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Coventina

(27,172 posts)
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 11:07 AM Aug 2014

Anyone else ever experience a personal bout of schadenfreude?

I'm having one right now.

I don't want to give too many personal details...but the jist is this:

My sister-in-law organized a family outing designed to hurt me very deeply and personally. It also excluded me.
While her parents (my mother & father in law) were away on this trip, the hose to their dishwasher broke and flooded the house.

Hence, my schadenfreude.

It would have been better had it been my sister-in-law's house that was flooded and damaged.
After all, my MIL & FIL are the ones caught in the middle.
That's the "shame" part of the "shameful-joy".

Anyone else feel like confessing their schadenfreude episodes?

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Anyone else ever experience a personal bout of schadenfreude? (Original Post) Coventina Aug 2014 OP
Personally, RobinA Aug 2014 #1
Oh my gosh! You reminded me of something that happened to me a long time ago. Coventina Aug 2014 #5
"Bite me, Parklane Hosiery. I'm not in retail anymore, but I did have a good run." BlueJazz Aug 2014 #16
I imagine anybody who has ever been screwed over has had those episodes... Tom_Foolery Aug 2014 #2
Yep. Relative who treated spouses atrociously is currently getting all of that back, and more. politicat Aug 2014 #3
That does sound karmic-dance worthy! Coventina Aug 2014 #6
I have many Sherman A1 Aug 2014 #4
That is an excellent methodology which I have recently learned ... LisaLynne Aug 2014 #8
Indeed it does work wonders Sherman A1 Aug 2014 #13
I Have My RobinA Aug 2014 #10
Always a good one Sherman A1 Aug 2014 #12
This one is minor, but it's a bigger deal if you know the history of my relationship with my brother LisaLynne Aug 2014 #7
Ooo! The "uninvite" is one of my pet peeves. Coventina Aug 2014 #9
Yes. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2014 #11
at my odious part time job right now magical thyme Aug 2014 #14
"Work like you don't need the money." Callmecrazy Aug 2014 #15
I have been working with computers since the late 1970s Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2014 #17
Holy Cow! Talk about instant karma! Coventina Aug 2014 #18
Well, the CIO got involved Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2014 #20
Yep - LiberalElite Aug 2014 #19
"Caught in the Middle" doesn't get them off the hook, in my opinion... Demoiselle Aug 2014 #21
"Caught in the Middle" doesn't get them off the hook, in my opinion... Demoiselle Aug 2014 #22
You are very kind, but I really don't expect them to choose me over their own daughter. Coventina Aug 2014 #23

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
1. Personally,
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 01:06 PM
Aug 2014

I enjoy watching places that interviewed me but didn't hire me die a slow painful death. Or the person who didn't hire me get the ax. Take that, Casual Corner. Bite me, Parklane Hosiery. I'm not in retail anymore, but I did have a good run.

Coventina

(27,172 posts)
5. Oh my gosh! You reminded me of something that happened to me a long time ago.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 10:13 AM
Aug 2014

I got fired by my manager from a small company for "complaining too much".

When I tried to apply for unemployment, he said I had quit, so I got zilch.

Then, a few weeks later I found out he'd been arrested for embezzling from the company!!

Apparently, the owners started to look at him because I had been one of their longest serving and most dependable employees. They started looking into what was going on, and found the problem - HIM!

I toyed with the idea of visiting him in jail to laugh at him, but decided he wasn't worth my time or energy.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
16. "Bite me, Parklane Hosiery. I'm not in retail anymore, but I did have a good run."
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 11:00 PM
Aug 2014

I like that pun (hosiery, run)

politicat

(9,808 posts)
3. Yep. Relative who treated spouses atrociously is currently getting all of that back, and more.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 03:17 AM
Aug 2014

When other relatives mention it, I shrug. Karma bites hard.

But inside, I am doing the dance of joy.



I'm sorry the family is being that cruel.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
4. I have many
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 04:24 AM
Aug 2014

mostly surrounding work, involving those that have all the answers, yet seem to not know the questions.

I call my methodology: "sit back and watch the show".

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
13. Indeed it does work wonders
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 03:46 PM
Aug 2014

particularly when what they tell you to do, is not what they really want you to do (which generally means do the work of 3 people at the same exact moment while we find a way to cut labor even more) and they then constantly change your instructions and criticize you for not getting finished.

LisaLynne

(14,554 posts)
7. This one is minor, but it's a bigger deal if you know the history of my relationship with my brother
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 10:30 AM
Aug 2014

My brother had invited me along to an event. Then, later, he decided that he'd rather take his kids and since he couldn't get more tickets, I was suddenly uninvited. Well, now it turns out the kids don't want to go and are refusing to do so. I'm trying not to gloat too much ..

