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Who else hates insomnia???? (Original Post) raptor_rider Jul 2014 OP
Me! lovemydog Jul 2014 #1
Hey You!!! raptor_rider Jul 2014 #2
I'm good, dude or dudess lovemydog Jul 2014 #3
I'm trying to be awake raptor_rider Jul 2014 #6
Well, okay then, rock in with your awake self! lovemydog Jul 2014 #8
have you had a sleep study? easychoice Jul 2014 #19
You need to attempt to get your older boy on a normal sleep cycle. Jenoch Jul 2014 #22
Oh believe me raptor_rider Jul 2014 #23
way of life fo me or maybe I'm just a natural night person azurnoir Jul 2014 #4
Me too - night person all the way. lovemydog Jul 2014 #9
gardening camping (not nearly as much as I'd like) azurnoir Jul 2014 #10
I think I might just be a night person. murielm99 Jul 2014 #5
I fell asleep around 9:00 raptor_rider Jul 2014 #7
I've had it for months shenmue Jul 2014 #11
I hope you find some relief, raptor_rider. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #12
I had insomnia a lot when I was in PA School. Aristus Jul 2014 #13
Some friendly advice... unapatriciated Jul 2014 #14
I would raptor_rider Jul 2014 #18
I've had a lifetime of insomnia LynneSin Jul 2014 #15
I've always been a night owl raptor_rider Jul 2014 #20
I have had it for years. RebelOne Jul 2014 #16
Some "sleep hygiene" tips I got from my therapist that have helped me: Coventina Jul 2014 #17
sleep hygiene tips... IcyPeas Jul 2014 #31
The scent of lavender is known to make people feel relaxed- marzipanni Jul 2014 #37
I'm learning to live with it. blueamy66 Jul 2014 #21
I move my feet trying to fall asleep!!! raptor_rider Jul 2014 #24
Restless leg syndrome??? blueamy66 Jul 2014 #28
Yoga, meditation, breathing exercises help me IronLionZion Jul 2014 #25
I don't lose any sleep over it anymore Brother Buzz Jul 2014 #26
*raises hand* sakabatou Jul 2014 #27
I turn off the light switch and am in bed and asleep before the room gets dark NightWatcher Jul 2014 #29
Yup me. A side effect of the prednisone I take for asthma.... riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #30
I do, I do! 2theleft Jul 2014 #32
I'm going night 6!!! raptor_rider Jul 2014 #33
Bubble witch... 2theleft Jul 2014 #35
is there anyone here who loves insomnia?? Douglas Carpenter Jul 2014 #34
I don't like myself much so sleep isn't so great. mucifer Jul 2014 #36
Too bad looking at any bright screens is a no-no for getting sleepy. marzipanni Jul 2014 #38

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
3. I'm good, dude or dudess
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 04:24 AM
Jul 2014

Took a long walk today. Just chillin' - reading all the hostilities (along with the occasional great post) in general discussion. A thought - too many take an 'all or nothing' approach to posting. Rather than non-defensively trying to listen to what the poster is saying, they project their own fears or biases, and presume things that are not there. Then, they misrepresent what the poster was actually trying to say. And a fight begins. I'm interested in the dynamics. But it makes me kind of sad. Every post doesn't have to be some sort of declaratory 'this is the post to end all discussion' type of thing. It might also be a 'well, I can see your point of view, but here's another way of looking at it from my perspective' type of thing.

What fun things are you doing this summer?

raptor_rider

(1,014 posts)
6. I'm trying to be awake
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 04:42 AM
Jul 2014

When my boys are!!! They are very close in age, very close!!! My oldest is 8, and driving me nuts!!! He will fall asleep around 4:00pm and wake around 12:00am my younger one, will sleep untill 8:00am and wake. So guess what??? Once one falls asleep, the other wakes!!! Leaving me awake!!!

I love my boys, don't get me wrong. They give me a lot of joy!!! None that I'd know I'd have!!! Granted in my fragile state, they do hurt me, however I don't care!! A broken bone, fuck it!!! I was having fu. With my kids!!!!

I am fragile, been in liver failure for 2 years, just my doing. Such a party girl!!! Made it better, however not enough. I'm trying for my kids, and my husband. They love me too much to leave them!!!

I'll take Insominia any day, compared to leaving them!!!

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
8. Well, okay then, rock in with your awake self!
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 04:50 AM
Jul 2014

Your kids love you. Your husband loves you. You love them. Kick ass! You're doing better than a lot of people!

