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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 04:06 AM Sep 2014

I have seen reports of Windows 9, probably out next year...

and it looks really good. Although I'm OK with 8.1, it will be nice to have multiple open windows with all apps an a few other things that are on the way.

I know all about the kneejerk hatred of anything Microsoft, but I thought somebody might appreciate a seamless integration of desktop, laptop, tablet and phone with compatible apps and software.


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I have seen reports of Windows 9, probably out next year... (Original Post) TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 OP
Does it have anything in common with Windows 7? CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2014 #1
Should look a lot like 7, but... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #4
it will be more like Win7 than Win8.1 or Win8 is.... steve2470 Sep 2014 #23
Classic Shell gives you the look and most of the feel of Win 7 on Win 8 hifiguy Sep 2014 #26
true, I did a workaround to avoid the Modern UI nt steve2470 Sep 2014 #29
The multiple open apps sounds good to me Tsiyu Sep 2014 #2
I hear they're rethinking the swipe so you can turn it off... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #7
I hope it's better than 8.1 joshdawg Sep 2014 #3
I have 8.1 and Unknown Beatle Sep 2014 #5
I harbor an immense dislike for 8. Promethean Sep 2014 #6
I'll admit it's a pos to find out how to make changes... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #8
I Feel This Way RobinA Sep 2014 #32
Just get a Mac santroy79 Sep 2014 #9
PCs are cheaper, run more software, and... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #10
yea they are cheaper santroy79 Sep 2014 #31
And costs 3 times as much to do less. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #11
Well I have 12 year old PC's whistler162 Sep 2014 #13
it is good there are choices d_r Sep 2014 #14
some of us detest Apple, for starters Skittles Sep 2014 #16
I've used MacOs, not enthralled with it steve2470 Sep 2014 #24
Technology is a tool. Vilis Veritas Sep 2014 #12
Windows 9???? Le Taz Hot Sep 2014 #15
I'm desperately clinging to my 5+ year old laptop because I don't want to be stuck with Windows 8 Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #17
My computer is four years old and I'm hoping to replace mine next year davidpdx Sep 2014 #33
"it will be nice to have multiple open windows" -wait, what??? MH1 Sep 2014 #18
It's not as bad as it sounds... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #20
I've become a grouchy old fossil with a kneejerk dislike of anything Microsoft or Apple. hunter Sep 2014 #19
Finally, a Linux fan... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #21
Linux gets all my work done without any fuss or unnecessary expense. hunter Sep 2014 #30
Linux is a great OS, no doubts steve2470 Sep 2014 #25
One of these days I am going to have my computer-expert buddy hifiguy Sep 2014 #28
There's rumors M$ will simply call it "Windows" from now on... steve2470 Sep 2014 #22
Heard that, too, and the good news is... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #27

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,640 posts)
1. Does it have anything in common with Windows 7?
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 05:08 AM
Sep 2014

I have Win 7 on both my laptop and desktop, and I love it. I hope Microsoft will support it for some years to come.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
4. Should look a lot like 7, but...
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:29 AM
Sep 2014

I have 8.1 looking like 7 so that's not such a big deal.

A lot of enhanced functionality is supposed to be there, and even more stable than 7 or 8.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
23. it will be more like Win7 than Win8.1 or Win8 is....
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 01:02 PM
Sep 2014

The consistent rumors are that the Start Menu (yay!) is making a comeback, albeit in modified form. They are also, supposedly, making it easier to avoid the "Modern interface" (the thing most people hate with a passion).

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
26. Classic Shell gives you the look and most of the feel of Win 7 on Win 8
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 01:27 PM
Sep 2014

It was the first thing I installed on my new computer. I LOATHE the smartphone style interface of Win 8.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
2. The multiple open apps sounds good to me
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 05:35 AM
Sep 2014

but I wish i could turn off some of the random swipe crap when I'm in the middle of working on something. The swipe to get charms and past webpages showing up is a curse when you're word processing. This needs to be refined for laptops.

