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Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 07:47 PM Aug 2013

I rarely feel it's rude when others speak another language in front of me...

It seems a lot of people feel it's rude when others speak their own language in front of others but I rarely feel this. There is ONE instance where I do and that's when my parents sometimes use Chinese to very OBVIOUSLY talk behind someone's back about things like the cost of something, that I find embarrassing. However I've noticed people are offended in much more benign cases like the staff of a store chating among themselves. People think they are being talked about but I've never been uncomfortable with this. Perhaps it comes from growing up in a household where we used 2 languages freely and interchangeably?

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I rarely feel it's rude when others speak another language in front of me... (Original Post) Locut0s Aug 2013 OP
I only speak American English. American cursewords, mostly. cliffordu Aug 2013 #1
I agree. When I lived in Miami, I worked for various companies, RebelOne Aug 2013 #2
Doesn't usually pipi_k Aug 2013 #3
I love it when Mexicans say rude racist shit assuming I don't speak Spanish. Throd Aug 2013 #4
I'm fluent Mexican Spanish and English. a la izquierda Aug 2013 #5
One of my yoga instructors accidentally slipped into Spanish. Neoma Aug 2013 #17
The female owner of my favorite liquor store is Pakastani. She's often on the phone.... Rowdyboy Aug 2013 #6
what makes me mad is the "Americans" who barley speak one language olddots Aug 2013 #7
Honto ni? AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #8
I took a year of Japanese in High School and learned nothing :(... Locut0s Aug 2013 #10
its okay! AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #20
On the other hand, I get slightly embarrassed when people can speak/type decent English nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #9
Groetjes uit Nederland SwissTony Aug 2013 #11
Greetings! :D... Locut0s Aug 2013 #12
I had a roommate who was a school teacher. tanyev Aug 2013 #13
I live in the area,I don't mind if people speak their native tongue sammytko Aug 2013 #16
my grandson has fluent Italian as he was placed in a foreign language immersion school at age 5. CTyankee Aug 2013 #14
I'm a Glaswegian born Australian. SwissTony Aug 2013 #15
I'm just the opposite. I was raised in Texas but left to go to college at age 17... CTyankee Aug 2013 #19
The people at my favorite restaurant speaks Mandarin all the time. Neoma Aug 2013 #18
My daughter is a teacher at a South Florida school, RebelOne Aug 2013 #21
Only if it's a work-related situation alarimer Aug 2013 #22
mom-in-law and her mom used to speak French and dad-in-law couldn't eShirl Aug 2013 #23
My father was of Norwegian descent and married into my mother's family, which Lydia Leftcoast Aug 2013 #31
I feel envy and admiration REP Aug 2013 #24
That sounds about right Iggo Aug 2013 #25
I am terrible at math, ashling Aug 2013 #26
This. Earth_First Aug 2013 #27
Many nurseries antiquie Aug 2013 #29
I can't comprehend why people think it's rude. noamnety Aug 2013 #28
My wife talks to me in Dutch out in public MrScorpio Aug 2013 #30
If you have ever lived in a foreign country, you know that it is simply easier Lydia Leftcoast Aug 2013 #32

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
1. I only speak American English. American cursewords, mostly.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 08:01 PM
Aug 2013

It REALLY fucking annoys me to have people talking around me, English, or not.

And, because I am so self centered, I automatically assume people speaking other languages are ridiculing me for not having enough couth, or that my fly is unzipped, or I look like their subnormal escaped brother in law, or some fucking thing.

If they laugh, I get REALLY pissed off.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
2. I agree. When I lived in Miami, I worked for various companies,
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 08:22 PM
Aug 2013

and the Cuban-American women would speak Spanish to each other even though there would be a room full of English speaking American women. It would piss me off immensely. I considered it totally rude, but I did not complain because I did not wish to cause any damage to employee relations.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
3. Doesn't usually
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 08:41 PM
Aug 2013

Bother me either

My DIL's parents are immigrants. When they're at my son's house, perhaps with a few more of the cousins, etc., they switch back and forth between Polish and English.

Throd

(7,208 posts)
4. I love it when Mexicans say rude racist shit assuming I don't speak Spanish.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 09:04 PM
Aug 2013

99% of the time they are talking about the same mundane things everyone else talks about, but in a few instances, I have overheard some pretty inflammatory things said about myself or others.

