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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsName a quarterback who's better than Tim Tebow
My money is on Paul "Wrecking" Crewe, Burt Reynolds' quarterback character in The Longest Yard.
Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)If you want the truth.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Last year Colin Kaepernick came out of know where. Personally I'd like to see him and Tebow in a ring with each other. Kaepernick would bust him in half.
pokerfan
(27,677 posts)but I believe you meant to say Adam Sandler as Paul Crewe.
jmowreader
(50,553 posts)In the original 1974 film, Burt Reynolds was Crewe.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)dr.strangelove
(4,851 posts)The Bandit made the role, Happy Gilmore remade it. Watch the original, its about 10,000 times better.
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)...I was watching the kids play football at the school on the corner. I don't know his name, but I'd say he's in 4th or 5th grade.
petronius
(26,602 posts)dr.strangelove
(4,851 posts)He eats his veggies, loves his mom, goes to church, helps little old ladies cross the street, reads to orphans, flies backwards around the earth to reverse time to save Lois and Jimmy, oh wait, you meant name one better at football. In that case, yes, I'd say most starters and most backups in the NFL are btter QBs, but he is no where near as bad as people make out. I think he is barely in the top 30 in the league. He really is not terrible, he just a bad NFL starter. I think he is way better than Weinke, Couch or Akili Smith was at their best. He has a place in the NFL, its just not as a starting QB. But a backup QB that can be run in other spots, he has some true value. I swear if he was not a religious guy, no one would care about him.
edbermac
(15,937 posts)His passing mechanics are for shit. Maybe Brady could teach him some things.
dr.strangelove
(4,851 posts)he just does not have the arm strength or accuracy to be an NFL QB. It ain't easy. Remember the Jets Browning Nagle. He had a cannon, possibly the strongest arm ever in the NFL, but he could not hit the broad side of a barn standing right in front of it. Tebow has fine tuned his mechanics and he still can't put enough mustard on a throw to preclude the closing DB from getting either the ball or a huge hit on the WR. His throws are never on target and usually high. His benefits are that he keeps his head in every game, knows what everyone on the field is doing and can read a defense really well. He is bright and a heck of a physical athlete. I think a few years with BB in beantown and he will have a decent career as a spot player. He will never be a star, but no one should have expected that from him.
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jmowreader
(50,553 posts)Free safety.
A big, fast guy with a good ground game who can't catch or throw isn't who you want as a quarterback or a receiver. Send his ass out there to chase people down.
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)nt
jmowreader
(50,553 posts)He's also too big to be a corner.
Reality is, Tebow can best serve the game of football by becoming a coach at Liberty University.
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)good answer
Iggo
(47,549 posts)Out of 64 starters and backups, he's better than 34 of them?
I dunno, man.
dr.strangelove
(4,851 posts)There are a lot of haters who have never actually watched him play an entire game. He is really just not good enough to be an NFL starter. he could back up on any team and is better than probably 4 starters right now. But opinions are like ...
Iggo
(47,549 posts)jmowreader
(50,553 posts)He is not in the bottom 30. He's awful. I have no respect for his QB talent but he is a competitor and all that stuff. He just can't read defenses, throw with accuracy or lead a team.
www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000231001/article/tim-tebow-throws-for-negative-yardage-in-pats-win
Last time I checked he had a QB rating of under 20.
Just checked and his career rating is 75. That's with 69 yds passing/game. lol
mrmpa
(4,033 posts)is that Tim Tebow is not that smart & has problems understanding offenses and route patterns. I really disliked him as a college player, with his eyeblack touting the Bible (3.16) or something like that. I also detested him when he purchased Super Bowl ad that was "pro-life".
As to a quarterback better than him, if we're talking current, then probably any starter & back up for any team.
dr.strangelove
(4,851 posts)in terms of football smarts. He is very good at reading defenses and ran an effective read option, which is hard to do unless you are a very bright guy. He may not be solving theoretical physics equations with Leonard and Sheldon, but the guy has the brains to be a coach in any league.
TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)"NFL defenses just forgot how to address a high-school playbook.
The exact reasons as to why Tebow has been successful will mimic the exact reasons as to why Tebow will fail."
more at link....
dr.strangelove
(4,851 posts)It mentioned that he is not a good QB because he is no longer the best athlete on the field and NFL defensive coordinators are smart enough to gameplan to his strenths. But nothing about his football smarts. I will grant you the average IQ of an NFL QB is probably lower than that of an ivy league scholar, but Tebow is far from dumb. He reads defenses and makes great adjustments. He was successful in college because of this. The offense he read in college requires a QB to read blitzes and know the dozens of options on the field at once. I have no problem with someone saying Tebow does not have the arm or skill to be a successful NFL starter, he clearly does not. But it is because he just lacks the phsycial gifts that Eli or Peyton Mannign won in the genetic lottery of life. He is just as bright and hard working as either, he just can't put the ball into play like either of them can and no where near as accurately. Eli is less accurate than his brother, which makes him a great NFL starter but not a HOFer like his brother. Tebow is far from a remedial football player. He is a very sharp guy. He just lacks the arm to put the rock where it needs to be and when it needs to get there.
TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)Get a huge, front-loaded contract with a giant signing bonus...immediately declare you're not really interested in an NFL career, play yourself out of the starting job, get cut within 3 seasons having taken less than 100 game-snaps and been knocked-down few enough times to count on your hands and walk away with $20M. Goddamned genius...or it would be if he wasn't bankrupt within 5 years.
He's not a cripple like some of these guys with long careers and he made more $ in his career than most of them. I used to work for the Starbucks over by ESPN...a lot of big NFL stars (guests and interviewees) and ESPN's NFL commentators came in at one time or another. Jaws walks a little stiff and Mark Schlereth is the only one who shows no signs of wear...the rest of them were walking wrecks. An NFL career puts you through a ringer.
Captain Stern
(2,201 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)I stopped paying attention after a while.
Edit: Turns out, yes he is. 7 years for burglary. Apparently he burnt through all his money on a drug habit, then started stealing to cover his habit. Which is sad...and undermines my "smartest QB" quip. Still, the notion is sound...get paid a lot to do nothing and walk away with the money.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)mockmonkey
(2,815 posts)I think I misread that.
NoGOPZone
(2,971 posts)lastlib
(23,213 posts)Never heard of him? Don't feel bad, nobody else has either. The "star" of the 1976 Sni Mills High School team, he led the Kittens to a stunning 2-9 record (they weren't expected to win more than one game, but somehow managed to when the defense got its head together for one night.)
Yavin4
(35,437 posts)jmowreader
(50,553 posts)Which leads to the next question: is Jesus a better RB than Marshawn Lynch?
madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)av8rdave
(10,573 posts)jmowreader
(50,553 posts)Doc_Technical
(3,526 posts)AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)my second choice..
Rich Gannon.
Brother Buzz
(36,416 posts)HarveyDarkey
(9,077 posts)Name any quarterback
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)If that thankyoujesus showboat assclown didn't have the Jesus take the wheel crowd pushing his nonexistent worth he would have Never got a contract.
Tim? Drop knee for your short NFL career and invest wisely.
What did you study in college?
Because you can't throw a football for shit.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)The Family, Youth and Community Sciences (FYCS) major is an applied social science program that provides education and experience for careers in human services, community development, cooperative extension, and youth professions.
Students develop in-depth knowledge in individual and family development and functioning in a community and societal context. Students learn intervention skills such as interpersonal communication; program planning, management and administration; social policy; applied research and evaluation; and community-based education.
Graduates find employment in public, private, and nonprofit organizations including community organizations, human services, and various youth agencies. Some career opportunities are:
Cooperative Extension Agent
Family Case Manager
Foster Care Specialist
Family Support Worker
Human Services Coordinator
Community Development
Day Care Specialist
Elder Care Services
4-H Youth Development
Youth Risk Prevention
Can't fault him for his major...it's basically a degree in public service. He didn't graduate though so he'd have to go back and finish his course-work.
EvolveOrConvolve
(6,452 posts)Hayduke Bomgarte
(1,965 posts)Nearly impossible to name a QB that is worse.
mzteris
(16,232 posts)Including all the college, high school, and feeder "jr" teams from middle and elementary schools.
Bombero1956
(3,539 posts)But then she died in 1995 so her stats are down a bit.
olddots
(10,237 posts)Pee Wee Herman and Mini Me are better quarterbacks than that cult member has been .
cloudbase
(5,513 posts)Sissyk
(12,665 posts)lol
Shuler just looks better because he's just that comparatively-poor as a Congressman that it inflates the perception of his quality as a QB. Living in DC, I saw enough of Shuler to fully grasp exactly how much of an NFL QB he wasn't...he should have had the words "Heath, you don't have the arm to throw into coverage or the foot-speed to outrun a NT" tattooed backwards on his forehead so he could read them in the mirror.
Fully agree. However, that's way too many words for a Ut Grad and NC Congressman to read!
sakabatou
(42,148 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)Mind you the second string quarterback sits behind Brady and really is pretty awful.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)Even the ones that never played.
Rhiannon12866
(205,202 posts)Archae
(46,318 posts)100%.
retread
(3,762 posts)cliffordu
(30,994 posts)She can run, throw, bark orders and generally wrangle anything she does to perfection.