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NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 01:40 PM Jun 2015

Game of Thrones - did Kit Harington just drop a big spoiler?

But on Tuesday, The Huffington Post sat down with Harington, and he let a new detail slip. The British actor told us how much he looks forward to taking a break soon saying, "I’m disappearing off the face of earth after publicity for ['Testament of Youth'], which will be really nice." Just to be sure, we asked if he would be taking time off before he returns to the set of "GoT," which he said shoots from July to December each year. "If I start filming 'Thrones,'" Harington said (the emphasis his own). "I can’t tell you if I do."


book spoilers at the link - be warned.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/04/jon-snow-fate-game-of-thrones_n_7496458.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592
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Game of Thrones - did Kit Harington just drop a big spoiler? (Original Post) NewJeffCT Jun 2015 OP
I don't think he did... Chan790 Jun 2015 #1
Is Lyanna Stark Jon Snow's mother? mainer Jun 2015 #2
I think he's the secret child of Lyanna Stark and Robert Baratheon. PassingFair Jun 2015 #3
Lyanna Stark was raped by a Targareayn mainer Jun 2015 #4
She was also loved by Baratheon.... PassingFair Jun 2015 #6
In the book he's described as looking very much a Stark Ron Obvious Jun 2015 #9
Her nephew. Rhaegar and Lyanna were together in the ToJ. Rhaegar is Dany's oldest brother. Solly Mack Jun 2015 #7
Oh yeah. Couldn't remember her brother's name. mainer Jun 2015 #8
It would also put him ahead of her in the line of succession. Chan790 Jun 2015 #11
Targaryen inheritance is all males first, so Jon would come before her. Solly Mack Jun 2015 #12
Jon is a bastard, though NewJeffCT Jun 2015 #16
Maybe he was born shortly before Ned arrived at the TOJ. Solly Mack Jun 2015 #17
Love this comic of the Tower of Joy flashback NewJeffCT Jun 2015 #14
Sweet! Solly Mack Jun 2015 #15
Spoliers below cemaphonic Jun 2015 #10
well said NewJeffCT Jun 2015 #13
Nah. Solly Mack Jun 2015 #5
 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
1. I don't think he did...
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 07:50 AM
Jun 2015

I think it's meant to be a teaser for those who are casual fans and haven't really read the books or thought about the theories. Which is to say it's the opposite of a spoiler as much as a teaser can be.

They're clearly building towards a specific big scene with him in the season finale. I think Weiss and Benioff are planning on using that as a big season-ending cliffhanger so he would have been told to drop ambiguity about it into media requests. There are a lot of people who are going to see it and because of the history of the show, read that act at face-value.

mainer

(12,029 posts)
2. Is Lyanna Stark Jon Snow's mother?
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 08:57 AM
Jun 2015

and a child born of that rape? This would make him a half-brother to Dany, wouldn't it? And of royal blood. This is driving me crazy.

I'm guessing that we'll learn the truth about Jon Snow's heritage when a dragon tries to fry him and he doesn't burn...

mainer

(12,029 posts)
4. Lyanna Stark was raped by a Targareayn
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 11:16 AM
Jun 2015

which would make Jon Snow (if he's Lyanna son) a half-brother of Danaerys. And maybe immune to dragon fire. I'm thinking of a huge battle scene at the end with the dragons, and one of them blows fire at Jon -- and he survives! That would be an amazing revelation to all.

Then he and Dany would rule the kingdom as brother and sister. The two most pure and ethical people of all the cast.

Not that George RR Martin needs my input. But c'mon, George.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
9. In the book he's described as looking very much a Stark
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 11:36 AM
Jun 2015

Just like Arya. The other children favoured the Tully side.

mainer

(12,029 posts)
8. Oh yeah. Couldn't remember her brother's name.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 11:28 AM
Jun 2015

I always wondered where Jon's royal blood comes from.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
11. It would also put him ahead of her in the line of succession.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 02:22 PM
Jun 2015

A lot of people think this revelation will be them teaming-up but I expect it to lead to conflict.

Solly Mack

(90,787 posts)
12. Targaryen inheritance is all males first, so Jon would come before her.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 02:44 PM
Jun 2015

But then Jon would have to prove a marriage took place. Which I think can happen - through Howland Reed and Lyanna's crypt.

I don't take it as a given that the 2 will become a team. GRRM is a wee bit perverse and cruel to his readers.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
16. Jon is a bastard, though
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:03 PM
Jun 2015

if he is Rhaegar and Lyanna's child, unless Rhaegar invoked the old Targaryen law about having more than one wife... (which, I think they had stopped doing for a few centuries?) I'm pretty sure Jon was born before The Mountain killed Elia Martell and her two children.

Solly Mack

(90,787 posts)
17. Maybe he was born shortly before Ned arrived at the TOJ.
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 09:59 PM
Jun 2015

Wasn't Ned in King's Landing when they died and then he traveled south? After fighting with Robert over their murders?

It had to take a several weeks to reach the TOJ - he stopped at Storm's End first - and I don't think she laid in a "bed of blood" waiting that long. I think, maybe, Jon was born just before his uncle's arrival.

And I also don't think Rhaegar, as caught up in the myth as he was, would hesitate to marry Lyanna.

Recall how Rhaegar read that he was supposed to be a great warrior, so he became one?

What if he was reading about the Lord of Light? Or about the next war with the White Walkers? Or some other book written by some long ago Maester?

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
10. Spoliers below
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 01:52 PM
Jun 2015

Swipe to read - >[font color="white"] Lyanna and Rhaegar are almost certainly Jon's parents, and it was probably an affair rather than rape. Abduction and rape is King Roberts take on the situation, but he's hardly a reliable POV on the matter. Jon would be Dany's nephew. You can google R+L=J for exhaustive discussion, but most of the actual in-book clues are in Ned Stark's later chapters in "A Game of Thrones".[/font]

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
13. well said
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 08:55 PM
Jun 2015

yes, when I read the books a second time many years later, it was pretty obvious when you put the Eddard chapters together. There is a bit more in the book version of the House of the Undying as well.

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