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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 08:03 PM Aug 2013

How to deal with a control freak boss?

Last edited Sun Aug 25, 2013, 04:29 PM - Edit history (2)

Need some suggestions about dealing with control freak boss? I explicitly told him that I have very limited ability this weekend, and I am not contracted to work weekends, nor is it in any HR corporate policy I can find. I don't get paid overtime or get any comp time. He sends aggressive,hostile emails - and is always making threats...he told me once, he knows how to make people disappear..whatever that means. I hate dealing with bully bosses, but I'm at the point, where I have just had enough...

**UPDATE: Things came to a head today, and I had to go to HR

**NEW UPDATE - Not Fired yet...

Basically, I was asked to take over a project that Control Freak was working on. This weekend, we had major stuff going on with the client, I successfully handled all issues that came up, and threatened to derail project. The client was so grateful, that they went to my upper management and requested that I become their client liasion and replace control freak - for example, he left so many steps out of the project plan that I reviewed this weekend - I think he was hoping I would fail, and then he could step in and be a hero. I found something very vital to the project, that he did NOT do. It will be interesting to see how he spins that. I got kudo's from my upper management, and a personal note of thanks from my VP, which is not heard of.
So basically, next week he is going to have to answer to how he basically f'ed up this project, and how he has to explain to his management how and why he been trying to get me fired, when he has been the incompetent one all along..

BTW...my appt for HR was for Mon morning...

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How to deal with a control freak boss? (Original Post) HipChick Aug 2013 OP
He knows how to make people disappear? Incitatus Aug 2013 #1
I have it in an email.. HipChick Aug 2013 #7
Is there anyone over him? Baitball Blogger Aug 2013 #25
If you have evidence, i.e. emails, go to HR. Avalux Aug 2013 #2
go to HR. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2013 #3
Never ever trust HR, they are just a tool for management! B Calm Aug 2013 #14
And DOCUMENT everything. Every word, every hostile look... Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #4
HR, Monday morning, with printed copies of those. politicat Aug 2013 #5
restraining order ("knows how to make people disappear" wtf) eShirl Aug 2013 #6
I told my parents tonight, if I ever go missing.. HipChick Aug 2013 #8
"I know how to make people disappear" Kennah Aug 2013 #9
That's a good point about involving the police...he wants to know where I am too on my days off.. HipChick Aug 2013 #10
your days off are really none of his business ... yes, I think HR and the police would Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2013 #17
As I think about this more, you need to talk to both HR AND the police Kennah Aug 2013 #26
Agreed Sherman A1 Aug 2013 #12
I know... MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #11
You could simply get fired Orrex Aug 2013 #13
I agree, make him fire you and then take it to labor relations. B Calm Aug 2013 #15
I should disclaim... Orrex Aug 2013 #16
Yes..he is a controlling micromanager...he tries to laugh off these threats HipChick Aug 2013 #18
Saying "Hail unto you, gracious overlord... malthaussen Aug 2013 #19
He is not just a control freak - he is a nut job - and a dangerous nut job at that! patricia92243 Aug 2013 #20
Yeah, that is way beyond normal. LisaLynne Aug 2013 #21
thank you..I will check that site...this is honestly wearing me down..and all I want to do is work.. HipChick Aug 2013 #23
calling you 15 times within 2 hours on a weekend is not a joke magical thyme Aug 2013 #22
Quit ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #24
Can I file with EEOC and still work? Quitting looks like he won.. HipChick Aug 2013 #27
EEOC link. ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #28
Your information is wrong...any biz with over 15 employees qualifies.. HipChick Aug 2013 #29
OOPS - sorry about that, I didn't read it thoroughly. ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #30
I've been casing that website.. HipChick Aug 2013 #31
Keep me posted, I've had many dealings with my own government ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #32
Things came to a head today... HipChick Aug 2013 #33
Click the little icon that looks like an envelope beside my username ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #34
I can't, and don't handle control freaks well. Initech Aug 2013 #35
Leave. ASAP. Myrina Aug 2013 #36
I sent out some resumes today.. HipChick Aug 2013 #37
Best thing you can do. Myrina Aug 2013 #38
Why is he even still working there? AmyStrange Aug 2013 #39
It's basically a nice little boys clubs.. HipChick Aug 2013 #42
explains a lot AmyStrange Aug 2013 #43
just a thought warrprayer Aug 2013 #40
How can he make you work overtime without you being compensated for it? Yavin4 Aug 2013 #41
Is he married? AmyStrange Aug 2013 #44
Not married, no family, lives alone..seems to be few friends HipChick Aug 2013 #45
hmmmm AmyStrange Aug 2013 #46
I think he has been in some kind of securities fraud.. HipChick Aug 2013 #47
NO it doesn't AmyStrange Aug 2013 #49
Now you got me wondering...for right now, he is being super extra nice..but if a dog has bit you HipChick Aug 2013 #50
Either he's got a bi-polar condition... AmyStrange Aug 2013 #51
So there you go. The reason. Paulie Aug 2013 #48

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
2. If you have evidence, i.e. emails, go to HR.
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 08:18 PM
Aug 2013

Go to HR each and every time he acts or talks out of line, even if it's just your word against his. You might be in their office every day, but it's their job to listen to you and take action if you report that he's making threats, which is harassment.

