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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 04:56 PM Nov 2014

The Ten Most Underrated Guitarists in the History of Rock

http://blogs.westword.com/backbeat/2014/11/underrated_guitarists_all_time_video.php

To me, being underrated doesn't mean that a musician has missed out on accolades and commercial success. It means that, for whatever reason, millions of music lovers probably haven't been exposed to a certain musician's talents and thus haven't had the chance to enjoy him or her. So here -- up for potential enjoyment and probably heated discussion -- are ten guitarists I believe are history's most underrated.

10. Frank Zappa

That Zappa, arguably king of the iconoclasts of popular music, is virtually never listed among even the top twenty greatest guitarists in the history of rock is due mostly to the fact - unfortunate or amusing, depending on your point of view - that many of his transcendent solos occurred in songs like "Conehead" and "The Muffin Man." It often seems like 45% of music fans won't listen to Zappa because they don't want their rock 'n' roll with a touch of satire and 45% won't listen to Frank Zappa because, in the words of my first music editor, "It was all downhill once Zappa realized how good a guitar player he was." The lucky ten percent of us who are open to it all - from the blazing extended Gibson SG workout on "Willie the Pimp," which is my favorite guitar solo of all time, to the absolute shred-fest that is "Rat Tomago" - get to enjoy a bona fide guitar god who not only makes us bow down Wayne's World style but also laugh and think. ...

8. Joni Mitchell

Listen to Joni Mitchell's unique guitar work carrying a song like "The Dawntreader," or her brash, tasteful jamming with Jaco Pastorius on the experimental 1977 album Don Juan's Reckless Daughter. Not all guitar gods are what you'd call lead guitarists. Sure, Mitchell's phenomenally original rhythm-guitar prowess inspired a lot of annoying '90s imitators, but she's the real deal.

7. East Bay Ray

The polarizing Jello Biafra, with his funhouse voice, is a great spoken-word artist, and a great lyricist. Back in the day, he also had some of the best stage presence in punk rock. But for me, the Dead Kennedys are all about the vastly underrated East Bay Ray. Some people's go-to guitar-god tracks are "Layla," "Dark Star" or even "Sister Ray," but I could listen to about a hundred live versions of "Holiday in Cambodia" (the studio version is great too) with East Bay Ray's guitar isolated (like Freddie Mercury's "Under Pressure" vocals famously were last year) and never lose my sense of awe. The truly progressive and exciting music of the Dead Kennedys - often lumped in with straight-ahead three-chord punkers - is systematically overlooked because of Biafra's unforgettable eccentricity and political obsessions, but East Bay Ray's intermittently fluid and explosive lines on tracks like "Moon Over Marin" make him, to me, the quintessential lead-guitar voice of punk.
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The Ten Most Underrated Guitarists in the History of Rock (Original Post) KamaAina Nov 2014 OP
Kicking to listen to later! arcane1 Nov 2014 #1
I'm not...... sendero Nov 2014 #2
I don't see Steve Cropper listed there. Kingofalldems Nov 2014 #3
Probably because no one ever underrated him jmowreader Nov 2014 #6
Hidalgo of Los Lobos is vastly underrated. bluesbassman Nov 2014 #4
Prince is an incredibly good guitarist ... kwassa Nov 2014 #5
Hidalgo is No. 6 on the list. KamaAina Nov 2014 #11
J. J. Cale lastlib Nov 2014 #7
Guess you haven't heard much Rory Gallagher, then. malthaussen Nov 2014 #10
Rory was incredible. Could really do it all. Tattoo was one of the finest studio albums ever. bluesbassman Nov 2014 #12
Zappa and Prince always seemed pretty highly rated to me cemaphonic Nov 2014 #8
Joni Mitchell is about as much "rock" as John Fahey or Leo Kottke. Tom Kitten Nov 2014 #9
Jimmy Page says Joni is one of him main influences Beaverhausen Nov 2014 #19
Prince kicked serious ass on Saturday Night Live last week. Initech Nov 2014 #13
JONIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #14
Could we form a "Proudly Autistic Progressive" party? KamaAina Nov 2014 #15
We are the 1% (with autism)? Odin2005 Nov 2014 #16
David Gilmour ArnoldLayne Nov 2014 #17
Pat Travers lame54 Nov 2014 #18
Bruce Cockburn and Richard Thompson are missing from this list Beaverhausen Nov 2014 #20
There ya go gratuitous Nov 2014 #21

sendero

(28,552 posts)
2. I'm not......
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 06:14 PM
Nov 2014

familiar with all of those artists, but since I am with many I'd have to say that my musical taste/judgment does not square with the person who wrote that article.