Also, I just found out that this painfully arrogant guy at work who has been in line for a promotion for manager just had that offer revoked because he has failed to step up. His idea of managing was to prance around declaring himself one of the "big guys now" and pushing work off on everybody else, even those not on his "team", so ... it's pretty sweet.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,856 posts)
11. Yes.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 12:58 PM
Aug 2014

I did a little happy dance when a former employer that had treated me badly went out of business, even though that happened years later.

And I don't feel even slightly ashamed of my glee.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
14. at my odious part time job right now
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 11:05 AM
Aug 2014

They jerked us around a tad too much. They discovered that even with their convoluted "fired for quality" program they still had to pay unemployment. People started throwing quality in order to get fired. Some people couldn't hack all the 1-on-1s or 2-on-1s or 3-on-1s to beat them up for quality, so just up and quit. Co-worker who sat next to me got up and walked out without saying a word. Another just never bothered to come back from her vacation.

So many, that now my night team is extremely short-staffed, from the 7 or 8 that we had a year ago down to just 2. So now, suddenly, they're kind of kowtowing to us. My former evil boss is back on the phones on the busy nights.

I do what the fuck I want. They can fire me any time. I just don't give a fuck. I stop short of hanging up on rude callers, but just barely.

I take more breaks (not so many as to put out the other half of my team), and just don't give a fuck. We dress the way we want now; every day is jeans day. Go ahead. Send me home to change.

I'm just waiting for somebody, anybody, to look at me the wrong way and I'll pack up and walk. It's a good feeling.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
17. I have been working with computers since the late 1970s
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 08:33 AM
Aug 2014

About half the time as a Unix (or Linux) system administrator, the rest of the time as a C (or C++) programmer. In the late 1990s, I got a job as a sysadmin. I fairly quickly automated large parts of the job (for example, we had to change the root passwords on all systems every six weeks, which used to take two people half a day to do. I wrote a Korn shell script that let one person change the passwords in ten minutes.) So, I had a fair amount of time on my hands.

One group (I'll call it the XYZZY group) was complaining that some vendor-supplied software really didn't work the way they wanted, and I volunteered to take a look at it. I saw that I could probably give them what they wanted, and so I went to my boss to ask if was OK to work part time on the project. She said that as long as I could do the work she needed me to do, I should go for it. So I set to, and in a couple of months delivered a set of programs that the XYZZY group was quite happy with. Every so often, I was asked for an update, but that was no big deal. I made sure to charge the time I worked on that project to the XYZZY group.

There was a company re-shuffle, and while I continued in my sysadmin job, I got a new boss. He was shocked, shocked to discover that I was spending some of my time working for the XYZZY group (whose manager that he disliked personally). He insisted that I stop doing that work immediately, and he personally yanked my software from the system it was running on and reinstalled the old software that my programs had replaced.

Well, the XYZZY group started screaming bloody murder. The Chief Information Officer called a meeting, and asked my boss to explain just what was going on. He started by saying that I had yanked the software, but I was able to show from the computer logs that I had not been logged into the XYZZY system at the time it was yanked, and my boss was. He then said that I had not got permission to work for the XYZZY group, but my old boss said that she had given me permission. He then tried to say that he refused to pay for the time I was working on XYZZY software. The XYZZY manager said that I was charging that time to his group, and he was happy to pay for it. He then tried to say that it was interfering with the work I should be doing for him, but my old manager said that she had not found that to be the case, and my new manager admitted that in the time I was working for him, my work was satisfactory.

The CIO asked him for the real reason he had pulled my software, and he admitted that it was because of his dislike of the XYZZY manager. The CIO replied, "So it's because of personal pique that you disrupted the work of the XYZZY group, tried to blame Fortinbras, lied to me repeatedly, and are wasting everyone's time! You're fired!"

It gave me a warm and fuzzy feeling.

Coventina

(27,172 posts)
18. Holy Cow! Talk about instant karma!
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 10:58 AM
Aug 2014

That is definitely a "heart smile" moment!

Man, kudos to your CIO!

I have to say, sadly, that never in my entire working career have I had a manager that was willing to identify and deal with a problem that directly.

