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Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 08:04 AM Apr 2015

How Many Spaces at the End of a Sentence?

Lots of stuff from Google on this. My favorite title for a link is "Nothing Says Over 40 Like Two Spaces after a Period."

http://www.cultofpedagogy.com/two-spaces-after-period/

Here's what Wikipedia says:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentence_spacing_in_language_and_style_guides


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How Many Spaces at the End of a Sentence? (Original Post) Bertha Venation Apr 2015 OP
"Nothing Says Over 40 Like Two Spaces after a Period." Novara Apr 2015 #1
It's 2....always has been, always will be...the right thumb says so. Lochloosa Apr 2015 #2
I'm over fifty. kentauros Apr 2015 #5
I'm over sixty ashling Apr 2015 #12
Well, I do appreciate the rules for proper punctuation and capitalization. kentauros Apr 2015 #13
Nothing says ageist like the author of that article ashling Apr 2015 #10
Yep Aerows Apr 2015 #27
MLA, the Bible of writing, marym625 Apr 2015 #3
Two spaces says the person learned to touch type on a typewriter. hlthe2b Apr 2015 #4
Two are not needed anymore dr.strangelove Apr 2015 #6
While I did "learn" typing on an ancient manual typewriter, kentauros Apr 2015 #7
2, but it's not necessarily an age thing Renew Deal Apr 2015 #8
One space after periods, one tab to offset text, one return at the end of a sentence. Sweet Freedom Apr 2015 #9
^^^ THIS ^^^ Ino Apr 2015 #21
I am over 50 and have always used one. CBGLuthier Apr 2015 #11
2. The difference between a distance between sentences & a distance between words. n/t UTUSN Apr 2015 #14
Way over 40. Two spaces after a period and one after a comma was drilled into us Arkansas Granny Apr 2015 #15
Three years pipi_k Apr 2015 #16
I'm over 40 and I learned 2 on the typewriter LeftInTX Apr 2015 #17
Same here. I used to do a newsletter for a social group. kcass1954 Apr 2015 #33
I am 76 and when I took typing in high school, RebelOne Apr 2015 #18
I was always taught to do two spaces all the way through grad school Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #19
Two, FGS. Why is this even a question? (What ninny prefers"Two, FGS.Why is this even a question?") WinkyDink Apr 2015 #20
Aesthetically speaking, it looks better with two. Avalux Apr 2015 #22
I was taught it was two and LiberalElite Apr 2015 #23
TWO Skittles Apr 2015 #24
One after a comma Aerows Apr 2015 #28
It was always two - taught from WAY back in the day. cwydro Apr 2015 #25
One space is for the mouth breathing knuckle-draggers that can't count to two. Throd Apr 2015 #26
The energy expended on this 'discussion' amazes me! oldandhappy Apr 2015 #29
I was taught two spaces in seventh grade, on a manual typewriter. hunter Apr 2015 #30
2 spaces per APA 6th Ed. davidpdx Apr 2015 #31
Im under 40 and its always been 2 spaces for me Eyerish Apr 2015 #32
One on computer/phone, elleng Apr 2015 #34
Two spaces Optical.Catalyst Apr 2015 #35
one grasswire Apr 2015 #36

Novara

(5,842 posts)
1. "Nothing Says Over 40 Like Two Spaces after a Period."
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 08:07 AM
Apr 2015

Ouch, man. I resemble that remark.

Can't seem to break myself of the habit, though.

ashling

(25,771 posts)
12. I'm over sixty
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 10:22 AM
Apr 2015

I was taught to use 2.

Nothing makes you appreciate the two spaces to set off the end of a sentence like grading essay after essay written by students who don't even appreciate setting off a seperate paragraph (structurally OR stylistically)

... and don't even get me started on "kids" (how's that for ageism)
who use texting abbreviations i an academic paper

ROFLACGU ... for those youngsters who are texting challenged, that is:

Rolling On the Floor Laughing And Can't Get Up



kentauros

(29,414 posts)
13. Well, I do appreciate the rules for proper punctuation and capitalization.
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 10:37 AM
Apr 2015

And I will refuse to read any online diatribe that uses neither. If it was important enough to type it out, then it was important enough to break it into capitalized sentences and paragraphs. Thankfully, I'm not a teacher, or it would be an automatic fail

Go look at some message boards for writers and how they will lay into those brave enough to ask if they can publish their story in txt-spk

(For me, my quote "It's always been one" relates to never having learned the rule of two-spaces. Not because it wasn't taught, only because it never stuck in my head. And I'm glad it didn't due to how much typing I've done on computers over the decades...)

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
27. Yep
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 10:45 PM
Apr 2015

I learned that in typing class. It's two spaces after a period, even if kernel spaces aid a smaller space to a space.

You will probably never get me off of that habit.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
3. MLA, the Bible of writing,
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 08:21 AM
Apr 2015

Says:


Home > What Is MLA Style? > FAQ about the MLA Style Manual > How many spaces should I leave after a period or other concluding mark of punctuation?

How many spaces should I leave after a period or other concluding mark of punctuation?Publications in the United States today usually have the same spacing after a punctuation mark as between words on the same line. Since word processors make available the same fonts used by typesetters for printed works, many writers, influenced by the look of typeset publications, now leave only one space after a concluding punctuation mark. In addition, most publishers' guidelines for preparing electronic manuscripts ask authors to type only the spaces that are to appear in print.

