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Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:18 PM Jul 2013

Did you grow up reciting the pledge of allegiance every morning in school?

I did. Up until high school. I was in elementary school 1968 - 1977 (I think).

If you said the pledge, do you remember it before the phrase "under god" were added?

Please post whatever thoughts you have on the subject.


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Did you grow up reciting the pledge of allegiance every morning in school? (Original Post) Bertha Venation Jul 2013 OP
The Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #1
I'm Canadian :P Locut0s Jul 2013 #2
Oh yeah... pipi_k Jul 2013 #8
We used to sing Oh Canada in some grades every morning. ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #31
Yes, I remember when "under God" was added. femmocrat Jul 2013 #3
So do I. Lionel Mandrake Jul 2013 #10
Me too. During the Great Commie Scare of the 50s. trof Jul 2013 #25
so do I SteveG Jul 2013 #28
Not only that, but... pipi_k Jul 2013 #4
Same here - it was a big deal when the Supreme Court banned prayer csziggy Jul 2013 #9
the pledge ... surrealAmerican Jul 2013 #5
I was in grade school frogmarch Jul 2013 #6
I quit in 1964 at age 14. Betsy Ross Jul 2013 #7
I know I did in elementary school, along with a song of some sort petronius Jul 2013 #11
we did the Lords Prayer first then the pledge olddots Jul 2013 #12
The US pledge *and* the bonus Christian Flag Pledge! LadyHawkAZ Jul 2013 #13
I think we said the pledge in grade school, and likely prayed as well- No Vested Interest Jul 2013 #14
we did in elementary school fizzgig Jul 2013 #15
English here so no pledge tjwmason Jul 2013 #16
We said it every Monday morning, that's it. Myrina Jul 2013 #17
I remember JitterbugPerfume Jul 2013 #18
In school, I did that for a different country Xyzse Jul 2013 #19
No. When I was in second grade... Chan790 Jul 2013 #20
Yes bigwillq Jul 2013 #21
My mom was a Jehovah's Witness until they kicked her out. hunter Jul 2013 #22
Not just the pledge...The Lord's Prayer, too. Demoiselle Jul 2013 #23
I only pretended to say it. alarimer Jul 2013 #24
I will not say it and I quit an organization because of it. trof Jul 2013 #26
+1 ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #30
I used to wonder LiberalElite Jul 2013 #27
At least thru Jr Hi. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2013 #29
We said it in grade school. Brigid Jul 2013 #32
5 days a week from 1960 to about 1966.... Rowdyboy Jul 2013 #33
I think "under God" was added just when I started being aware of the words I was reciting. solara Jul 2013 #34
Had to say the pledge throughout grade school and middle school. love_katz Jul 2013 #35

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,482 posts)
1. The Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892...
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:23 PM
Jul 2013

...by Francis Bellamy (1855–1931), who was a Baptist minister, a Christian socialist, and the cousin of socialist utopian novelist Edward Bellamy (1850–1898).

"Under God" was added in 1954.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
2. I'm Canadian :P
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:26 PM
Jul 2013

Didn't have anything to recite. Though we did have sing alongs almost semi religiously in elementary school which I learned to hate.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
8. Oh yeah...
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:54 PM
Jul 2013

We had the sing-alongs too.

The teacher would drag out her pitchpipe and give a toot.

Then 30 kids would start to sing, each in a different key.

We managed to make "God Bless America" sound like a raging catfight

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
31. We used to sing Oh Canada in some grades every morning.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:01 PM
Jul 2013

.
.
.

Now that I'm older and more aware, I never sing it - NEVER!

"Our home and native land"??

I don't think so . . . . . .

Ask the First Nations about that.

CC

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
3. Yes, I remember when "under God" was added.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:30 PM
Jul 2013

It was awkward saying it that way for a while.

Of course, the teachers read the Bible to us and we also said the Lord's Prayer in public school in those days. Things have changed!

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
10. So do I.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:37 PM
Jul 2013

I hated the "under god" part. I thought it spoiled the rhythm of the pledge. Besides, I didn't believe there was any god. I would never say that part of the pledge. Instead, sometimes I would shout, "under NOBODY".

In Junior high, we were required to cover "our" books (which really weren't ours; they belonged to the school). The official book covers had the pledge on the back. I always crossed out the offending phrase, sometimes so violently that there was a hole where the stupid phrase "under god" had been.

I detested Ike for adding that phrase, among other reasons. Ike's speeches were sometimes unintentionally funny, as he would get his words mixed up. I thought he was stupid, but I have changed my mind. I now believe Ike was quite intelligent, just not very good at public speaking. Other than that, my political views haven't changed much since the 1950s.

trof

(54,256 posts)
25. Me too. During the Great Commie Scare of the 50s.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 07:35 PM
Jul 2013

They were godless heathens and we were all god fearin'.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
4. Not only that, but...
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:36 PM
Jul 2013

We also had the Lord's Prayer in school each morning...up till about the 5th or 6th grade, as I recall.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
9. Same here - it was a big deal when the Supreme Court banned prayer
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:34 PM
Jul 2013

One of the teachers still insisted starting every class every day with a prayer. It took the school months to force her to stop. I was in seventh grade that year, so was her daughter who was terminally embarrassed by her mother.

surrealAmerican

(11,363 posts)
5. the pledge ...
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:37 PM
Jul 2013

... the creed, and the national anthem ...

I'm about your age, but I lived in a very conservative district - this was intended to keep any of us from becoming draft dodgers or something.

frogmarch

(12,158 posts)
6. I was in grade school
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:40 PM
Jul 2013

when "under God" was added. I didn't like it, and I didn't say that part. I still don't like it, and I still don't say it.