Overall 8.1 is okay but it took some getting used to. We'll see if 9 is a disaster before we try.

You can be our guinea pig

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
7. I hear they're rethinking the swipe so you can turn it off...
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:41 AM
Sep 2014

swiping works on phones and tablets, but not so good on desktops or laptops. I can already resize program windows like Wordperfect, Thunderbird and browsers, but I hate the fullscreen calculator or Solitaire windows and playing with the Windows key.

And the Charms bar might be going. Seems people either love it and use it all the time or hate it with a passion, so if it stays it will change.

We'll see it it follows the trend that every other OS release is the good one.

I find 8.1 stable and highly safe and usable, but If any of these leaks out of Redmond are true, I'm jumping on the next release.







Promethean

(468 posts)
6. I harbor an immense dislike for 8.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:36 AM
Sep 2014

Everything I consider important is hidden in non-intuitive places. Some isn't even available unless you do a freaking search for it. The damned control panel you must do a word search for! I mean for goodness sake it is a user unfriendly mess with tons of practical utility sacrificed to make it function more like a freaking phone.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
8. I'll admit it's a pos to find out how to make changes...
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:46 AM
Sep 2014

but it's often more configurable than other versions once you figure out how.

I hate it that I'll get a How-to Geek article and slap my head "You can do that?"

 

santroy79

(193 posts)
9. Just get a Mac
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:50 AM
Sep 2014

I will never understand why people buy PC computers.

I have work on both for years and I own a Mac. Its just a way better computer. Easier to use, runs better, more user friendly

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
10. PCs are cheaper, run more software, and...
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:54 AM
Sep 2014

don't come with snobby attitudes.

But they do come with a two-button mouse.

 

santroy79

(193 posts)
31. yea they are cheaper
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 08:20 PM
Sep 2014

but you get what you pay for

and they dont really run anymore software the Macs do. That was true like 10 years ago.

The new Macs come with a two button mouse which doesnt actually have any buttons. Its pretty cool. check it out the next time you are at a best buy or something.

I will admit as far as gaming goes PC is probably your better system out of the two. But I never really understood that either because if Im gaming Im jumping on my PS4.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
13. Well I have 12 year old PC's
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 07:13 AM
Sep 2014

running Windows 7, 32 bit. I can replace most parts in a PC without sending it to a "Apple" authorized repair shop. Oh and I can buy two or more new PC's for the price of a new Mac with the similar specs. But, if you have money to burn that is you decision.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
14. it is good there are choices
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 07:23 AM
Sep 2014

I never understand why people buy macs, but everybody is just different.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
24. I've used MacOs, not enthralled with it
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 01:06 PM
Sep 2014

If I was a video-editing/production person, I might be. The hardware is exactly the same on Windows machines. There's a rumor that M$ will sell one Windows version for X price, then make the updates for free, as Apple does.

Each to his/her own.

Vilis Veritas

(2,405 posts)
12. Technology is a tool.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 07:05 AM
Sep 2014

No more so than a rock or a hammer. The biggest problem that I think average tool user has with their technology tools is the constant need to relearn the tool. I can pick up a hammer, even a different type of hammer (ball pin, flathead) and I immediately know how to use the tool due to the simple fact that its form and function have changed little over the years. We can actually become masters of the tool.

A master carpenter for example, becomes a master because he can master his tools. If they were constantly changing the design of the tools and the method by which he can use them so that every year or two he had to relearn his craft, he would never truly 'master' his craft.

Such is the problem with Microsoft. They constantly change their tool and method of use.

I am not a Mac user, but from what I have gleaned over the years from my friends in the Graphic Art industry, they love their Macs, because they can master their tool as it is not an ever changing landscape like the microsoft os.

I could be wrong, this is just my humble tech guy opinion.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
17. I'm desperately clinging to my 5+ year old laptop because I don't want to be stuck with Windows 8
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 10:24 AM
Sep 2014

My wife's laptop has it and it looks horrible. Terrible. An abomination of abominations.

