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Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:03 AM Dec 2013

Saw a TV the other day that blew my mind!

Ok I'm a tech junkie I'll admit it. Good quality consumer electronics, everything from cameras to tablets, phones, TVs, AV equipment. It's porn to me I place a heavy emphasis on good quality though as there is a lot of crap out there.

The other day I was in the mall walking around looking for Christmas presents when I happened to walk by the Samsung Experience store. In the window they had this monster of a TV. It was a 4K TV and had to be 80in or more in size. They had it looping some promotional shots (these things are always over saturated and over-sharpened but they do serve their purpose to wow on the right screen). I've seen some smaller 4K displays in electronics stores and even they impressed me. But this guy!!! Never seen a display feel so much like a window onto another world you could just walk out into. wow. I don't know what the price was and didn't bother to inquire as I knew it was their Lamborghini show piece only for the super rich, mostly used to advertise the company.

A quick Google shows it was probably this sucker:

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-ca/product/samsung-samsung-85-s9000-series-120hz-4k-ultra-smart-tv-un85s9afxzc-un85s9afxzc/10247699.aspx?path=3b4dec624ce8bd13e8ce19b33b5d7bd5en02

$40,000

But then that's the price that 50in plasmas and the like first debuted at. Now those can be had for like $500-600. In time prices will drop on 4K like all other in demand CS stuff. Can't wait

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Saw a TV the other day that blew my mind! (Original Post) Locut0s Dec 2013 OP
It sounds amazing, my dear Locut0s! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2013 #1
If you can afford it I'm assuming you have such a room ;)... Locut0s Dec 2013 #2
TV Free Since 2001 - Save Your Money - Reinvest The Time In Yourself cantbeserious Dec 2013 #3
So what you going to watch on it that takes advantage of that definition hobbit709 Dec 2013 #4
I believe Sony already has a 4k media player out OriginalGeek Dec 2013 #7
If you wait until there's actually media available, the TV will be a lot cheaper too. hobbit709 Dec 2013 #8
THey've already come way down OriginalGeek Dec 2013 #10
$5K is about $4.6K more than I'm willing or able to spend. hobbit709 Dec 2013 #11
that sounds pretty nice! OriginalGeek Dec 2013 #12
Yeah trust me when you go 30in you don't go back :P Locut0s Dec 2013 #16
What brand? I'm typing this right now on... Locut0s Dec 2013 #15
Off brand Korean Irun. hobbit709 Dec 2013 #26
There is no native 4K programming at this time. MicaelS Dec 2013 #30
Wow, I havent seen that. The closest. I've come is lunamagica Dec 2013 #5
I saw this model with a regular HD TV program, it wasn't impressive. jakeXT Dec 2013 #6
Ohh definitely... Locut0s Dec 2013 #17
85" is maybe where you can start to see the difference between 1080P and 4K. EOTE Dec 2013 #9
Indeed that's true, probably why they placed the screen right up against the window... Locut0s Dec 2013 #19
I'd like to see a 4K videogame. Archae Dec 2013 #13
Video games can scale to any resolution technically... Locut0s Dec 2013 #18
I bought one but didn't really like the quality so I put it in the bathroom. progressoid Dec 2013 #14
Was it more convincing than this TV? csziggy Dec 2013 #20
Lol. I hope that was a staged "prank"... Locut0s Dec 2013 #21
Have you seen the Amazon page for this baby? Scroll down to the reviews. nolabear Dec 2013 #22
Haha lol... Locut0s Dec 2013 #23
So I posted it on FB and it got even better! nolabear Dec 2013 #24
.... Locut0s Dec 2013 #25
Who's responsible for hiring the crane? jmowreader Dec 2013 #27
Not sure why the box would weigh 100 pounds lol. But... Locut0s Dec 2013 #28
How would you tell? jmowreader Dec 2013 #29
If you can afford this TV, you can surely afford MicaelS Dec 2013 #31
The refresh rate is only 120Hz. MicaelS Dec 2013 #32

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,640 posts)
1. It sounds amazing, my dear Locut0s!
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:09 AM
Dec 2013

You'd need a big room to put it in, though.......never mind deep enough pockets!