Because it is increasingly common for papers and manuscripts to be prepared with a single space after all punctuation marks, this spacing is shown in the examples in the MLA Handbook and the MLA Style Manual. As a practical matter, however, there is nothing wrong with using two spaces after concluding punctuation marks unless an instructor or editor requests that you do otherwise.


http://www.mla.org/style/style_faq/mlastyle_spaces

I'm over 40 and I will always use two. Period.

hlthe2b

(102,283 posts)
4. Two spaces says the person learned to touch type on a typewriter.
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 08:22 AM
Apr 2015

It has taken me quite a while to stop doing so... With some computer fonts, I still think it makes it easier to read with two spaces. Still, I now only include one (or at least I try to).

dr.strangelove

(4,851 posts)
6. Two are not needed anymore
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 08:39 AM
Apr 2015

I know I am ancient, but back when I learned on my typewriter, two were needed because of the size of the typeset for a period and a space. It simply was not enough to look clean before starting the next sentence. Now, with computers setting perfect typesets for all figures, its just not needed. I still catch myself while typing a lot, in the stream of thought, but I try not to do it anymore.

"Nothing Says Over 40 Like Two Spaces after a Period." OUCH!!! That hurts.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
7. While I did "learn" typing on an ancient manual typewriter,
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 08:49 AM
Apr 2015

the two spaces rule was just one of many rules I promptly forgot after completing the mandatory class. I don't recall ever using two spaces after a sentence whenever I needed to type up a paper, and no one ever corrected me on that, either.

Eventually, we got a C-64, and I never had to worry about typing-rules other than where to place my fingers on the keyboard

Renew Deal

(81,860 posts)
8. 2, but it's not necessarily an age thing
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 09:27 AM
Apr 2015

Plenty of responses to that post were from younger people using 2. I think it looks better, but I also rarely can tell how many spaces are used.

Sweet Freedom

(3,995 posts)
9. One space after periods, one tab to offset text, one return at the end of a sentence.
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 09:59 AM
Apr 2015

As a graphic designer, the first thing I do when I receive copy is eliminate formatting that is double anything. In fact, professional layout software like InDesign comes with pre-programmed GREP expressions that eliminate double spaces and multiple returns. Two spaces after periods create unnecessary and unattractive "rivers" of white space. I can make a paragraph of text much more readable and inviting without the extra spaces.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
21. ^^^ THIS ^^^
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 09:23 PM
Apr 2015

typesetter/graphic designer since 1975

Thank goddess there's more than one of us who does it the right way

Arkansas Granny

(31,517 posts)
15. Way over 40. Two spaces after a period and one after a comma was drilled into us
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 10:44 AM
Apr 2015

by our Typing 1 teacher to the extent that, to this day, I just know I'll lose a full letter grade if I do it otherwise.

RIP, Mrs. Walker.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
16. Three years
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 11:10 AM
Apr 2015

of business oriented high school and another year of a business school...still doing the double spacing thing.

I'm 62

kcass1954

(1,819 posts)
33. Same here. I used to do a newsletter for a social group.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 02:05 PM
Apr 2015

One person wrote an article every month, and always complained because she submitted it to me with 2 spaces after every period. I reminded her that it was my job to edit the newsletter, and took out her extra spaces for consistency, and it she wanted 2 spaces, I'd be happy to let her do the newsletter. This was an almost monthly discussion for nearly 7 years.

I'm 60, and learned 2 on a manual typewriter. One is much easier.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
18. I am 76 and when I took typing in high school,
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 02:08 PM
Apr 2015

I was taught to use 2 spaces at the end of a sentence. Then years later when I went into typesetting and then copy editing, one space was the norm.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
19. I was always taught to do two spaces all the way through grad school
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 02:54 PM
Apr 2015

Then I became a newspaper reporter, and the copy editors pretty much had to put a gun to my head and cock the hammer until I finally learned to just do ONE space...and because of that habit, I just do one space (or just cop out and do ellipses)

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
24. TWO
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 09:58 PM
Apr 2015

I don't give a f*** what the "new rules" are - it will forever ONE after a comma, TWO after a period for me. IT LOOKS BETTER!!!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
28. One after a comma
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 10:48 PM
Apr 2015

Two after a period.

I learned that in typing class, and I had a hard ass nun that actually threw a typewriter at one of the students because she was being obnoxious/not taking it seriously.

You can BET I use two spaces after a period.

You don't do that shit when you are in an all-girl's Catholic school.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
25. It was always two - taught from WAY back in the day.
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 10:06 PM
Apr 2015

Now there's been discussion because of computer typing - that only one is needed.

I had to write reports for a living; it was known that leaving the two spaces was more professional, but they allowed the one space.

Most of the younger report writers used only the one, but many had also learned the two space rule.

hunter

(38,316 posts)
30. I was taught two spaces in seventh grade, on a manual typewriter.
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 11:10 PM
Apr 2015

I got over it.

My mom was probably one of the top 10 typists in the world in her day, She could type as fast as most people speak, rarely hitting the pause pedal on the tape player. (She usually used shorthand for transcripts of live network broadcasts...) She only hits the space bar once now, or else her software deletes the extra space.

I've never been able to type words faster than I think, but I was once able to accurately enter raw numerical data -- decimal, octal, and hexadecimal, then hit "Enter" -- while daydreaming.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numeric_keypad

Eyerish

(1,495 posts)
32. Im under 40 and its always been 2 spaces for me
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 10:42 AM
Apr 2015

Thankfully this author realized how snarky & ageist her original post sounded and issued what seems to be a heartfelt apology.
"The Price of Snark: What I Learned About Teaching from a Viral Post"
http://www.cultofpedagogy.com/price-of-snark/

Optical.Catalyst

(1,355 posts)
35. Two spaces
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:16 PM
Apr 2015

When a person is sitting in a cube farm typing out 'important' stuff, hitting the space bar twice sends a message to the lazy people surfing the net that at least one person is working. Doing it for several minutes straight shows the star worker is on a roll.

    type type type
    BANG BANG
    type type type type type type
    BANG BANG


(never mind the person is sending out a DISCUS comment responding to some teabagger on a blog site.)
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