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Marthe48

(16,959 posts)
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 12:02 PM Nov 2014

Why not lamb and mutton?

With the price of beef and pork staying high and probably going higher, why aren't more grocery chains offering mutton and lamb? I know people who raise sheep and would it probably increase their income if they had a bigger market for their stock. We live in a rural area. I see lamb offered seasonally, have never seen mutton.

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Why not lamb and mutton? (Original Post) Marthe48 Nov 2014 OP
lamb is pretty expensive here too. wish goat was more easily found La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2014 #1
Goat is actually a very BronxBoy Nov 2014 #6
what's the difference between lamb & mutton? n/t orleans Nov 2014 #2
Age antiquie Nov 2014 #3
thanks for the reply. n/t orleans Nov 2014 #5
AHA! I KNEW there was something wrong with that roast beef the Army fed me! pinboy3niner Nov 2014 #19
stench Kali Nov 2014 #7
lol. thanks for the graphics, kali. orleans Nov 2014 #10
I enjoy lamb. JimDandy Nov 2014 #11
In the US, pretty much nothing. US "lamb" would be called "mutton" elsewhere. Recursion Nov 2014 #20
Several reasons BronxBoy Nov 2014 #4
I love lamb, but I rarely buy it because it is so expensive. hedgehog Nov 2014 #8
pork is pretty cheap still Kali Nov 2014 #9
Yes. Most comes from NZ BronxBoy Nov 2014 #13
or rabbit? eShirl Nov 2014 #12
. GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #14
Lots of good information in the replies Marthe48 Nov 2014 #15
Why not kid? KamaAina Nov 2014 #16
Short answer, price sir pball Nov 2014 #17
Lamb shoulder chops are all I can afford Tabasco_Dave Nov 2014 #18
Do you have a middle eastern/Indian grocery store near you? Recursion Nov 2014 #21
S.E. Ohio Marthe48 Nov 2014 #22
Coshocton has one of the best Lebanese butchers I've ever been to Recursion Nov 2014 #23
A little far Marthe48 Nov 2014 #24

BronxBoy

(2,286 posts)
6. Goat is actually a very
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 12:54 PM
Nov 2014

Hot item in the Atlanta market. Most of the producers I know can't keep up with demand. We just need more processing facilities

 

antiquie

(4,299 posts)
3. Age
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 12:50 PM
Nov 2014
Lamb is a sheep less than a year old, typically slaughtered between the ages of 4 and 12 months. Older sheep is called mutton and has a much stronger flavor and tougher meat that many find distasteful. Mutton was a cheap food source for the military, and it was often overcooked and dry. Many American servicemen had their fill of mutton, coming home to declare it off-limits in the family home. This may be another reason why lamb has not become more popular in the States.

Kali

(55,008 posts)
7. stench
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 01:09 PM
Nov 2014

mutton is adult animals and if you are sensitive to that gagging off-taste it has a LOT more of it

I can eat seasoned grilled lamb or a mixture of lamb and beef, but I couldn't choke down a hunk of mutton if there was a gun to my head.

orleans

(34,051 posts)
10. lol. thanks for the graphics, kali.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 01:30 PM
Nov 2014

maybe i'll go throw up now.

(i'm just kidding--i knew i was walking that tight-rope when i asked the question)

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
20. In the US, pretty much nothing. US "lamb" would be called "mutton" elsewhere.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 05:17 AM
Nov 2014

In theory the difference is age (lamb is younger), but the US has much less stringent naming requirements on lamb/mutton, so outside of ethnic grocery stores it's all just called "lamb".

(As a side note, in India "mutton" generally means goat...)

BronxBoy

(2,286 posts)
4. Several reasons
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 12:51 PM
Nov 2014

With the exception of the more well known cuts of lamb, meats like mutton and goat are just not that familiar to the average American consumer. I think we will see this change as certain ethnic populations such as Latinos and Africanscontinue to grow.

Another reason is that in many states there are no legal processing facilities to butcher small ruminants like goats and sheep in a manner that will allow the sale of meat into larger retail establishments. In many cases, a consumer has to find a farmer and get it privately processed.

Things are changing but it will take awhile

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
8. I love lamb, but I rarely buy it because it is so expensive.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 01:14 PM
Nov 2014

I think I would like mutton as well, because I've enjoyed venison.

Kali

(55,008 posts)
9. pork is pretty cheap still
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 01:15 PM
Nov 2014

beef is getting outrageous (although as a person who raises it, I thank any buyers for allowing a little better income lately!)

direct marketing for sheep and goats is how most that I know raising them do it. Farmers markets or other local methods.

I don't know how rigid lambing times are compared to cattle (cattle can calve year round in a lot of milder climates), but lamb may be seasonal because it IS a seasonal biological event. I think retail lamb may be imported from New Zealand? somebody can correct me if they know more. def. not my area of expertise LOL

BronxBoy

(2,286 posts)
13. Yes. Most comes from NZ
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 02:10 PM
Nov 2014

I think there is also some coming out of South America. We won't see more commercial lamb from the U.S. until sufficient processing infrastructure is built among other things.

eShirl

(18,492 posts)
12. or rabbit?
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 01:50 PM
Nov 2014

We rarely (never?) see rabbit in US supermarkets, although it’s available everywhere in Canada and Europe.
http://www.motherearthnews.com/real-food/omg-were-eating-thumper.aspx#axzz3Imcc7T4V

Rabbit: A Great Meat Animal for Small Homesteads
Clean, quiet rabbits are easy to raise, even for urban growers.
http://www.motherearthnews.com/homesteading-and-livestock/meat-rabbits-zm0z11zmat.aspx#axzz3Imcc7T4V

Marthe48

(16,959 posts)
15. Lots of good information in the replies
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 07:05 PM
Nov 2014

My Dad owned a grocery store and we always ate a lot of meat. Over the years, my husband and I have cut down on eating meat, now mostly chicken, sometimes pork or a hamburger. I think I'll go to the local farmers' market and see if I can get lamb for stew. Thanks for all the good information!

sir pball

(4,742 posts)
17. Short answer, price
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 12:16 AM
Nov 2014

I love lamb and mutton both but the former is always seriously expensive even wholesale, and the latter is hard to find. As for goat and rabbit, they're both not only rare but tend to be a little expensive too, economy of scale and all that.

I'd say, for a normal consumer, whole chickens are your best bargain. Takes a half hour to learn to break them down and you get not only the breasts and legs but the carcasses to make stock with. There's a reason birds are one of the most popular meats in the world (behind goat, oddly enough).

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
21. Do you have a middle eastern/Indian grocery store near you?
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 05:29 AM
Nov 2014

If so you can probably get both mutton and goat pretty cheaply there.

Marthe48

(16,959 posts)
22. S.E. Ohio
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 10:55 AM
Nov 2014

Not a lot of ethnic stores near. I have friends who order lamb from a place in Columbus.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
23. Coshocton has one of the best Lebanese butchers I've ever been to
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 11:16 AM
Nov 2014

Though that may be far from you.

Marthe48

(16,959 posts)
24. A little far
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 11:31 AM
Nov 2014

We have gotten in the habit of driving as little as possible, trying to be green any way we can

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