My laptop has Vista which wasn't exactly hugely regarded in its own right, but still is considered ions beyond Windows 8.

I only pray that Windows 9 is nothing like 8 and a lot more like what came before 8.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
33. My computer is four years old and I'm hoping to replace mine next year
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 05:33 AM
Sep 2014

I'd prefer not to go near Windows 8 with a 10 foot-pole.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
18. "it will be nice to have multiple open windows" -wait, what???
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 11:55 AM
Sep 2014

asks someone who has not moved on from Windows 7 yet.

IF that's what it sounds like, ya gotta be sh*ttin' me. What good is a Windows OS that doesn't allow multiple open windows?

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
20. It's not as bad as it sounds...
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 12:44 PM
Sep 2014

to make it work on a tablet or phone, when you click a tile some apps open full screen. The stuff everyone actually uses, though, work just like they always did. It is stupid, but they're fixing it.

But, I have mine set up to look and act like Win 7 and hardly ever see those tiles, or full screen windows, unless I want to play Minesweeper.

The whole thing is a huge jump from "traditional" windows, but ends up working very well if you don't fight it.


hunter

(38,317 posts)
19. I've become a grouchy old fossil with a kneejerk dislike of anything Microsoft or Apple.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 12:43 PM
Sep 2014

Get off my lawn.

Back in the Pleistocene of computing I used to look forward to playing with new releases of Apple or Microsoft software. Now they are about as appealing to me as a tattoo of Justin Bieber on a dirty old man's butt.



No, no thank you. No, really, I don't have to see that. I'm certain it's a very nice tattoo but I must be on my way.

But we all have our own kinks. I divert my personal computers from the salvage stream, reformat the drives, and install Linux. The last shiny new computer I ever bought for myself had a 386 processor.

I knew the Apple fans would post in this thread, so I figured I'd add a Linux post too. Linux does what I want it to do without any fuss and it runs comfortably on older hardware.



TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
21. Finally, a Linux fan...
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 12:52 PM
Sep 2014

I tried to like Linux, I really did. I was a fan going back to AT&T's Unix machine back in the DOS, Apple 1, and CPM days. (I even remember TRS-DOS, which had more potential than any of them if someone besides Radio Shack backed it)

But, I'm not a hobby programmer any more and just want to get work done. So, as much trouble Windows might be, Linux is just too much work for too little reward.


hunter

(38,317 posts)
30. Linux gets all my work done without any fuss or unnecessary expense.
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 03:53 PM
Sep 2014

It has the latest, most popular web browsers. It has writing, number crunching, and graphics tools that exceed my simple needs.

If I was locked into Photoshop, AutoCad, or the latest MS Word by work it might be different, but I'm not.

Linux is much more convenient for me than either Microsoft or Apple software.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
25. Linux is a great OS, no doubts
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 01:07 PM
Sep 2014

I'm lazy, I like the M$ handholding, I'll pay for it. I've used many Linux distros, so I could do it again easily if I need to.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
28. One of these days I am going to have my computer-expert buddy
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 01:29 PM
Sep 2014

put Linux on all my machines. He's been a Linux guy for years.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
22. There's rumors M$ will simply call it "Windows" from now on...
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 12:59 PM
Sep 2014

Last edited Fri Sep 19, 2014, 01:42 PM - Edit history (1)

No more numbers or names. Also a rumor that RTM is later this year, with full distribution around April 2015.

The technical preview comes out 9-30-2014, so I may install it and test it, indulge my masochistic side

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
27. Heard that, too, and the good news is...
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 01:28 PM
Sep 2014

that they're getting rid of most of the oddball variants we've had to deal with over the years. They fired the guy who gave us 8 and 8.1 was a big hint they remembered that you shouldn't piss off the market.

If you'll remember, Win 95 was just as big a leap back then but they sold it so well that people lined up to get it.

Seamless integration between phones, tablets, laptops and desktops with the cloud holding it all together-- the future will be interesting.

(Now, if we could just figure out why we want a watch hooked into all this...)

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