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closeupready

(29,503 posts)
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:16 PM Oct 2013

How untalented is Katy Perry?

So untalented that her 'career' would be nonexistent without Autotune? For evidence, watch the video to "Roar". I mean, I can't give you back that those 3+minutes but if you want a good laugh, check it out, lol:

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How untalented is Katy Perry? (Original Post) closeupready Oct 2013 OP
Autotune. Any use of it any time makes my skin crawl.... NRaleighLiberal Oct 2013 #1
You beat me to it Miles Archer Oct 2013 #5
The problem is, "the true artist", in most cases... Frank Cannon Oct 2013 #19
exactly. it's really why my favorite genres are jazz and classical NRaleighLiberal Oct 2013 #22
I think it works in that song, Cher's "Believe" always annoyed me with that Auto-Tune jakeXT Oct 2013 #2
As in, a crutch for those of meager talent? I think you're right. nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #40
Once they give you the tools, you want to play with them jakeXT Oct 2013 #42
She's best viewed on mute. Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #3
didn't watch the video but i think she's adorable. saw her on a talk show & orleans Oct 2013 #4
yup think she would be fun to be around. loli phabay Oct 2013 #11
I'd love to be lost in the jungle with her petronius Oct 2013 #6
. In_The_Wind Oct 2013 #7
When I was younger, we'd laugh at Madonna's paint-by-numbers closeupready Oct 2013 #8
She's not twerking In_The_Wind Oct 2013 #9
you are the wrong audience perhaps. loli phabay Oct 2013 #10
Exactly.... mimi85 Oct 2013 #13
at least shes better than genesis or rush who i totally hate loli phabay Oct 2013 #14
Your hatred of Genesis and Rush has lasted so long... dogknob Oct 2013 #27
In her defense Nevernose Oct 2013 #12
Well then at least she's trying, in her own way, closeupready Oct 2013 #17
I find her amusing. kwassa Oct 2013 #15
My 11 y.o. likes her (& loves "Roar"), but... cyberswede Oct 2013 #16
Better version ? I don't know jakeXT Oct 2013 #18
Oh, yes, definitely better - she can sing, her voice is lovely. closeupready Oct 2013 #33
I know she has been accused of being pro military propaganda, and now her new album is called PRISM jakeXT Oct 2013 #34
Yes, Stars Are Blind was good, harmless pop. closeupready Oct 2013 #35
This untalented! Tabasco_Dave Oct 2013 #20
Oh my freaking ears! Fearless Oct 2013 #30
She's a lovely young woman... Tom_Foolery Oct 2013 #21
If DU were around 30 years ago NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #23
We were saying the same things about Madonna pscot Oct 2013 #26
I don't care if she can sing or not. cliffordu Oct 2013 #24
I wouldn't say she untalented. baldguy Oct 2013 #25
I love that video, and I love Katy Perry. bigwillq Oct 2013 #28
No, go for it with my blessings!! Music is magical - closeupready Oct 2013 #29
She wears it well Tom Ripley Oct 2013 #31
She has done a few decent non auto-tuned songs. Xyzse Oct 2013 #32
She's pretty good at separating 12-year-olds from their allowance. Iggo Oct 2013 #36
I like that song. dawg Oct 2013 #37
Hard to tell about her but I DID like the production values on the Video. The quality and.. BlueJazz Oct 2013 #38
She sounds like a robot Taverner Oct 2013 #39
Pfff, as if shooting foam out of one's knockers isn't a talent. Bucky Oct 2013 #41

NRaleighLiberal

(60,021 posts)
1. Autotune. Any use of it any time makes my skin crawl....
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:18 PM
Oct 2013

Much rather hear the true artist and all of the attributes that people aren't perfect than any application of autotune (autoruin).

Maybe it is a generation thing - when I think back to the live albums from some of my favorite bands, they are pretty rough - but they are real!

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
19. The problem is, "the true artist", in most cases...
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 09:57 AM
Oct 2013

couldn't carry a tune in the bed of an F-350. You can HEAR through the autotune that the "artist" isn't anywhere near the note they are supposed to be on. They simply can't fucking sing.

The sad truth is that most popular artists today are just heavily marketed fashion models. They are selected for success by recording executives on the basis of their sex appeal.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
2. I think it works in that song, Cher's "Believe" always annoyed me with that Auto-Tune
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:38 PM
Oct 2013

Is it like CGI in Hollywood movies?


http://vimeo.com/18735772





jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
42. Once they give you the tools, you want to play with them
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 05:23 PM
Oct 2013

Not everyone wants keep doing those mediocre youtube videos





orleans

(34,073 posts)
4. didn't watch the video but i think she's adorable. saw her on a talk show &
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:54 PM
Oct 2013

a commercial lately. "i kissed a girl" was one of the big fun songs of the last ten years.

petronius

(26,603 posts)
6. I'd love to be lost in the jungle with her
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:06 PM
Oct 2013

She seems to be extremely skilled at constructing shelter, acquiring food, and domesticating wild creatures...

(Not real fond of that song, however - but at least it's not catchy enough to create a painful earworm.)

