want to leave. But if he does, I bet he will come back for dinner.

Moondog

(4,833 posts)
33. Sardines. Packed in oil.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:55 PM
Feb 2013

That will get them into the cage. After that, well, some will forgive you, some won't.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
35. Cats aren't people.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:30 PM
Feb 2013

Something that will throw itself at a wall to "catch" the light projected from a laser pointer doesn't think of things like betrayal.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
37. Well,
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 11:50 PM
Feb 2013

gotta say I disagree . . . but that comes from a lifetime as a cat servant.


And yes, I've seen them do some pretty silly things.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
38. It's easy to anthropomorphize pets, but it's not accurate.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:12 AM
Feb 2013

It's nice that we want to think these things about them, but their brains just don't work that way, which is pretty damn good, if you ask me. Some of my best friends have been cats, but they're the kind of friends I can pay someone to de-testicle. With my human friends, I couldn't do that, and if I did, they wouldn't be my friends anymore. It's not the same with cats.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
39. Yes, it's easy -
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:45 AM
Feb 2013

and harmless in the long run.

I really don't care if they have a clue what I'm saying when I talk to them - or if they really are responding to their names or just some sort of Pavlovian response. Having them in my life makes my life a better place, and that's all that matters to me.

No, they're not human, but I have to say that's not a bad thing. I do understand what I'm doing, the psychology isn't difficult to grasp at all. I do it willingly and will continue to do so, because it benefits me and doesn't harm them.

You're absolutely right, though - if I attempted to neuter one of my male friends, they wouldn't be my friend anymore.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
40. My point is, don't torture yourself about it.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 09:06 AM
Feb 2013

This is one case where you know what's better for them, and their response to it won't be anything like a human's. Just trap the damn cat and take him to the vet!

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
41. Oh, I will -
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:08 PM
Feb 2013

as soon as he decides to come around again . . . not to anthropomorphize or anything, but it almost feels like he knows we're planning his capture (or, alternately, the weather has warmed up and it is baby bird season, so free food doesn't have quite the same allure).

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