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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsSeeking brutal honesty from anyone that doesn't know me personally
Hi everybody. I don't often post, but I sure do appreciate DU for being an anchor of sanity at the end of 2001, and various times since.
to make a long story short, I learned how to play the record player when I was about five years old, and my musical journey since then has seen me recently don the mantle of a professional wandering harper.
I recently put together a profile at bandcamp (a very nifty website for musicians)
and have had an interesting time monitoring the usage statistics information that it provides.
Over a third of the times anyone has listened to one of my tracks, they don't make it past 10 seconds, and this concerns me. The recordings I have up there are the best ones in my possession, but they don't show the range of style that I'm capable of, and I wonder if those tunes might not be the most generally palatable of my repertoire. My friends tell me I'm awesome, but they might be biased a little.
brutal honesty, constructive criticism, even fawning admiration
any of these are welcome.
Such topics as I'm curious about feedback:
What do you think of the pictures I've chosen?
Which of the tunes I have up do you think gives the best first impression?
so, if anyone wishes to pay me a visit
http://thewanderingharper.bandcamp.com
that would be awesome.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,640 posts)I've just finished listening to all your songs, and I want you to know that I think your music is stunning and beautiful.
I have always loved listening to the harp. Your playing did please me a lot. You obviously know your craft very well.
I like the pictures as well. They seemed to fit well with the songs.
As to the best first impression, I cannot say. I listened to Sea Serpent first, and thought it was really splendid.
I cannot imagine why anyone wouldn't make it beyond 10 seconds, unless they really don't like listening to the harp. That just strikes me as odd.
Well done!
Keep 'em coming, OK?
wakemewhenitsover
(1,595 posts)My response to your music was very similar to CaliforniaPeggy's. All of the pieces were peaceful and mysterious, and the photos worked, as well. If I had to pick one tune to lead off with, I might go with "Weeping Willow," but only by a hair. (I found its pauses towards the beginning to be especially intriguing.)
I don't know why anyone would listen to only 10 seconds! Very strange. What where they were expecting? A blues harp?
Terrific stuff!
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Do you have anything that starts out with a little more energy?
I like all three songs. They each have a different flavor to them, which is good.
FrogStatue
(29 posts)but not recorded
Those recordings are over a year old. I noticed the other day how much my skills have sharpened over the last year. Now I just need the wherewithal for a more representative recording session.
frogmarch
(12,154 posts)didnt listen to the entire pieces? I loved them all. Youre a wonderful harper.
I think the pictures fit the pieces well, but the photo of you on Paper Fish is the most interesting picture to me.
Are these studio recordings, or home recordings? The sound quality is excellent. I use twin mics and a Lexicon mixer when I record my Celtic harp at home with Audacity, but the quality still isnt very good.
Again, youre a wonderful harper. Thanks for sharing your music here.
FrogStatue
(29 posts)there were rather a lot of microphones present, I'm not entirely sure what all flavors they were. there were two behind me at about 430 and 730 aimed in the direction of the soundholes. There was one directly above the harp pointed straight down, there was a floor mic a three feet maybe right in front of me.
There may have been one or two others I have forgotten. I'm sure the fellow with the microphones pleased to hear you enjoyed his sound quality.
how did you arrive at frogmarch?
frogmarch
(12,154 posts)wondered if you had a mic pointing at each hand. That's how I record, and it sounds lots better than any other way I've positioned my twin mics, but the sound quality isn't nearly good as the sound quality is in your recordings.
My DU name is the result of wishful thinking and relates to this Photoshop picture of Karl Rove being frogmarched to the slammer.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)well, you're rather talented and the compositions are very good. I see nothing wrong with your picture selections. Really, my first impression though was "oh...it really is harp music" (I do realize that seems like a dumb comment) That might account for all your <10sec. views, it's not something that is going to be palatable to certain people, somewhat a niche music. I mean I like harps, they produce a wide range of sounds and the music is (I don't know? atmospheric?) but it's something I have to be in the mood for. If I was generally browsing music and I stumbled across harp music I'd probably keep going unless I was in the mood for harp.