My best example is that I once had a coworker that everyone knew was pure evil. She would lie, cheat, steal, abuse everyone over which she had power (which included me). But, she was excellent at her job.
Her manager bluntly told me that she was too valuable to him to punish for her behavior. 15 years later, she's STILL THERE! And still hated by everyone but her boss.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
20. Well, the CIO got involved
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 12:11 PM
Aug 2014

Because the manager had unilaterally yanked the working software without telling anyone, and installed some unsatisfactory software in its place. The XYZZY manager took his complaint directly to the CIO (although the managers between him and the CIO supported him) and the CIO called a meeting that afternoon.

At the meeting, my boss lied repeatedly, and was caught in his lies. If he had said, "I was pissed off and did something stupid", he might have gotten away with it. But his refusal to accept responsibility, his attempts to put the blame on a subordinate (me), his acting out of personal pique and above all, his lies, really ticked off the CIO. She refused to put up with his behavior. She had the power to sack him, and did.

I, too, have come across co-workers who were pure evil. I remember one who tried to grab the credit for some work that had been done by someone else, who wasn't there at the time. Fortunately, everyone else in the group knew the facts, and we were able to put the credit where it belonged. Our boss was most certainly not amused, and the young man did not get good marks on his performance review.

I once worked with a young man who apparently thought he could get by on good looks (he looked like Pierce Brosnan's younger brother) and charm alone. In four months, he had produced a screen for data entry into a program, and a program that crashed when the project manager tried to use it. The project manager, who was a database guru, not a programmer, asked me and another programmer to find out why the program did not work for her. (The programmer was off at a class on that day.) Zach and I looked through the source code, and we discovered this:

if ((fp = fopen(filename, "w&quot ) == 0) {
         (sprintf(stderr, "%s cannot be opened\n", filename);}
fprintf(fp, whatever);

Assuming that you may have difficulty reading C language code (can such a thing be possible), what this does is open a file called "filename" for writing, and checks to see if it is actually open. If it is not opened, it puts out an error message and then writes to the file.

Both Zach and I had taught C programming, and we agreed that if one of our students had presented this code to us, we would have shown it to the class as an example of how not to do it. There are at least three errors (actually four, and arguably even a fifth) here.

I shall mention the fourth error first, because that is the underlying cause of the crash. The programmer had set up the file to be written to under his own ID (the default), and used the default permissions. The default file permissions say that only the owner of a file can write to it. Thus, it had worked when he ran it, because he had permission to write to it, but the project manager did not have permission to write to it, so it crashed when she tried to write to it.

The error in the first line is that if the file does not open, it returns a value called "NULL" (if it does open, it returns the location of the file). The exact value of NULL is compiler dependent, all that the definition requires is that it be an invalid file location. In the case of this compiler, NULL had a value of -1, not zero. So he was checking against the incorrect value.

The real error was in the last two lines: He just spat out an error message, and then tried to write to the file anyway. That is where it crashed. If he had done the correct check, and NULL was the return value, he should have closed the program gracefully, not just let it crash.

The fifth error was that when he put out the error message, he should have included a special variable called "ERRNO", which indicates why the file could not be opened. Bad permissions would have been easily indicated.

Zach and I showed the problem code to the project manager, and then the three of us showed it to our group manager. We all agreed that the young man was not a competent programmer, and he was let go shortly afterward. (He once came to me, asking how he could possibly satisfy the project manager. I replied, "Well, I give her working software in a timely manner." This did not make him happy. I had got roped into that project because it was way behind; I wrote a menu driven user interface in six weeks, and was beloved by the project manager. I got it done because I first wrote a generalized string input routine, an then I wrote a generalized menu program. The great part about the menu program was that it read the menu from a text file, so if you wanted to change the menu, you just had to edit the appropriate text file, you did not have to recompile anything.)

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
19. Yep -
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 11:07 AM
Aug 2014

an unqualified someone who schemed and connived and thus got the position that should have been mine - got fired. I heard it was something about suspicion of thievery...

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)
21. "Caught in the Middle" doesn't get them off the hook, in my opinion...
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 01:48 PM
Aug 2014

I think they should have stood up for you..
Don't feel bad about a little shameful joy in this case.

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)
22. "Caught in the Middle" doesn't get them off the hook, in my opinion...
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 01:52 PM
Aug 2014

I think they should have stood up for you..
Don't feel bad about a little shameful joy in this case.
I hope you can talk to your In Laws about this…if you can get to place where you can express your feelings without making them feel they're under attack.

Coventina

(27,172 posts)
23. You are very kind, but I really don't expect them to choose me over their own daughter.
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 01:59 PM
Aug 2014

Especially when she (my SIL) is using their grandchildren as bait.

(Yeah, it's really ugly).

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