Oh, I just thought of something fun I want to do this summer. I wanna go to an amusement park and ride a roller coaster. I'm gonna make it happen.

easychoice

(1,043 posts)
19. have you had a sleep study?
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 02:55 PM
Jul 2014

I scoffed.Then I did the test.I sleep 8 hours now instead of 3.I was just amazed.
I have sleep apnea,my brain was starving for oxygen and waking me up.I go to sleep right away and wake up rested,even if I only sleep 3 or 4 hours for some reason.like a nap or an alarm clock..
I haven't slept this well since high school.Check out a C-PAP,seriously.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
22. You need to attempt to get your older boy on a normal sleep cycle.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 03:18 PM
Jul 2014

I assume you have already tried this, but keep at it. Good luck.

raptor_rider

(1,014 posts)
23. Oh believe me
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 04:41 PM
Jul 2014

We are trying!!! Xbox controllers are taken away by 10:00pm. Can only watch youtube on the laptop. Or nick on the tv. He actually fell asleep at 11:00pm last night and slept until 7:00am this morning! I however was up until 5:00am!

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
4. way of life fo me or maybe I'm just a natural night person
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 04:36 AM
Jul 2014

I try to just roll with it but yes it can really really suck

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
9. Me too - night person all the way.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 04:53 AM
Jul 2014

I'm asking everybody, azurnoir - what are you doing that's fun this summer?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
10. gardening camping (not nearly as much as I'd like)
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 05:25 AM
Jul 2014

exploring none of which being a night person helps-I've thought about planting stuff at 2 or 3 am heck it'd give the neighbors something to talk about

Aristus

(66,446 posts)
13. I had insomnia a lot when I was in PA School.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 10:44 AM
Jul 2014

A natural side effect of the crushing syllabus and the constant stress.

When I couldn't sleep, which was two or three nights a week, I'd get up and study. That would alleviate a lot of the anxiety about exams. And some of the more boring material would help lull me to sleep.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
15. I've had a lifetime of insomnia
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 12:00 PM
Jul 2014

Part of it is realizing I"m just a night owl and not a morning person. And yes I've been tested. I won't take Ambien but I still use over the counter sleep aid especially Sunday nights when I have the worst time getting to sleep. I am now finding that it helps to listen to music when I try getting to sleep so I'll pick a mellow album from my Ipod collection and put in the earbuds. Usually by morning the ear buds will be out of my ears and it does help me get some sleep.

Last night it was Iron & Wine 'Our Endless Numbered Days' album I used to fall asleep.

raptor_rider

(1,014 posts)
20. I've always been a night owl
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 02:57 PM
Jul 2014

However with it being summer, and two kids under 10 at home, it's getting rough.

Now I have to prep them back into a normal sleeping pattern to go back to school in less than a month!!! It's just wearing on me...

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
16. I have had it for years.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 01:40 PM
Jul 2014

In order to get to sleep, I have to drink almost a whole bottle of wine and take an over-the-counter sleeping pill. But I will often wake up in the middle of the night and can't get back to sleep and have to take another sleeping pill.

When I was working, I had no problem sleeping through the night, and I would automatically wake at 4:30 a.m. without the alarm. I have been retired for 4-12 years and have a problem sleeping since I retired. I still sometimes wake at 4:30 now and have to force myself back to sleep.

Coventina

(27,169 posts)
17. Some "sleep hygiene" tips I got from my therapist that have helped me:
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 02:08 PM
Jul 2014

1. No caffeine after 5 pm
2. No work (as in checking your work email, doing business, etc.) after you get home.
3. Keep your bedroom as cool as possible, no warmer than 75 degrees if you can.
4. Wear cuddly socks on your feet. Sounds crazy, I didn't like the idea at all, but it really helps for some reason!
5. If you are still awake after 30 minutes, get up for 30 minutes before going back to bed.
6. Keep a scented lotion beside the bed. Using it before bedtime will cue your brain that it's "sleep time" now.

Of course, different things work for different people. I'm just putting those out there for you, if you haven't tried them already.

IcyPeas

(21,901 posts)
31. sleep hygiene tips...
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 12:09 AM
Jul 2014

I have heard of, and tried, some of these. I was told if you can't sleep to get up and do something BORING -- don't watch tv -- too stimulating - do filing or something really boring.

Never heard of the scented lotion thing either. I like that idea.

thanks

marzipanni

(6,011 posts)
37. The scent of lavender is known to make people feel relaxed-
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 12:45 AM
Jul 2014

baby supplies manufacturers make baby bedtime bath stuff and lotions scented with lavender because of this.