I'm going to go with your friends on this one, if certain people don't like your music...f**k 'em. Worry about the people that do.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)And then Sea Serpent and, lastly, The Paper Fish. I enjoyed them all, but "The Paper Fish" seemed to have more stops and starts but I still enjoyed it. I like the picture of you with the harp, and think you could do that on all three.
Also, my real last name is Harper, so I am totally qualified!
You are extremely talented and thank you for sharing that.
trueblue2007
(17,228 posts)SUCH GLORIOUS SOUNDS. I AM IN LOVE.
MH1
(17,600 posts)I may have more specific comments later. My main reason for this post is so I can find this thread later. Gotta go back to work now. (and I probably need something more like heavy metal to go with that!)
RZM
(8,556 posts)graywarrior
(59,440 posts)BrendaBrick
(1,296 posts)without a doubt. However, since you asked for honesty, I must say that while overall the tempo of your music is very appealing (and relaxing), what came across to me was just a little wee bit of hesitation on your part to really *milk* each and every note in present form. Ya know? I think it is there FrogStatue - ya just gotta believe in yourself. Don't rush it - OK? Just really A) relax first then B) milk it, as it were without any concern whatsoever as to what other *listeners* might think/feel about your work and just let the musical chips fall where they may ~
See here - that is when raw, naked emotions really play into mix and that only comes when you are willing to be vulnerable - and BELIEVE ME - most folks GET THAT and FEEL THAT from note one...and it is from here that you *suck them in* rather naturally. It is entirely genuine...and believe me, there is NO substitute for generosity. Folks just know when it is real from the getgo - as well as folks just automatically know when its not.
Aside from that, I don't really feel that the graphics pair particularly well with your style and give your talent and music adequate justice. Your style seems to suggest a rather relaxed fluidity which might be hampered by such stoic graphics.
For me, when I listened to your music...I wanted to see actually SEE something equally fluid to pair it with. A lava lamp? A deep-sea picture of corals swaying? A big wind gust across a prairie? Just something natural to compliment your talent.
I really do think and feel that you already have the basic stuff already in place to begin with. Without a doubt. The detailed stuff I am talking about is all about merely tweaking your talent that is obviously already there to begin with into maybe a much more coherent and understandable, graphic form is all.
Bottom line is this: If you were to listen to your music in a semi-dream state - what would you most likely to want to see/feel/experience as a result?
If you can articulate that, then I would say that you are well on your way to at least bringing a portion of that into fruition!
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)I listened to all of "The Paper Fish" and bookmarked the page so I can listen to the others later. There is one criticism I have and it isn't about your skills - it is the bass/treble balance. The way it was recorded (at least that song) has a "tinny" tone to it. The mixer should emphasize a little more of the bass and mid-range. I don't have a clue what equipment you used to record it, but if there's a way to adjust it that is my suggestion. The song is beautiful and your playing is skillful. Have you recorded a CD?
FrogStatue
(29 posts)It occurred to me the other day that I have enough "original" material to do a pretty good one. Now it's a matter of picking out individual tunes from the swirl of music that comes through me, and rehearsing them, and acquiring the funds or otherwise wherewithal for recording and such.
dembotoz
(16,808 posts)not really my style but very nice.
trof
(54,256 posts)To me, they are very relaxing.
Something I'd like to hear during a massage.
In fact, very similar to what I have heard.
Also, you could have a future in movie sound?
Many scripts call for this type of music.
Best of luck.
FrogStatue
(29 posts)though I have a certain philosophical dilemma calling most or any of what I do original composition.
Even though I'm not sure it would have ever occurred to me on my own, I think I'd love to do sound for movies.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)It really leans too high toward the treble. That's not particularly easy to adjust, but I might suggest using four mics. Two up close with a medium-treble range and two about two feet away at heavy bass adjustment, but a lower overall influence. Set them up for stereo. There's a lot going on in the lower ranges that isn't obvious to an untrained ear.
As far as technique is concerned, you do have a few twanging issues (as most string players do) that I call "fat fingers". I've never played a harp, but I suspect it is either from lightly brushing an already vibrating string or more likely not plucking fast enough (the common cause on a guitar). It doesn't distract from the music, but you asked for brutal honesty.
"Good shit, Maynard."
FrogStatue
(29 posts)I appreciate it immensely. I'll get to answering questions and such on a more individual basis when my weekend quiets down.