How many others does your boss supervise?

politicat

(9,808 posts)
5. HR, Monday morning, with printed copies of those.
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 10:12 PM
Aug 2013

Don't say anything until HR has read them. Document, document, document.

Is Aggro-boss's boss sympathetic? If so, make sure Aggro's boss is kept in the loop, and if needed, BCC your critical project data to Aggro's boss. Keep copies of your performance reviews at home.

Because that's just... Way out of line. Like edging past employee harassment out of line.

Kennah

(14,234 posts)
9. "I know how to make people disappear"
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 12:44 AM
Aug 2013

If you have that in Email, I would first take it to HR. When you meet with HR, tell them that they need to respond in a satisfactory manner or you will need to bring the matter to the local police.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
10. That's a good point about involving the police...he wants to know where I am too on my days off..
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 02:18 AM
Aug 2013

I put my phone on DND on my days off..

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
17. your days off are really none of his business ... yes, I think HR and the police would
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:07 AM
Aug 2013

be the prudent thing to do at this point. "make people disappear" that definitely sounds threatening.

Kennah

(14,234 posts)
26. As I think about this more, you need to talk to both HR AND the police
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 02:40 PM
Aug 2013

First bring it to HR, and tell them that you will also be speaking with the police, so you will need to know what name to give the investigating officer to contact in HR at work.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
12. Agreed
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 03:46 AM
Aug 2013

This person has a problem and has made a threat to your personal safety. It is beyond time to ask for help.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
11. I know...
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 03:28 AM
Aug 2013

Go to a hypnotist who in the middle of making you relax and care of nothing, dies, leaving you to never come out of the hypnotic suggestion...

Seriously, wouldn't we have all preferred THAT one? I guess you have to take it to HR, but with the best intentions of not appearing that you are going after this freak.

Orrex

(63,173 posts)
16. I should disclaim...
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:59 AM
Aug 2013

My boss was indeed a controlling micromanager, but he never made veiled threats of the kind described in the OP. Clearly the current issue is of a different magnitude than my situation.

I agree with the suggestion above: document everything.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
18. Yes..he is a controlling micromanager...he tries to laugh off these threats
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:28 AM
Aug 2013

by saying he is joking...

I left this weekend, and he wanted me to call him when I got there..I didn't call and kept my phone on DND..he proceeded to call me 15 times in the space of 2hrs..

LisaLynne

(14,554 posts)
21. Yeah, that is way beyond normal.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 10:09 AM
Aug 2013

The threat is what gets me. I had a boss in the past who would do the whole harassment on the weekends thing, but it was all about work with him. Is this guy ... like do you think maybe he's getting to the point where he wants to know where you are for stalkerish reasons? Like ... is this developing into something like that?

Also, check out this blog: askamanager.org. The woman that writes it has an AMAZING command of professional language and how to conduct conversations like the one you are going to have to have (IMHO) with HR. You could send her your question and I bet you anything she will respond, or just search through the archives for advice.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
23. thank you..I will check that site...this is honestly wearing me down..and all I want to do is work..
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:41 AM
Aug 2013
 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
22. calling you 15 times within 2 hours on a weekend is not a joke
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:35 AM
Aug 2013

whatever he may claim about the email that he knows how to make people disappear.

That guy has gone way past the line of harassment. You have phone records of his calls as well as emails. Keep copies of everything, take it to HR and to his boss. This guy is so far out of line it's frightening and potentially a dangerous situation.

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
24. Quit
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 02:15 PM
Aug 2013

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Leave the issue alone for now, look for other employment if needed, then quit.

Don't know what you have available, or where you are at, but here in Ontario we can go to our Ministry of Labor,

so it's an external body handling the issue - and they HATE employers that abuse.

I once made a claim for $1800 in wages, employer fired me,

Ministry of Labour awarded me $10,500! - the max at that time.

I took the whole summer off before looking for work . .





CC

ps: I don't trust cops - period.