Aveeno makes a vanilla-lavender lotion for babies, and for the rest of us, Stress Relief Moisturizing Lotion- "calms and relaxes with lavender, chamomile, and ylang-ylang". Also, natural foods stores have stuff scented with lavender.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
21. I'm learning to live with it.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 03:03 PM
Jul 2014

My BF works 6 pm to 6 am. I sleep for maybe 3 hours.

The upside? I've watched a crapload of movies!

Anybody else move their feet...almost like a beat to a song?

raptor_rider

(1,014 posts)
24. I move my feet trying to fall asleep!!!
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 04:45 PM
Jul 2014

I love my Netflix and Solar Movie!!! However Solar Movie website has been in a fix for the past few days. Get to watch some of the newest movies there, without going to the theater! Just have to pick the good links that don't pop up many ads. And never download an app to watch. Filled with malware!!!

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
28. Restless leg syndrome???
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 05:56 PM
Jul 2014

BF has every movie channel and I get DVDs from the library.

And of course I have to go to IMDB to check out the info on the movie that I just watched.

Lord help me...

IronLionZion

(45,516 posts)
25. Yoga, meditation, breathing exercises help me
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 04:52 PM
Jul 2014

I figured I probably had anxiety/stress issues. If I have too much swirling around in my head, I can't sleep. It can be frustrating.

No caffeine after 5. Exercise of some sort helps, anything to get rid of some excess energy. And warm chamomile tea. I only take melatonin pills if its really bad. Other helpful supplements I've used were 5-htp, and the various relaxation teas like kava, valerian root, etc. There are also other lifestyle or diet changes that may help as certain foods can keep one awake. Wine really keeps me awake at night so I avoid it.

http://www.yogiproducts.com/products/category/rest-relax-teas/

http://www.buzzfeed.com/amandam10/10-types-of-tea-thatll-calm-your-ass-down-1kzg

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/6-tea-ingredients-that-can-help-you-unwind-relax-and-chill-out/#axzz388dAOysO

Brother Buzz

(36,458 posts)
26. I don't lose any sleep over it anymore
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 05:11 PM
Jul 2014

I suffered for a couple of year because I was really sick. Really sick. When I was finally diagnosed stage four cancer and had ass kicking surgery, then mind whacking chemotherapy, followed by years of blood works and worrying (think Money Worries by The Maytones), my oncologist declared me 'cured' (something he admitted he doesn't get to say often enough). After all that shit was behind me, I started sleeping restfully, and without any drugs.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
29. I turn off the light switch and am in bed and asleep before the room gets dark
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 06:42 PM
Jul 2014

I could go lay down in the driveway and be asleep in two minutes.

My wife hates how fast I fall asleep. She has to play word games on her phone for 15-30 minutes to wind down.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
30. Yup me. A side effect of the prednisone I take for asthma....
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 07:31 PM
Jul 2014

But I can breathe. Finally. Daily.

Its worth the trade off for me.

Good luck to you. I hope you can find some relief soon....




2theleft

(1,136 posts)
32. I do, I do!
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 12:51 AM
Jul 2014

I'm on 3rd night in a row. Seems this happens every few months. Summers are rough - my boyfriend's kids are 16 and 14 and they are on their "summer" schedule which sounds like your oldest son's schedule. I am a light sleeper so hear them rooting around for snacks, going to the bathroom, whatever. I cannot wait for school to start back up!!

I did take an ambien earlier. It didn't work, clearly.

Hope you get some rest soon!

raptor_rider

(1,014 posts)
33. I'm going night 6!!!
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 04:40 AM
Jul 2014

Slept maybe 3 hours! And I'm fully awake!!! Everyone else is a sleep, but me!!! Woke around 1:30am my time. Playing bubble witch to get me sleepy, however, is pissing me off!! Go figure!!! It's now 20 till 3:00am my time!!!

2theleft

(1,136 posts)
35. Bubble witch...
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 10:14 PM
Jul 2014

Yes. That or farm heroes for me in the middle of the night.

It is pissing me off as well. Release that freaking ghost....

mucifer

(23,560 posts)
36. I don't like myself much so sleep isn't so great.
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 10:29 PM
Jul 2014

I have trouble falling asleep and often waken frequently. Sometimes I sleep ok.

marzipanni

(6,011 posts)
38. Too bad looking at any bright screens is a no-no for getting sleepy.
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 12:57 AM
Jul 2014

Last edited Sun Jul 27, 2014, 04:23 PM - Edit history (1)

Maybe in the late evening before bedtime we should wear those semi-dark glasses for computer use, or turn the screen brightness down.

Here's just one short article of many about this-
http://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/news/20030620/nighttime-computer-users-may-lose-sleep

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