For example, the first entry. I am a huge Zappa fan but I have never understood why anyone would think he is an exceptional guitarist. I hear flurries of linear evenly-spaced semi-random notes. The depth/mode of expression is flat, one note. I just don't think he is a top 10 at all.

But thanks for posting I'm always interested in checking out something I'm not yet familiar with. Such as the Verve guy he compared to Robert Fripp. If you can be legitimately compared to Fripp, you must be pretty good

bluesbassman

(19,374 posts)
4. Hidalgo of Los Lobos is vastly underrated.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 06:25 PM
Nov 2014

His touch is impeccable and his phrasing is always creative.

Prince is a top rate guitarist, and it's a shame he rarely gets the recognition he deserves for that talent.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
5. Prince is an incredibly good guitarist ...
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 11:36 PM
Nov 2014

and I don't know why he is not recognized as such.

and I have a great memory of spontaneously parking outside the Pantages on a lousy New Year's Eve, buying a ticket at half face price from an oversupplied scalper, and sitting seventh row center for a great Los Lobos concert. They are an incredible band, one of the very best ever.

lastlib

(23,244 posts)
7. J. J. Cale
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:14 AM
Nov 2014

There was Hendrix. There was Clapton. There was J. J. And then there was everyone else who ever picked up a guitar. Period. End of matter.

malthaussen

(17,202 posts)
10. Guess you haven't heard much Rory Gallagher, then.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 11:21 AM
Nov 2014

Although you could claim he's more "blues" than "rock."

-- Mal

bluesbassman

(19,374 posts)
12. Rory was incredible. Could really do it all. Tattoo was one of the finest studio albums ever.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:23 PM
Nov 2014

He was a suberb showman too. Never had the opportunity to see him live, but there is plenty of video out there of his performances.

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
8. Zappa and Prince always seemed pretty highly rated to me
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:38 AM
Nov 2014

Ry Cooder, Eddie Hazel and Marc Ribot would be some of my choices.

Tom Kitten

(7,347 posts)
9. Joni Mitchell is about as much "rock" as John Fahey or Leo Kottke.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 01:17 AM
Nov 2014

She's more of a folk guitarist. Or, a term I think was coined with her in mind when she became more experimental, "urban folk". Plus she's been an incredible influence on lots of rockers. I don't think anybody who knows about quality would consider her "underrated".

Same for Prince and Zappa. Both artists have legions of fans and are legends. Aren't they both in that stupid Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

East Bay Ray - well that could be a good choice, I loved his sound on the DK's "Frankenchrist" album where they adopted more of a garage rock sound. But what I liked about the Dead Kennedys was the guitars more than Jello Biafra.

Johny Ramone? C'mon! After the Beatles, the Ramones are the most influential rock band in history!

The blogpost is just clickbait. A list of ten and you have to click through three pages just to read stuff some guy who doesn't know much about "the History of Rock".

Initech

(100,080 posts)
13. Prince kicked serious ass on Saturday Night Live last week.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 03:13 PM
Nov 2014

I didn't want his set to end, they should have just let him do the rest of the show.

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
20. Bruce Cockburn and Richard Thompson are missing from this list
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 01:31 PM
Nov 2014

they are two of the best there are.

Oh, and Todd Rundgren, too.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
21. There ya go
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 01:51 AM
Nov 2014

If they're going to put Joni Mitchell on the list, then Bruce and RT should be there, too. And Prince is underrated? Only if you don't get out much.

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