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
5. I'm fluent Mexican Spanish and English.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 09:16 PM
Aug 2013

It annoys the piss out of some people when I switch over to Spanish. Once, I was speaking with a girlfriend, and one of our colleagues said, "Isn't it so cute, you two have your own secret little language." I was not happy.
On the other hand, it sort of blows people away when I switch to Spanish. I'm pretty white (though I am part Spanish).

Neoma

(10,039 posts)
17. One of my yoga instructors accidentally slipped into Spanish.
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 02:41 PM
Aug 2013

Someone said,"Are those real words?" Because white people can only know English?

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
6. The female owner of my favorite liquor store is Pakastani. She's often on the phone....
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 01:42 AM
Aug 2013

chattering away in her native dialect when I check out. She smiles, I smile, she gives me a total, I swipe my card and sign the receipt. Why should I be offended?

If she was speaking English I wouldn't be any more interested in her conversation nor offended. She's probably just giving her kids hell or talking to her husband.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
7. what makes me mad is the "Americans" who barley speak one language
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 01:51 AM
Aug 2013

get frantic when other people can speak two languages .

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
10. I took a year of Japanese in High School and learned nothing :(...
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 03:14 AM
Aug 2013

I speak Mandarin without and accent (mother is Chinese), but have forgotten most of the vocabulary. It's embarrassing I could have learned enough Japanese during those HS classes to have had some fun. But I was lazy and stupid about some things at the time.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
9. On the other hand, I get slightly embarrassed when people can speak/type decent English
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 03:09 AM
Aug 2013

as a second/third/whatever language. Considering I'm pretty much monolingual, aside from a small amount of Spanish.

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
11. Groetjes uit Nederland
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 03:43 AM
Aug 2013

If we're in another country, my wife and I will talk in Dutch but only if we want to say something we don't want other people to know e.g. how much money we have on us. Almost never about other people. Example of when we did...we were in Paris in May and some scruffy looking dude was watching me closely. He started to approach me. My wife warned me in Dutch, but I had already spotted him and was trying to avoid him. I was surrounded by 3 or 4 "unsavory" types. Turned out they were undercover Customs agents, carrying out (presumably) random checks.

The title means "Greetings from Holland".

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
12. Greetings! :D...
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 03:56 AM
Aug 2013

Yes our family has used Chinese in very similar circumstances as well, My parents will use Chinese to talk about the bill at a restaurant if they don't want others to hear some discussion about amounts, tips and the like.

tanyev

(42,552 posts)
13. I had a roommate who was a school teacher.
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 08:38 AM
Aug 2013

It was a little private school that paid crap salary. So she signed up at a temp agency for summer work. They found her a long term position at a paper company in an older part of town. She came home one evening and told how she lectured everybody in the break room that it was rude for them to speak Spanish to each other. This was on their lunch break. Did I mention that this happened in San Antonio?

My reaction:

sammytko

(2,480 posts)
16. I live in the area,I don't mind if people speak their native tongue
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 02:11 PM
Aug 2013

I do mind when people give me the eye roll when I have a hard time speaking Spanish. What's the big deal?

Heck, I like going to the Asian mani-pedi place because they don't expect you to make small talk.

You do your thing, they do theirs. You talk with your friend, they talk to their co-worker. If they laugh at your snaggle toed foot, who cares.

CTyankee

(63,909 posts)
14. my grandson has fluent Italian as he was placed in a foreign language immersion school at age 5.
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 08:48 AM
Aug 2013

He looks more like a blue eyed, blond Swede so hearing him speak perfect Italian (with a Roman accent I am told since his teacher was from Rome) puzzles people. Occasionally, when he is with a few of his classmates, they will burst from perfect, unaccented American English into Italian (usually to talk some strategy at a game without the other kids knowing what they were up to!). It can be a little jarring to anyone watching this transpire on the playground...

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
15. I'm a Glaswegian born Australian.
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 12:32 PM
Aug 2013

I find it difficult to talk to other Scots without using my Glaswegian accent...it just kicks in. Despite the fact that I left Scotland in 1961 at the age of 10, I still have an accent that can scrape paint off walls. I've spoken with an Australian accent for many years and it comes as a shock to my Australian friends when I suddenly break into a Glaswegian accent.

