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Name a quarterback who's better than Tim Tebow (Original Post) jmowreader Aug 2013 OP
Just about any Pab Sungenis Aug 2013 #1
+1 hrmjustin Aug 2013 #26
That is the truth davidpdx Aug 2013 #31
I saw that movie pokerfan Aug 2013 #2
Adam Sandler was Crewe in the remake jmowreader Aug 2013 #3
What's confusing is that Rugmaster Burt had a cameo in the remake KamaAina Aug 2013 #15
Ah youth!!! dr.strangelove Aug 2013 #6
The other day... Wait Wut Aug 2013 #4
Todd Marinovich... (nt) petronius Aug 2013 #5
I don't know, Tebow is pretty solid dr.strangelove Aug 2013 #7
If he could throw as well as he runs, he'd be damn good. edbermac Aug 2013 #8
Its not his mechanics dr.strangelove Aug 2013 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #29
Or maybe Bill Belichick will see Tebow's true calling, and use him there jmowreader Aug 2013 #17
tight end blueamy66 Aug 2013 #37
He's not big enough to be a tight end or lineman jmowreader Aug 2013 #38
I agree blueamy66 Aug 2013 #42
Top 30? Iggo Aug 2013 #50
without question dr.strangelove Aug 2013 #53
Same to you, buddy. Iggo Aug 2013 #54
The problem is, the Patriots, Bills and Chiefs HAVE watched him play an entire game... jmowreader Aug 2013 #55
No tazkcmo Aug 2013 #59
What I've gathered........... mrmpa Aug 2013 #9
my understanding is that he is quite bright dr.strangelove Aug 2013 #11
he's a remedial football player: TeamPooka Aug 2013 #13
nothing in that article mentioned his smarts dr.strangelove Aug 2013 #16
Too many to name, starting with my local Pee Wee football league. nt TeamPooka Aug 2013 #12
Ryan Leaf KamaAina Aug 2013 #14
There's an argument to be made that Leaf is the smartest NFL QB in decades. Chan790 Aug 2013 #44
Isn't he in prison? (nt) Captain Stern Aug 2013 #64
He might be. Chan790 Aug 2013 #65
Flash pintobean Aug 2013 #18
Quasimodo mockmonkey Aug 2013 #19
B.D. from Doonesbury NoGOPZone Aug 2013 #20
Darrell Baldwin. lastlib Aug 2013 #21
Jesus Yavin4 Aug 2013 #22
Looks like Jesus is an RB, not a QB jmowreader Aug 2013 #66
The cat shown in 47of74's post... madinmaryland Aug 2013 #23
I really wish we could LIKE posts.i alphafemale Aug 2013 #33
All of 'em - except Tony Romo av8rdave Aug 2013 #24
Maybe not Cam Newton either jmowreader Aug 2013 #43
Bobby Douglass Doc_Technical Aug 2013 #25
This is easy... AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #27
Joe Cool could phone in the last two minutes of the game and still win Brother Buzz Aug 2013 #30
You could have just said... HarveyDarkey Aug 2013 #28
Is this a trick question? alphafemale Aug 2013 #32
He majored in "Family, Youth and Community Sciences"... Chan790 Aug 2013 #45
Ryan Leaf? EvolveOrConvolve Aug 2013 #34
It would be much harder,even Hayduke Bomgarte Aug 2013 #35
all of them. mzteris Aug 2013 #36
+1 B Calm Aug 2013 #52
My grandmother Bombero1956 Aug 2013 #39
Kim Kardashian olddots Aug 2013 #40
Kent Nix. n/t cloudbase Aug 2013 #41
Heath Schuler! Sissyk Aug 2013 #46
Nah. Chan790 Aug 2013 #47
lol! Sissyk Aug 2013 #48
Joe Montana/Steve Young sakabatou Aug 2013 #49
Chuck Norris Jamaal510 Aug 2013 #51
The Patriots first AND second string quarterbacks. Fearless Aug 2013 #56
Donovan McNabb. well,... maybe HERVEPA Aug 2013 #57
All of them tazkcmo Aug 2013 #58
Roger Staubach Rhiannon12866 Aug 2013 #60
Aaron Rodgers! Archae Aug 2013 #61
No contest. Sam Gordon retread Aug 2013 #62
My sister. cliffordu Aug 2013 #63

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
31. That is the truth
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:38 AM
Aug 2013

Last year Colin Kaepernick came out of know where. Personally I'd like to see him and Tebow in a ring with each other. Kaepernick would bust him in half.

dr.strangelove

(4,851 posts)
6. Ah youth!!!
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 03:46 PM
Aug 2013

