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Skittles

(153,169 posts)
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 10:10 PM Feb 2014

question for you southpaws

do you curve your hand this much when you write? I've only noticed southpaws doing this. An ex-boyfriend claimed it was from having to learn to write left-handed on a right-handed desk. What sayeth y'all?

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question for you southpaws (Original Post) Skittles Feb 2014 OP
In the "old days," Suich Feb 2014 #1
I do, but as I recall I learned to write on mostly big square desks (the kind petronius Feb 2014 #2
I do not curve the hand dixiegrrrrl Feb 2014 #3
Satan! nt onehandle Feb 2014 #4
Nope, I don't curve my hand at all. Demoiselle Feb 2014 #5
Southpaw here. I have never curved my hand. RebelOne Feb 2014 #6
Being left handed was discouraged when I was in school. Arkansas Granny Feb 2014 #7
Yes, same thing when I was in school, RebelOne Feb 2014 #25
that left-handed ex of mine taught my southpaw autistic brother how to tie his shoes Skittles Feb 2014 #8
One of my childhood memories Dyedinthewoolliberal Feb 2014 #24
I couldn't teach my sons how to tie their shoes mcar Feb 2014 #29
lol, she was more diplomatic than my ex Skittles Feb 2014 #31
I still have problems tying bows or shoelaces. RebelOne Feb 2014 #41
I figured out that I had to teach my lefty son murielm99 Feb 2014 #42
It's an ink-stain thing but it's also a cursive thing. blogslut Feb 2014 #9
I was a rebel and wrote vertically magical thyme Feb 2014 #14
I complied merely to pass the course blogslut Feb 2014 #15
I'm not a southpaw (had it beat outta me by my mother) but my two daughters are riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #10
No, I don't. A lot of lefties do, though. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #11
I don't. nt LumosMaxima Feb 2014 #12
yes, I curve my hand, but it's not due to right-handed desk but writing left to write magical thyme Feb 2014 #13
OK I tried writing backwards Skittles Feb 2014 #16
Proud lefty here davidpdx Feb 2014 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Chan790 Feb 2014 #18
I am a lefty Munificence Feb 2014 #19
wow Skittles Feb 2014 #20
EXACTLY!!! KatyaR Feb 2014 #27
I'm extremely left handed trixicopper Feb 2014 #21
kudos to your mom Skittles Feb 2014 #22
Bill Clinton didn't curve his hand nearly as much as Obama does DFW Feb 2014 #23
I have a theory about crappy handwriting Skittles Feb 2014 #30
I was there when he autographed something DFW Feb 2014 #32
i'm a fellow "hooker" Enrique Feb 2014 #26
HOOKER Skittles Feb 2014 #39
I don't mcar Feb 2014 #28
I'm a lefty and I don't hook my hand, but my hand is always covered in ink. myrna minx Feb 2014 #33
No, I'm a southpaw and never curved my wrist to write Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2014 #34
My mother was from North Carolina lunatica Feb 2014 #35
Being a southpaw and therefore inherently diabolical, I don't write at all Orrex Feb 2014 #36
I GIVE AMBIDEXDTROUS ASS KICKINGS Skittles Feb 2014 #37
Yeah, I curve my hand that much - LibertyLover Feb 2014 #38
No, I do not. GreenEyedLefty Feb 2014 #40

petronius

(26,602 posts)
2. I do, but as I recall I learned to write on mostly big square desks (the kind
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 10:15 PM
Feb 2014

with the fold-up lid and the separate chair). I don't recall encountering the smaller desks or the swing-up-table amphitheater seating until college - and the illegibility of my penmanship was firmly developed by then.

I suspect it's not the desks, it's because it would be difficult to 'push' the pen when writing left to right...

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)
5. Nope, I don't curve my hand at all.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 10:46 PM
Feb 2014

I remember being surprised when I realized that other lefties often do. It was never an issue ….or at least I don't remember if it was...

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
6. Southpaw here. I have never curved my hand.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 10:47 PM
Feb 2014

And when I went to school all the desks were for right-handers. The only time I had to curve my hand was when writing on a spiral notebook. Why is it taken for granted that everyone is right-handed?

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
7. Being left handed was discouraged when I was in school.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 11:01 PM
Feb 2014

It was considered "wrong". The word sinister means of the left or left handed.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
8. that left-handed ex of mine taught my southpaw autistic brother how to tie his shoes
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 11:18 PM
Feb 2014

we were all, of course, teaching him all wrong

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,577 posts)
24. One of my childhood memories
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 07:15 PM
Feb 2014

is of my mother trying to teach me to tie my shoes. She literally said "Aha!" and smiling at me said, 'I realize now what I've been showing you is backwards, for you. No wonder you weren't learning" She figured out that showing me as a left hander would make it easier for me, a left hander, to learn. She was right!

mcar

(42,334 posts)
29. I couldn't teach my sons how to tie their shoes
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 08:23 PM
Feb 2014

For that reason. I tried the backward thing and it just didn't work. My husband had to teach them.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
31. lol, she was more diplomatic than my ex
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 12:41 AM
Feb 2014

if I recall right he said, "What are you all.......stupid?" We thought he wasn't learning because he was autistic.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
41. I still have problems tying bows or shoelaces.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 09:13 PM
Feb 2014

No one taught me when I was a kid and I learned on my own which was backwards and I still do it that way.

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
42. I figured out that I had to teach my lefty son
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 01:23 AM
Feb 2014

by doing it backwards for me. But I have a lefty brother, so it was easy enough to figure out. Teaching him to bat a baseball was much the same. But I do remember going to speak with his Little League coach about how I had done it. He was nice about it, and found it useful.