Betsy Ross

(3,147 posts)
7. I quit in 1964 at age 14.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:45 PM
Jul 2013

I had long before refused to drop for nuclear attack practice. But since it is valid for earthquakes, it is a justified activity.

petronius

(26,603 posts)
11. I know I did in elementary school, along with a song of some sort
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:40 PM
Jul 2013

Probably did in junior high - we had a home room, so we must have done something.

No recollection at all about whether we did or didn't in high school.

It was always "under god" at my age...

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
12. we did the Lords Prayer first then the pledge
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:54 PM
Jul 2013

Walpole Mass. grade school in 50s-early 60s ..I never learned the words for either and just mumbled to fit in .

looking back I think it was a good thing for the teachers because it calmed us down so they could try to teach us something .
I think we could have recited the phone book and it would have had the same effect .

No Vested Interest

(5,167 posts)
14. I think we said the pledge in grade school, and likely prayed as well-
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 03:07 AM
Jul 2013

parochial grade school.
High school - smallish Catholic girls private school- all school gathering. Likely pledge, prayer(s), and the part I liked best was patriotic songs, including "You're a grand old flag", "God bless America" or another lively song.

I was beyond school age when "under God" was included. That was during Eisenhower's presidency, when Sen. Joseph McCarthy was in his ascendancy, and uber-patriotism was deemed necessary to combat the "Red Menace- Communism.

My school memories are positive, in general.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
15. we did in elementary school
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 03:18 AM
Jul 2013

but that was long after the 'under god' was added, but it always bothered me. i used to occasionally cover school board and city council meetings when i was a reporter and i'd stand for the pledge to be proper, but never recited it.

tjwmason

(14,819 posts)
16. English here so no pledge
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 07:07 AM
Jul 2013

I've always found it a somewhat odd tradition, but as we have plenty of bizarre traditions I wouldn't criticise it...but we're far more restrained in our expressions of patriotism (and even then its usually done semi-ironically).

JitterbugPerfume

(18,183 posts)
18. I remember
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:18 AM
Jul 2013

when Miss Shivley told us we now have to say "under God", and just like a bunch of well programmed little sheep, we did!

Thank goodness I got over THAT!

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
19. In school, I did that for a different country
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:23 AM
Jul 2013

When I went to America, it just wasn't done.

Please note, that when I was in middle school and high school in the 90s, that was before Block scheduling took place, and we had a 7 subject school day. Home room is not a given, so there was no place to do such a thing for 1st period.

We all moved around from class to class, hurrying around to go to a class. The only time I could think they would do such a thing would be home room, but we don't have that every single day.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
20. No. When I was in second grade...
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:27 AM
Jul 2013

they told us we couldn't be forced to say it after one kid refused on religious grounds but they made us stand up and have a moment of silence when the other kids said it. She refused to do that too. She was pretty so I refused too.

No required praying in class either...not until I got to HS and my parents sent me to a religious prep school because we moved into the city and my parents didn't want me in an inner-city HS.

hunter

(38,325 posts)
22. My mom was a Jehovah's Witness until they kicked her out.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 12:26 PM
Jul 2013

Then we were Quakers.

Neither religion accepts the Pledge.

I was a weird kid in school. Being a kid who wouldn't say the Pledge made me even weirder. But that didn't bother me much except when I had teachers who singled me out and "explained" my situation, sometimes in a way that exposed me to further ridicule.

When I was teaching in a big city public school many teachers were not bothering with the pledge, mostly because they thought it was a waste of time. But then some busy-body parents complained and our principal started doing it over the PA system.

Pledge cheerleaders (some of them literally school cheerleaders...) in my classes sometimes got almost half the kids to stand for the Pledge, but usually the percentage was much smaller. I'd usually write a little extra credit quiz on the board each morning before school started and many kids would be doing that.

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)
23. Not just the pledge...The Lord's Prayer, too.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 01:22 PM
Jul 2013

AND a Bible reading.
Pennsylvania public school...ELHI.
Of course, I am very old.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
24. I only pretended to say it.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 07:26 PM
Jul 2013

Actually, most of the time it was recited over the loudspeaker, while everybody just stood.

I don't believe in pledging allegiance to anything.

trof

(54,256 posts)
26. I will not say it and I quit an organization because of it.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 07:53 PM
Jul 2013

I used to enjoy our monthly meeting of the Ancient Aviators of South Alabama.
Just a bunch of old fart pilots who gathered to swap tales and enjoy our common bond.
We had quite a few WWII vets, more Korean vets, and, of course many Viet Nam guys.
I knew they were mostly right wing, but we stayed away from politics.

At some point this asshole, uber patriotic, Marine brought a flag to the meeting and insisted that we all recite the pledge before the meeting.
And began every recitation with "AND SAY IT LIKE YA' MEAN IT!"
At the end he'd shout GOD BLESS AMERICA!

And that's when I said 'fuck this'.
We had just invaded Iraq and most of the guys were reliving their glory days of war.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
33. 5 days a week from 1960 to about 1966....
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:51 PM
Jul 2013

Maybe a little longer. A student led prayer over the intercom continued through about 1972....

solara

(3,836 posts)
34. I think "under God" was added just when I started being aware of the words I was reciting.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 12:13 AM
Jul 2013

I remember that we learned the ABCs with bible verses.. 'A' was " A soft answer turneth away anger' . I remember learning and reciting the 23rd Psalm.. and reciting the Lord's Prayer... I grew up in Oklahoma and prayer in schools was just par for the course. Needless to say I left home as soon as I could and have never really gone back.


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love_katz

(2,584 posts)
35. Had to say the pledge throughout grade school and middle school.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 12:15 AM
Jul 2013

I entered high school in 1968.

Yay! No more pledge, especially when I entered the alternative high school in 1969.

Freedom, freedom at last.

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