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
28. EEOC link.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:38 PM
Aug 2013

Last edited Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:35 AM - Edit history (1)

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Here is their website

http://www.eeoc.gov/

I know WE here can file while still employed for sure -

ya got some homework to do!

http://www.eeoc.gov/

CC

ps: ur employer will try every which way to get rid of you once they find out you filed a claim

be prepared, be cautious.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
29. Your information is wrong...any biz with over 15 employees qualifies..
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:12 AM
Aug 2013

**Reading is fundamental***

http://www.eeoc.gov/employees/coverage_private.cfm



Coverage of Business/Private Employers
General Coverage

If you have a complaint against a business (or some other private employer) that involves race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information, the business is covered by the laws we enforce if it has 15 or more employees who worked for the employer for at least twenty calendar weeks (in this year or last).
Age Discrimination and Coverage

If your complaint involves age discrimination, the business is covered by the laws we enforce if it has 20 or more employees who worked for the company for at least twenty calendar weeks (in this year or last).
Equal Pay Act and Coverage

Virtually all employers are covered by the Equal Pay Act (EPA), which makes it illegal to pay different wages to men and women if they perform substantially equal work in the same workplace.
Deciding Coverage of Business/Private Employers

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
32. Keep me posted, I've had many dealings with my own government
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:23 PM
Aug 2013

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regarding labor issues,

mostly won,

but after much time and grief.

PM me if you wish on this matter.

CC

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
33. Things came to a head today...
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 12:12 AM
Aug 2013

He started being very bullying today.....I contacted his boss today for a meeting - with HR tomorrow.

I am so upset - I wish I could PM you, right now I can't even figure out how to do that...

Initech

(100,043 posts)
35. I can't, and don't handle control freaks well.
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 01:54 AM
Aug 2013

My mom is a control freak, my boss is a control freak, I had a former supervisor who was a complete control freak, and I just don't handle that at all very well.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
36. Leave. ASAP.
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 01:02 PM
Aug 2013

There is no way in today's workplace to effectively deal with crazy bosses. Your option is self-preservation, ie; leave.

I did it a year ago & aside from a few moments of panic here & there, I caught s better-paying contracting gig & can sleep at night.

Good luck!!

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
38. Best thing you can do.
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 03:27 PM
Aug 2013

Even if you "win" with HR (which is unlikely, because over the last 10 years HR's missions have shifted from being 'emplyee focused' to being 'resource-cost focused') once a Mgr has a bullseye on you, he/she will make your life hell until you - or he/she - completely leaves the company.

If you find something else, give your notice & leave in good standing so you can (try to) go back once he/she is gone. And he/she WILL be gone sooner than later, because he/she will come to represent a cost (complaints, employee attrition, etc) to HR.

And always, always, ALWAYS remember - they're the crazy asshole, not you. If your company has an EAP (Employee Assistance Program), I'd recommend taking advantage of the free, confidential counseling sessions just to get it off your chest.


GOOD LUCK!!!

 

AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
43. explains a lot
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 10:02 PM
Aug 2013

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I FREAKIN HATE PEOPLE LIKE THAT, sorry

I wonder if it would be worth the money to look into this guy's past

I wish you all the luck in the world grrrl

((((HUGz))))

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added an apostrophe to guys

warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
40. just a thought
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 04:23 PM
Aug 2013

has it occurred to you that he might be a right wing nutcase who somehow became aware of your political leanings? IMO the phone calls are enough to get the cops involved. Restraining order gives you standing if further action is needed. Just my 2 cents.

Yavin4

(35,423 posts)
41. How can he make you work overtime without you being compensated for it?
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 05:13 PM
Aug 2013

It's against the law in some states to work over 40 hours a week and not be paid OT. He's abusing his position.

 

AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
44. Is he married?
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 10:10 PM
Aug 2013

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If he is, would it be possible to get chummy with the wife? How about his mother?

Just curious,

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AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
46. hmmmm
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 07:23 PM
Aug 2013

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I still say get a PI on his A$$!!

people like that don't usually have the cleanest backgrounds,

but that's just my opinion HipChick,

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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
47. I think he has been in some kind of securities fraud..
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 07:41 PM
Aug 2013

and some buddy of his got him this job,but it does not give him a license to bully me..

 

AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
49. NO it doesn't
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 02:18 AM
Aug 2013

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securities fraud huh? Be careful HipChick, but it sounds like maybe things are coming to a head. Maybe not today, but it sounds like you can feel it coming soon too.

Man, I still say get someone to take a couple days and see if there's anything funny about him. That making people disappear thing makes me wonder if maybe there might be something to it that happened in his past.

Just my opinion Hip.

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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
50. Now you got me wondering...for right now, he is being super extra nice..but if a dog has bit you
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 03:13 PM
Aug 2013

once, I would not give him the chance to do it again..

 

AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
51. Either he's got a bi-polar condition...
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 06:19 PM
Aug 2013

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or something has happened to change his tactics. Kind of reminds me of tv gang bosses who treat you nice in their office... just before they "off" you.

Please be careful, but don't be fooled by his niceness, just in case... but still get someone to do a back ground check on him and please keep us updated. Your best weapon at this point is to make sure other people know what's going on, besides yourself and other fellow workers.

If you can afford it, get a lawyer and give him (or her) everything you have on him,

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Paulie

(8,462 posts)
48. So there you go. The reason.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 09:07 PM
Aug 2013

He's scared of someone competent. Keep kicking ass and he'll be shown the door.

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