I do a lot of things with my left hand anyway. Maybe it comes from learning to play the cello at an early age.

blogslut

(38,002 posts)
9. It's an ink-stain thing but it's also a cursive thing.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 12:36 AM
Feb 2014

Proper cursive inclines to the right and it's cramp-inducing for a lefty to write that way. In 1960's penmanship, vertical or 'back-handed' cursive was forbidden. There were two ways to deal with it: Curl the hand over the top of the line or turn the paper diagonally.

blogslut

(38,002 posts)
15. I complied merely to pass the course
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 03:16 AM
Feb 2014

I think, with me, penmanship was mostly taught in second/third grade. That's when I adopted the diagonal paper thing. After third grade, my handwriting techniques went all over the place, back-hand, vertical, print only...

As an adult, I write in a mish-mash of print/cursive that's mostly vertical with a wee lean to the right for my signature.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
10. I'm not a southpaw (had it beat outta me by my mother) but my two daughters are
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 12:44 AM
Feb 2014

They both curl their arms that way when they write. They're 26 and 17...




Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
11. No, I don't. A lot of lefties do, though.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 12:56 AM
Feb 2014

I always had a left-handed desk in school if that has anything to do with, maybe.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
13. yes, I curve my hand, but it's not due to right-handed desk but writing left to write
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 01:47 AM
Feb 2014

drags your hand over the writing, so you curve your hand to keep it from smudging the ink or pencil. If we wrote right to left, it would be the righties having to curve their hands.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
16. OK I tried writing backwards
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 05:35 AM
Feb 2014

with my right hand, going to the left (using block letters) and I don't touch the writing at all - I will say however that when I curve my hand it does seem easier on my wrist - a more natural positon

Response to Skittles (Original post)

Munificence

(493 posts)
19. I am a lefty
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 05:52 PM
Feb 2014

and I bend my wrist like this.

Outside of spirals, ink smears and right handed desk complicating the problem I think it boils down to the fact that we are "pushing a pen" across the paper to write where right-handed folks get to "pull the pen". If you are pushing something in your finger tips and requiring detail (like writing) then you need to "cup" your wrist to add stability for accuracy.

If you are pulling something with your fingers then it "flows" easier by not having a cupped hand.

KatyaR

(3,445 posts)
27. EXACTLY!!!
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 07:47 PM
Feb 2014

My mom taught me to write. I don't do the curl thing, thank goodness, I think that would be really painful after a while. I also can write beautifully perfect cursive backwards. I used to take notes like that when I was in college and then go back and rewrite them the "right" way. I had clearer notes and it reinforced my learning as well.

Long live lefties!!!

trixicopper

(62 posts)
21. I'm extremely left handed
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 06:25 PM
Feb 2014

When we were taught cursive writing we learned to tilt the paper. To the left for righties and to the right for lefties. I don't write backhanded, but I do always wind up with ink on my little finger.

I did have a teacher in elementary school who tried to make me use my right hand. Until my mother heard about it and told her to leave me alone. Thanks mom!

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
22. kudos to your mom
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 06:28 PM
Feb 2014

my mum did the same with my autistic brother - said if he wanted to write with his left hand then bloody well let him

DFW

(54,405 posts)
23. Bill Clinton didn't curve his hand nearly as much as Obama does
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 07:12 PM
Feb 2014

But, then, Bill Clinton's handwriting is nearly illegible, too!

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
30. I have a theory about crappy handwriting
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:54 PM
Feb 2014

Last edited Thu Feb 27, 2014, 12:45 AM - Edit history (1)

we write badly because we think faster than we write

here's a pic of Clinton signing:

DFW

(54,405 posts)
32. I was there when he autographed something
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 05:38 AM
Feb 2014

But he asked I give it back to him, so I did. I do have a handwritten note from him that he wrote me after he left office. When it came, it took me about half an hour to decipher. I thought he had written it in Urdu at first.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
28. I don't
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 08:21 PM
Feb 2014

But most of the other lefties I know do. I don't know why I don't. I sure get tired of smearing ink all over the page, though.

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
34. No, I'm a southpaw and never curved my wrist to write
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 12:22 PM
Feb 2014

Right-handers were taught to slant the paper with the right-hand corner up, and left-handers were taught to write with the left-hand corner up.

When I arrived in college and encountered those chairs with writing arms for the first time, I solved the problem by sitting next to an empty chair and using THAT arm as a writing surface. Nowadays, I notice, they have a few left-handed chairs in most classrooms.

By the way, the only things I do left-handed are writing, eating, and using a needle and thread. I'm not SO strongly left-handed that I need to tie my shoes or knit "backwards" or buy a left-handed scissors.

Left-handed supposedly occurs in a constellation with musical ability, language ability, allergies, and math. I was cheated out of the math.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
35. My mother was from North Carolina
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 12:51 PM
Feb 2014

She wrote the same way right handed people write without curving her hand. Maybe the desks in her school were not the same shape as the modern desks are. She would have learned to write 80 years ago.

Orrex

(63,215 posts)
36. Being a southpaw and therefore inherently diabolical, I don't write at all
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 04:19 PM
Feb 2014

I simply voice my will and the words are scribed on the page by wisps of unholy fire.

LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
38. Yeah, I curve my hand that much -
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 05:28 PM
Feb 2014

and yes, in part it was right handed desks, although lack of proper instruction when learning cursive writing also played into it. It's also to keep from smearing the ink. I will say that when I was doing Middle Egyptian in university, being left-handed was an advantage when we had to write hieroglyphics from right to left. For once it was all the rightees in the class who were smearing ink on their hands and not me.

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