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
2. If you can afford it I'm assuming you have such a room ;)...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:20 AM
Dec 2013

Gotta love some of the comments out there on electronics sites. One of them just stated "could be bigger". lol

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
4. So what you going to watch on it that takes advantage of that definition
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:24 AM
Dec 2013

Even Blu-Ray is only 1920x1080.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
7. I believe Sony already has a 4k media player out
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:58 PM
Dec 2013

it comes with 10 or so movies in 4k already on its hard drive. Blu-ray tech is capable of holding 4k movies so, just as with HD, as the displays and the players come down in price, more media will be released.


I'll wait though lol.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
10. THey've already come way down
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:26 PM
Dec 2013

You can get 65" Ultra High Def TVs for 4~5000$ at Best Buy today.

Still a little rich for my blood but by the time I'm ready for one they should be more manageable.



Can't wait till I can see my Cowboys fail in spectacular 4k!

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
11. $5K is about $4.6K more than I'm willing or able to spend.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:29 PM
Dec 2013

I'll stick with my 2560x1600 30-in monitor.

I'll settle for watching the Clownboys lose on low res.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
12. that sounds pretty nice!
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:34 PM
Dec 2013

i have dual 21 inchers but i'd trade them for a single big smooth monitor at that rez. You can sort of get 4k monitors but it's really just 2 2k monitors on a single panel or some such nonsense (for the time being)...and you need a big honkin' video card to push it. (maybe 2? I forget...when they started talking money I lost interest in the article.)

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
16. Yeah trust me when you go 30in you don't go back :P
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:41 PM
Dec 2013

Got my DELL 30in about 4+ years back. I will never go back to anything less than this!

Sadly it DOES mean you need something beefy to push it. This monitor was part of a crazy system I build when I was working at a computer hardware retailer (I've never been known to be practical when it comes to spending money on my hobbies ) I spent at least 700-800 on the vid card cause I wanted to game on this thing too and back then not much could push 2560x1600 at 30fps. If I knew the video card would fry on me a year later I might have gone with a cheaper card.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
15. What brand? I'm typing this right now on...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:38 PM
Dec 2013

I'm typing this right now on an older DELL WFP3007. 2560x1600 30in IPS. It was kind of pricey at the time, I think I paid about 1600 for it, but damn was it worth it

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
26. Off brand Korean Irun.
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 11:35 AM
Dec 2013

found it online at ebay after checking several forums and this was recommended. $620 including shipping. Perfect pixel guarantee. Ordered it on a Thur. and got it Mon afternoon. It was so bright I damn near had to wear shades. Turned the brightness down to 35% and it's just right after I set it up and calibrated the settings to my NNidia GTX 650 card.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
30. There is no native 4K programming at this time.
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 03:40 PM
Dec 2013

Therefore you will have to rely on your 4K TV having an upscaler.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
5. Wow, I havent seen that. The closest. I've come is
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:24 PM
Dec 2013

seeing an LG in Sears. 70". $16,000.

I can't even imagine spending that on a TV, but boy, it was really pretty to look at.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
6. I saw this model with a regular HD TV program, it wasn't impressive.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:39 PM
Dec 2013

Garbage in --- garbage out, as they say

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
17. Ohh definitely...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:42 PM
Dec 2013

In fact that would look worse than on a regular HD TV. Same as standard def on an HD.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
9. 85" is maybe where you can start to see the difference between 1080P and 4K.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:12 PM
Dec 2013