The Bandit made the role, Happy Gilmore remade it. Watch the original, its about 10,000 times better.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
4. The other day...
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 03:43 PM
Aug 2013

...I was watching the kids play football at the school on the corner. I don't know his name, but I'd say he's in 4th or 5th grade.

dr.strangelove

(4,851 posts)
7. I don't know, Tebow is pretty solid
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 03:49 PM
Aug 2013

He eats his veggies, loves his mom, goes to church, helps little old ladies cross the street, reads to orphans, flies backwards around the earth to reverse time to save Lois and Jimmy, oh wait, you meant name one better at football. In that case, yes, I'd say most starters and most backups in the NFL are btter QBs, but he is no where near as bad as people make out. I think he is barely in the top 30 in the league. He really is not terrible, he just a bad NFL starter. I think he is way better than Weinke, Couch or Akili Smith was at their best. He has a place in the NFL, its just not as a starting QB. But a backup QB that can be run in other spots, he has some true value. I swear if he was not a religious guy, no one would care about him.

edbermac

(15,937 posts)
8. If he could throw as well as he runs, he'd be damn good.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 03:59 PM
Aug 2013

His passing mechanics are for shit. Maybe Brady could teach him some things.

dr.strangelove

(4,851 posts)
10. Its not his mechanics
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 04:04 PM
Aug 2013

he just does not have the arm strength or accuracy to be an NFL QB. It ain't easy. Remember the Jets Browning Nagle. He had a cannon, possibly the strongest arm ever in the NFL, but he could not hit the broad side of a barn standing right in front of it. Tebow has fine tuned his mechanics and he still can't put enough mustard on a throw to preclude the closing DB from getting either the ball or a huge hit on the WR. His throws are never on target and usually high. His benefits are that he keeps his head in every game, knows what everyone on the field is doing and can read a defense really well. He is bright and a heck of a physical athlete. I think a few years with BB in beantown and he will have a decent career as a spot player. He will never be a star, but no one should have expected that from him.

Response to dr.strangelove (Reply #10)

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
17. Or maybe Bill Belichick will see Tebow's true calling, and use him there
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 06:00 PM
Aug 2013

Free safety.

A big, fast guy with a good ground game who can't catch or throw isn't who you want as a quarterback or a receiver. Send his ass out there to chase people down.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
38. He's not big enough to be a tight end or lineman
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 05:00 PM
Aug 2013

He's also too big to be a corner.

Reality is, Tebow can best serve the game of football by becoming a coach at Liberty University.

dr.strangelove

(4,851 posts)
53. without question
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 04:02 PM
Aug 2013

There are a lot of haters who have never actually watched him play an entire game. He is really just not good enough to be an NFL starter. he could back up on any team and is better than probably 4 starters right now. But opinions are like ...

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
59. No
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 01:21 AM
Aug 2013

He is not in the bottom 30. He's awful. I have no respect for his QB talent but he is a competitor and all that stuff. He just can't read defenses, throw with accuracy or lead a team.


www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000231001/article/tim-tebow-throws-for-negative-yardage-in-pats-win


Last time I checked he had a QB rating of under 20.


Just checked and his career rating is 75. That's with 69 yds passing/game. lol


mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
9. What I've gathered...........
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 04:04 PM
Aug 2013

is that Tim Tebow is not that smart & has problems understanding offenses and route patterns. I really disliked him as a college player, with his eyeblack touting the Bible (3.16) or something like that. I also detested him when he purchased Super Bowl ad that was "pro-life".

As to a quarterback better than him, if we're talking current, then probably any starter & back up for any team.

dr.strangelove

(4,851 posts)
11. my understanding is that he is quite bright
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 04:06 PM
Aug 2013

in terms of football smarts. He is very good at reading defenses and ran an effective read option, which is hard to do unless you are a very bright guy. He may not be solving theoretical physics equations with Leonard and Sheldon, but the guy has the brains to be a coach in any league.

TeamPooka

(24,221 posts)
13. he's a remedial football player:
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 04:37 PM
Aug 2013
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/962223-tim-tebow-success-in-denver-is-not-sustainable-in-the-nfl

"NFL defenses just forgot how to address a high-school playbook.