CTyankee

(63,909 posts)
19. I'm just the opposite. I was raised in Texas but left to go to college at age 17...
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 04:16 PM
Aug 2013

I went north and my Texas accent faded away. I couldn't regain it if I tried...

Neoma

(10,039 posts)
18. The people at my favorite restaurant speaks Mandarin all the time.
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 02:48 PM
Aug 2013

On the phone and to customers who also speak Mandarin. They also translate our English speaking orders into Chinese characters for the cooks. Nothing wrong with that.

However my aunt and uncle who speaks Spanish, almost seems to purposely be rude about it. They use it like they're whispering...

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
21. My daughter is a teacher at a South Florida school,
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 05:24 PM
Aug 2013

which has many Hispanic students. They don't think she knows any Spanish. They are wrong because she has sent many students to the principal's office for using obscene Spanish language to her thinking she didn't know what they were saying. She grew up in Miami, FL, and knows quite a bit of Spanish, especially offensive words.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
22. Only if it's a work-related situation
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 05:59 PM
Aug 2013

And they're saying something about work. It would be rude to complain about your boss, say, in another language, right in front of him, for example. But people just chit-chatting, no I don't care about that.

If I'm in a work place where the majority language (or even a substantial minority) is something other than English, I will do my best to learn at least some of that language. It would be a good way to connect with coworkers or customers.

eShirl

(18,490 posts)
23. mom-in-law and her mom used to speak French and dad-in-law couldn't
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 08:04 PM
Aug 2013

They'd have a long conversation, and one time in particular dad-in-law went in the next room and asked DH, who was a kid at the time, what they were saying? DH told his dad, "She said you have a tiny dick." Dad-in-law went back and told mom-in-law, "He said you were talking about that I have a tiny dick." Mom-in-law translated that for her mom, and they both sat there giggling. Dad-in-law, standing there while they giggled: "Well?"

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
31. My father was of Norwegian descent and married into my mother's family, which
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 01:23 PM
Aug 2013

drifted between German and English at family gatherings. (Some of the first generation were still alive at the time, and they had raised their children to speak German at home.)

Did my dad complain?

No, he learned German. Problem solved.

REP

(21,691 posts)
24. I feel envy and admiration
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 08:10 PM
Aug 2013

My Spanish is decent; I speak enough Mandarin to make small talk (and find a bathroom) and can read several languages okay, but I'm only fluent in English. I really admire and am deeply envious of polyglots.

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
25. That sounds about right
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 08:45 PM
Aug 2013

I speak fluent American English and I speak decent enough Spanish. I'm used to people switching back and forth between two languages. It doesn't bother me when someone else does it...even if I don't understand the one they slip into.

ashling

(25,771 posts)
26. I am terrible at math,
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 02:42 AM
Aug 2013

but I don't think it is rude when someone can do complicated calculations in their head. Speaking another language is the same thing. I admire the fact that they can.

There were some rednecks where I used to work that would get all bent out of shape about people speaking Spanish around them. One of them who used terrible grammar said she thought that they ought to be shot. I told her that before she started shooting people who spoke Spanish she should probably learn to speak her own language properly.

 

antiquie

(4,299 posts)
29. Many nurseries
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 01:10 PM
Aug 2013

in SoCal in the early-mid eighties posted where employees could not miss it:
SPEAK SPANISH, GET PAID IN PESOS.

Sick and sad.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
28. I can't comprehend why people think it's rude.
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 01:01 PM
Aug 2013

"It's just polite for everyone to go out of their way to make it easy for me to eavesdrop on their private conversations!"

Some people don't grasp that eavesdropping is rude. Unavoidable sometimes, but rude to act like it's your right, and their obligation to make sure you're able.

We've turned into a whole country of NSA wannabees.

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
32. If you have ever lived in a foreign country, you know that it is simply easier
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 01:26 PM
Aug 2013

to speak to people from your native country in your native language.

I lived in Japan. Did I speak Japanese to other Americans?

When put that way, it sounds absurd, doesn't it?

So why shouldn't Latinos speak Spanish to other Latinos?

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