110" is when you can start noticing the difference without sitting uncomfortably close to the display. I think 4K televisions are rather silly for now because they don't make them in sizes where you can really appreciate the extra resolution. Now 4K monitors on the other hand, I intend to get one rather soon. I use a 1080P projection system at home and recently upgraded to 1080P. On a 120" screen, the jump from 720P to 1080P is HUGE. The jump from 1080P to 4K would be much, much less so due to being able to resolve only so much resolution from typical viewing distances. Also, there is pretty much zero 4K content available right now and that doesn't look to change for a while until they offer 4K streaming movies (which seems rather silly as they'll need to compress the hell out of them to get them a decent size). I do intend to get a 4K projector eventually, but probably when they're a 1/10th or less the current $25,000 price.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
19. Indeed that's true, probably why they placed the screen right up against the window...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:06 PM
Dec 2013

This was in a mall, everyone was "window shopping" and when you walk by this TV you are probably at a viewing distance of some 2 to 3 feet. At this distance it really does blow you away! But you are right at the regular viewing distance of some 8ft or so the difference would be subtle. The other thing you aren't realizing is that part of what is blowing you away is seeing an 85" LCD to begin with. That much screen real estate is rather impressive to look at to begin with.

Good luck on the 4K projector that will be nice

Yeah it will be interesting to see where content goes. Physical storage mediums of one type or another are the only way right now to distribute true unadulterated 4K content, in any reasonable amount of time. Some quick calculations show that a 2Hr long 4K movie is a number of terrbytes in size. It will take a rather long time before internet connections are up to snuff for that kind of streaming, unless like you say they compress the shit out of stuff. The flip side to this is the fact that up till this point physical mediums have been dying out in favour of streaming and or downloading content.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
18. Video games can scale to any resolution technically...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:45 PM
Dec 2013

I say technically cause the art assets and # of polygons in the models and landscapes would remain fixed which would make things look pretty bad. But technically if you have a vid card powerful enough all you have to do is run it at the appropriate resolution.

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
14. I bought one but didn't really like the quality so I put it in the bathroom.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:01 PM
Dec 2013

Plus the remote control was a little bulky.

Just to change the volume, looks like this....

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
23. Haha lol...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 10:43 PM
Dec 2013

Thanks for the link:

"
My wife and I bought this after selling our daughter Amanda into white slavery. We actually got a refurbished. It's missing the remote, but oh well-- for $10K off, I can afford a universal, right? The picture is amazing. I've never seen the world with such clarity.
....
"

"
I purchased this for my Atari 2600 and wow did it make a difference! Also, I am very thankful that it has low energy costs as I am on a very tight budget.
"

"
I was going to fund my daughters wedding in Hawaii, but I figured this Samsung TV would last much longer.
"

"
Has anyone bought this yet? My wife told me that she would leave me if I purchased it and I was wondering if this TV would be worth it.
"



That first one is actually much longer and detailed lol.

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
24. So I posted it on FB and it got even better!
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 10:56 PM
Dec 2013

My nephew (he's in his 20s but...oops!) replied "Is that a half naked man?" I had no idea what he was talking about until I went back to the page and scrolled to the line of "Other things customers who looked at this also looked at" items. Go there. When you see what you're looking for, go read the reviews of THAT!

I'm going to be sore from laughing tomorrow.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
27. Who's responsible for hiring the crane?
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 06:29 AM
Dec 2013

The thing weighs damn near 200 pounds and the box it comes in weighs well over 100 all on its own. I believe in proper packing...but damn, son, didn't they go overboard?

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
28. Not sure why the box would weigh 100 pounds lol. But...
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 06:47 AM
Dec 2013

When you are dealing with a $40,000 fragile TV probably can't be too careful. I'm guessing Samsung doesn't want to have to deal with customers nagging them about dead pixels on this monster

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
31. If you can afford this TV, you can surely afford
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 03:45 PM
Dec 2013

A service to come and unpack the TV, hang it on a wall mount, and program it for you. Lots of companies out there offering this service.

Dish offers it through Amazon. Well worth it for the money IMO. http://www.dish.com/support/installation-services/

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
32. The refresh rate is only 120Hz.
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 03:50 PM
Dec 2013

LG and Toshiba have 84" 4K that have 240Hz refresh, and less than half the price.

LG

Toshiba

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