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Just yesterday, my Mom forwarded an offensive email to my wife. It was the old proud to be white screed with Michael Richardson's name added. I went over to talk to my Mom (late 70s widow) and find out why she sent the message. She said she thought it was funny and had some good points and threw out the "punchline" that she should be allowed to feel pride in who she is. We then had a pretty good discussion about the email (turned out she didn't even read the whole thing) and I think I got her to see both the subtle and overt racism in it. She apologized for sending it along. My Mom isn't a racist, but she isn't a great critical thinker either.
On the very surface, it does almost sound reasonable to wonder "why are there black colleges, but if you started a white college you'd be called racist?" Of course it only takes a second or two to recognize myriad problems in that "question". The black colleges exist specifically because of racism--both because it wasn't long ago when whites wouldn't allow blacks to attend "their" colleges, and because when they were allowed in, they had trouble fitting in (both because of race relations and because there was (and is still) a culture issue). On top of that, whites CAN get into those schools.
The problem is that the email, like almost all of this ilk, don't just throw out one question that can be pondered, but they throw dozens of these slanted, disingenuous questions/statements. Obviously, not everyone reads and thinks about these deeply, they simply get a light dose of "hey, us white people are getting screwed" that doesn't really make them truly mad, but it does sway opinion and over time (and enough bullshit emails), they really do begin feeling that they're getting seriously screwed.
Anyway, I was pretty upset about the whole mess and then today I see a post from a "facebook friend" who I know is a pretty nice guy, even if a bit libertarian. He's posting the old Hanoi Jane screed about her betraying POWs who supposedly slipped her secret messages--oh, and it blames Obama for wanting to honor her in a TV show about 100 women of the 20th Century. Well, it took 2 seconds on Snopes to prove that literally everything in the post was a flat out lie and that the TV show in question actually aired in 1998 (a decade before Obama became president!)
I posted my reply (with the Snopes link) and his only response was, "just proves opinions are like assholes..."
Jeez, I hate email chains!!!
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)No Vested Interest
(5,166 posts)but, if earlier senders are still on the email, I will sometimes send it to those people, so that they have the opportunity to correct their mistake and send the Snopes link to the others to whom they sent it.
Yes, I realize it's unlikely that the earlier people do in fact correct their errors, but I feel good giving them the opportunity.
Occasionally, I reply to those who send such emails, that I do not wish to receive any political emails (they're nearly always of the RW variety - especially anti-Obama, anti- Muslim, or pro-gun.
Spike89
(1,569 posts)There is so much of this vile stuff floating around and being sent along. It is a poison that hurts everyone and crusading against it just seems to earn you the title of "Internet crank". I really believe 1/2 or more of the people that send this crap along really don't think it is any more caustic than the latest LOLcat
Chan790
(20,176 posts)Google revealed two of any noteworthiness whatsoever, neither with enough noteworthiness to name-check in an email like that.
One founded a tech start-up. His tech is good, not great...he seems like a wanker, but I doubt he's anything but a social-lefty don't-tax-me-bro! libertarian technocrat of the sort that Silicon Valley is full of and certainly not a racist.
The other is a African-American voice actor who does a lot of video-game work.
No Vested Interest
(5,166 posts)He famously made a racist rant during a comedy act a few years ago. Look on Snopes for details.
Spike89
(1,569 posts)Don't know why I appended the "on" in the OP, Michael Richards, the actor. But of course, the quote is misattributed to him in the email, and he never actually went to any trial over his racist nightclub rant.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)What I get a sense of though is that some are so over the top loony or hateful that even the conservative senders, people I know personally, know much of it is over the top but send it just as a way of chest beating for their tribalistic-ness. One of them though, when I provided a link to Snopes that exposed the BS, his response was that snopes was "left wing".
Spike89
(1,569 posts)Seriously, I get that response a lot, that the site owners are left wing. When I reply, "maybe, but how does that affect the facts in this particular case?" they brush facts aside. When I ask them for an alternative, or push them to another site, they usually come back with some form of "well, it may not be "factually" accurate, but the idea/concept/gist is still true..."
I really try to avoid these things and the confrontations, the entire discussion always leaves me frustrated.
Wounded Bear
(58,656 posts)decry when we point out that some of their sources are RW wackos. "Don't attack my sources. That's my line!"
It'd be funny if it wasn't so pitifully hypocritical.