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Which is the Killer, Current or Voltage? (Original Post) AngryDem001 Mar 2015 OP
The real killer is.... Wounded Bear Mar 2015 #1
Unless you defy Ohms law, the current is right now seveneyes Mar 2015 #2
"Don't completely trust your instruments" NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #3
It takes about 50 milliamps to kill. That's only 0.05 amps. Lionel Mandrake Mar 2015 #4
...provoded that current goes through your heart Major Nikon Mar 2015 #5
Point taken. Lionel Mandrake Mar 2015 #8
Even going from one arm to the other doesn't mean the electricity goes through your heart Major Nikon Mar 2015 #10
Yes, it does. Lionel Mandrake Mar 2015 #13
Actually it depends more on voltage Major Nikon Mar 2015 #14
Resistance is not futile..... lastlib Mar 2015 #7
Behold the mighty Resistor. Lionel Mandrake Mar 2015 #9
Join the resistance Major Nikon Mar 2015 #11
would you say this is a current trend? lastlib Mar 2015 #12
That was funny. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #6
 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
2. Unless you defy Ohms law, the current is right now
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 09:07 PM
Mar 2015

Cut through the barrier and do what no one has dared
Let's break the equation
E=MC2

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
4. It takes about 50 milliamps to kill. That's only 0.05 amps.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 01:25 AM
Mar 2015

Okay, I get it that this guy is a comedian, but ...

Ohms law can be written I = V/R, where I is current, V is voltage, and R is resistance. If you make R small enough, say by grabbing a couple of large metal objects with sweaty hands, V doesn't have to be very high to kill you. On the other hand, if V is thousands of volts, you can die even if R is 10 kilohms or more, which is typical for dry hands.

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
8. Point taken.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 02:16 PM
Mar 2015

The current will go through the heart if you complete the circuit from one arm to the other, or arm to leg, but this doesn't always cause ventricular fibrillation. It's a throw of the dice whether a shock causes fibrillation. Ironically enough, a subsequent shock can reverse the fibrillation. (That's the principle of a defibrillator.)

If the current doesn't go through the heart, then other mechanisms can kill you, but they require much more current.

Read more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrocution

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
10. Even going from one arm to the other doesn't mean the electricity goes through your heart
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:42 PM
Mar 2015

Electricity tends to travel on the outside of things, including the human body.

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
13. Yes, it does.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 08:03 PM
Mar 2015

Whether electricity stays on the surface or penetrates the body depends on frequency. The higher the frequency, the thinner the layer carrying the current. DC and 60-Hertz AC penetrate the body, and blood conducts electricity better than skin does.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
14. Actually it depends more on voltage
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 08:22 PM
Mar 2015

Skin provides resistance to electricity, but this resistance breaks down at higher voltages. Frequency is also a factor because alternating current will pass through skin easier than direct current. As far as electrical shock required to induce ventricular fibrillation, there are a number of factors such as how much and how long the person has been sweating, if at all, voltage, current, size and shape of conductor, length of exposure, etc. As I said, it's a pretty good trick for electricity to cause ventricular fibrillation, which certainly does happen quite often, but it also doesn't happen in situations where people might assume it would.

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
9. Behold the mighty Resistor.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 02:32 PM
Mar 2015


The capital omega is a symbol for the unit of resistance named after Georg Ohm (1789 – 1854).

The inverse of resistance is conductance, the unit of which is sometimes called the Mho and symbolized by ℧ (an upside down omega).

Who says physicists don't have a sense of humor?
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