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
8. When I was younger, we'd laugh at Madonna's paint-by-numbers
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:14 PM
Oct 2013

lyrics and songs. Looks like there's a new queen of that in town.

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
13. Exactly....
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 09:20 PM
Oct 2013

that's what I tell my husband when he's bitching about some "new" music. I'm just glad we grew up when there was such a sea change in music - a wonderful time of discovery. It's tough to find acts today (men OR women) that can actually play an instrument and/or write music. Much less carry a tune.

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
27. Your hatred of Genesis and Rush has lasted so long...
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 08:27 PM
Oct 2013

I don't think anyone will remember Katy Perry enough to hold a grudge against her for that long.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
12. In her defense
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 08:53 PM
Oct 2013

And I don't mean defense talent-wise, just as a human being: she posts a lot of pictures of herself without makeup, so that young girls don't think they have to look like that all the time. She wants people to know its fake.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
17. Well then at least she's trying, in her own way,
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 10:23 PM
Oct 2013

to improve the lives of her female fans, so that's a good thing.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
15. I find her amusing.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 10:07 PM
Oct 2013

She does a send-up of the bombshell image, very tongue-in-cheek, drawing on glamor girl imagery of different eras. I like her visual sense.

as to the Autotune, that is the fad of this musical moment in time. Many are using it.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
33. Oh, yes, definitely better - she can sing, her voice is lovely.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 12:43 PM
Oct 2013

Perry's, OTOH, she's just yelling loud, and leaves it to the production crew to make it fit with melody.

I mean, a lot of people seem to like her, so that's fine. I just feel she's really plastic.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
34. I know she has been accused of being pro military propaganda, and now her new album is called PRISM
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 02:26 PM
Oct 2013

Writer Naomi Wolf urges boycott of Katy Perry video, calls it military propaganda

..

Prominent feminist Naomi Wolf, author of "The Beauty Myth" and one of many who were arrested amid the Occupy Wall Street protests last year, is urging Americans to boycott the singer, labeling her video "a total piece of propaganda for the Marines."

"I really want to find out if she was paid by them for making it," Wolf wrote on her Facebook page. "It is truly shameful... I would suggest a boycott of this singer whom I really liked - if you are as offended as this glorification of violence as I am."



Katy Perry ‏@katyperry 5h

HAPPY #PRISM MONDAY TO: Belgium, China, Czech Republic, Denmark, France, Greece, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Korea, Malaysia, Norway…

https://twitter.com/katyperry


I guess the hashtag #PRISM has a new meaning with 45 Million followers


Speaking of plastic, I even liked Paris Hilton's song.....

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
35. Yes, Stars Are Blind was good, harmless pop.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 02:48 PM
Oct 2013

As I recall, even Lindsay Lohan's record was decent.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
30. Oh my freaking ears!
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 12:20 AM
Oct 2013

Please no!

If you must cover Queen, and I suggest no one does, please at least have SOME power and try not to be tone deaf!




Tom_Foolery

(4,691 posts)
21. She's a lovely young woman...
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 10:31 AM
Oct 2013

Who has had her dreams come true. I am an old dude, and I think she has a lot of talent. Also, Russell Brand is an idiot.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
23. If DU were around 30 years ago
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 10:57 AM
Oct 2013

people would have been saying the same thing about Madonna and those that came after her.

Some of her lyrics are pretty good for young girls to hear as well -

You don't have to feel like a wasted space
You're original, cannot be replaced
If you only knew what the future holds
After a hurricane comes a rainbow

Maybe you reason why all the doors are closed
So you could open one that leads you to the perfect road
Like a lightning bolt, your heart will glow
And when it's time you'll know


That's from her song "Firework" - I think it's good that's she's saying you don't have to feel down about yourself because bad things have happened to you.

I'm not a big fan of hers, but my daughter likes her (she's in 6th grade). Certainly preferable to her liking Miley Cyrus.
 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
25. I wouldn't say she untalented.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 05:26 PM
Oct 2013

It's just that her talents are in self-promotion and marketing - not singing & songwriting.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
28. I love that video, and I love Katy Perry.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 09:13 PM
Oct 2013

She does not have a very good voice I will agree. But she makes cheesy pop songs, which I love.

If you don't like her, fine.
I wouldn't waste my time posting about someone I didn't like, but that is just me.


Off to listen to some KPerry!

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
29. No, go for it with my blessings!! Music is magical -
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 10:36 PM
Oct 2013

what works for me mostly doesn't work for others, lol - I posted a thread about Music Box Dancer, an purely instrumental piece from the 70's which was probably 100% forgettable, but since I recall it from my youth, I love listening to it - it kind of makes me feel young again.

So please, listen to all the Katy Perry you want!! In fact, you can have my lifetime dose.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
32. She has done a few decent non auto-tuned songs.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 12:33 PM
Oct 2013

She isn't the best singer.
In fact, I don't even like her... However, she does have some measure of talent.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
37. I like that song.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 03:57 PM
Oct 2013

Granted, pop stars are more about image than talent these days, but I think she sings well. If I'm not mistaken, she writes some too.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
38. Hard to tell about her but I DID like the production values on the Video. The quality and..
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 04:11 PM
Oct 2013

....images were pretty damn good.

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