The exact reasons as to why Tebow has been successful will mimic the exact reasons as to why Tebow will fail."

more at link....

dr.strangelove

(4,851 posts)
16. nothing in that article mentioned his smarts
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 05:15 PM
Aug 2013

It mentioned that he is not a good QB because he is no longer the best athlete on the field and NFL defensive coordinators are smart enough to gameplan to his strenths. But nothing about his football smarts. I will grant you the average IQ of an NFL QB is probably lower than that of an ivy league scholar, but Tebow is far from dumb. He reads defenses and makes great adjustments. He was successful in college because of this. The offense he read in college requires a QB to read blitzes and know the dozens of options on the field at once. I have no problem with someone saying Tebow does not have the arm or skill to be a successful NFL starter, he clearly does not. But it is because he just lacks the phsycial gifts that Eli or Peyton Mannign won in the genetic lottery of life. He is just as bright and hard working as either, he just can't put the ball into play like either of them can and no where near as accurately. Eli is less accurate than his brother, which makes him a great NFL starter but not a HOFer like his brother. Tebow is far from a remedial football player. He is a very sharp guy. He just lacks the arm to put the rock where it needs to be and when it needs to get there.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
44. There's an argument to be made that Leaf is the smartest NFL QB in decades.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:13 PM
Aug 2013

Get a huge, front-loaded contract with a giant signing bonus...immediately declare you're not really interested in an NFL career, play yourself out of the starting job, get cut within 3 seasons having taken less than 100 game-snaps and been knocked-down few enough times to count on your hands and walk away with $20M. Goddamned genius...or it would be if he wasn't bankrupt within 5 years.

He's not a cripple like some of these guys with long careers and he made more $ in his career than most of them. I used to work for the Starbucks over by ESPN...a lot of big NFL stars (guests and interviewees) and ESPN's NFL commentators came in at one time or another. Jaws walks a little stiff and Mark Schlereth is the only one who shows no signs of wear...the rest of them were walking wrecks. An NFL career puts you through a ringer.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
65. He might be.
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 01:01 PM
Aug 2013

I stopped paying attention after a while.

Edit: Turns out, yes he is. 7 years for burglary. Apparently he burnt through all his money on a drug habit, then started stealing to cover his habit. Which is sad...and undermines my "smartest QB" quip. Still, the notion is sound...get paid a lot to do nothing and walk away with the money.

lastlib

(23,213 posts)
21. Darrell Baldwin.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 08:41 PM
Aug 2013

Never heard of him? Don't feel bad, nobody else has either. The "star" of the 1976 Sni Mills High School team, he led the Kittens to a stunning 2-9 record (they weren't expected to win more than one game, but somehow managed to when the defense got its head together for one night.)

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
66. Looks like Jesus is an RB, not a QB
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 01:47 PM
Aug 2013

Which leads to the next question: is Jesus a better RB than Marshawn Lynch?

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
32. Is this a trick question?
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:21 AM
Aug 2013

If that thankyoujesus showboat assclown didn't have the Jesus take the wheel crowd pushing his nonexistent worth he would have Never got a contract.

Tim? Drop knee for your short NFL career and invest wisely.

What did you study in college?

Because you can't throw a football for shit.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
45. He majored in "Family, Youth and Community Sciences"...
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:21 PM
Aug 2013
http://fycs.ifas.ufl.edu/Undergraduate/

The Family, Youth and Community Sciences (FYCS) major is an applied social science program that provides education and experience for careers in human services, community development, cooperative extension, and youth professions.

Students develop in-depth knowledge in individual and family development and functioning in a community and societal context. Students learn intervention skills such as interpersonal communication; program planning, management and administration; social policy; applied research and evaluation; and community-based education.

Graduates find employment in public, private, and nonprofit organizations including community organizations, human services, and various youth agencies. Some career opportunities are:

Cooperative Extension Agent
Family Case Manager
Foster Care Specialist
Family Support Worker
Human Services Coordinator
Community Development
Day Care Specialist
Elder Care Services
4-H Youth Development
Youth Risk Prevention


Can't fault him for his major...it's basically a degree in public service. He didn't graduate though so he'd have to go back and finish his course-work.

mzteris

(16,232 posts)
36. all of them.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:17 AM
Aug 2013

Including all the college, high school, and feeder "jr" teams from middle and elementary schools.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
40. Kim Kardashian
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 05:56 PM
Aug 2013

Pee Wee Herman and Mini Me are better quarterbacks than that cult member has been .

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
47. Nah.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 12:30 AM
Aug 2013

Shuler just looks better because he's just that comparatively-poor as a Congressman that it inflates the perception of his quality as a QB. Living in DC, I saw enough of Shuler to fully grasp exactly how much of an NFL QB he wasn't...he should have had the words "Heath, you don't have the arm to throw into coverage or the foot-speed to outrun a NT" tattooed backwards on his forehead so he could read them in the mirror.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
56. The Patriots first AND second string quarterbacks.
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 12:53 AM
Aug 2013

Mind you the second string quarterback sits behind Brady and really is pretty awful.

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