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GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 07:32 PM Jul 2015

Dear People Who Live in Fancy Tiny Houses...

You look so freakin’ happy in that Dwell Magazine article or Buzzfeed post, but c’mon, you can’t tell me that you don’t lie awake at night, your face four inches from the ceiling because the only place your bed fits is above the kitchen sink which also acts as your shower, and think, I’ve made a terrible mistake.

Look, I’m not criticizing you. I commend you for making this giant leap. Since we humans seem comfortable with pillaging Mother Earth of all her resources, I believe more people should think like you. But 250 square feet? What the hell happens when your tiny house partner farts Mexican food farts, huh? Where do you escape to? Nowhere. You have nowhere to run. All you can do is walk three feet to the other end of the house and pray.
...
I f’ing love the idea of downsizing and living a “simple life,” but seriously, where do you put your shit? You still have some clothing and shoes and towels and all that jazz, right? Or do you just wear overalls now? Overalls and Birkenstocks and one towel that you share with your entire family. Where do you wash that towel, hmm? Do you have a tiny river that runs behind your tiny house? I bet you do. I bet your whole Goddamn property is whimsical.

And I know your house isn’t that clean all of the time. In your pictures, it looks like you only own a tiny sofa, several throw blankets & pillow, one cooking pan, one antique book and one framed photo of you laughing in front of your tiny house.


the rest of her tongue-in-cheek rant:
https://medium.com/i-m-not-trendy/dear-people-who-live-in-fancy-tiny-houses-21fdc639ce55
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Dear People Who Live in Fancy Tiny Houses... (Original Post) GreatGazoo Jul 2015 OP
you don't own your stuff. Your stuff owns you. OffWithTheirHeads Jul 2015 #1
That's really true Tatiana La Belle Jul 2015 #6
"All you have to defend yourself is one pan and Mexican Food Farts." Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #2
Meh, it's all based on the fact that she misses the point. Coventina Jul 2015 #3
My favorite shirt Glassunion Jul 2015 #24
Way cool!! Coventina Jul 2015 #25
I think it's cool that you can sit on the toilet, wash your dish, and watch tv at the same time NightWatcher Jul 2015 #4
I've stayed with friends who peed and washed dishes in the shower pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #5
I think like most things "moderation" is the key. hamsterjill Jul 2015 #7
Indeed. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2015 #8
I don't think it is a very reasonable option for families with kids alphafemale Jul 2015 #10
Yikes. My people are just too big for a tiny house. cyberswede Jul 2015 #20
Japanese sleeping pods: lindysalsagal Jul 2015 #9
The two things that I always notice about those houses are: cemaphonic Jul 2015 #11
There was an article in SFgate where the couple bought mackerel Jul 2015 #14
Those kids are still pretty small. cyberswede Jul 2015 #19
Yes the article says they've lived there fours years and have finally mackerel Jul 2015 #22
I wish I could afford a tiny house. I've been seriously trying to figure mackerel Jul 2015 #12
Tiny House Owner/Commenter: "We have the Run Outside to Fart Rule" BeyondGeography Jul 2015 #13
I haven't lived in anything over 750 sq ft since 1992 pamela Jul 2015 #15
Jay Shafer is trying to get a tiny house community together in Sonoma County mackerel Jul 2015 #16
For some, the tiny house is the perfect answer to affordable housing and/or Marie Marie Jul 2015 #17
That actually will probably work well in the future mackerel Jul 2015 #23
I agree. I like the idea for some who are serious about it and want a smaller footprint... Phentex Jul 2015 #27
"I bet your whole Goddamn property is whimsical." Said the admirer of Holden Caulfield. ;-) WinkyDink Jul 2015 #18
Having lived in a tiny place, bedroom is small but my living room was huge. uppityperson Jul 2015 #21
Ack ... Not this one again .. Trajan Jul 2015 #26
A community of small, inexpensive, moveable-type dwellings... LeftinOH Jul 2015 #28
 

Tatiana La Belle

(152 posts)
6. That's really true
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 10:00 PM
Jul 2015

I'm downsizing--again--and it's amazing how much stuff I haven't used in 5 years. That's my rule: if I haven't used it in 5 years, I'm probably not going to.

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
3. Meh, it's all based on the fact that she misses the point.
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 08:26 PM
Jul 2015

The point being, most of the crap you "own" you don't need.
And, heating and cooling all that "space" she claims is needed to get away from farts is literally killing the planet.

Live simply, so that other may simply live.....

on edit: not having crap means less mess. That's why tiny homes tend to be tidy. If you have a mess, you have too much stuff.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
5. I've stayed with friends who peed and washed dishes in the shower
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 08:50 PM
Jul 2015

That was in a tiny hovel in Cholon, the Chinese ethnic district of Saigon. They had nothing, but they would happily share the last of their food with a guest.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
7. I think like most things "moderation" is the key.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 03:56 PM
Jul 2015

I love the creativity that goes into some of these tiny houses, but I have yet to see one with even one of the compact washer/dryers. Do these people go to a laundry mat to wash their clothes? I mean, that's certainly possible and not the end of the world, but it's not convenient either.

I think that like most things, the trend to smaller living is a wonderful thing. Better for everyone all the way around. But not when it's taken to the extreme. I'm anxious to see what this trend will look like in a couple of years, and hoping to see more reasonable (but still small) square footage.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,023 posts)
8. Indeed.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 06:02 PM
Jul 2015

I saw one episode of Tiny House Nation where a family of four moved into a tiny house.

They had two teenage kids - one boy and one girl. To give them some privacy they had one of the sleeping lofts split into two.

I guess there was a method to the madness. The kids were less likely to stick around as adults.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
10. I don't think it is a very reasonable option for families with kids
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 08:13 PM
Jul 2015

If it was an economic decision to prevent homelessness, yes.

But I don't think it is fair to impose that kind of lifestyle on a child.

I live simply. But I live by myself at this point in my life.

This kind of life would be best for a single or a very easy going couple you were both very committed to this.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
20. Yikes. My people are just too big for a tiny house.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 10:19 AM
Jul 2015

My 14 yo son is 6'3" #250, and my 12 yo daughter is pushing 5'6" - there's no way they'd be able to hang out in a tiny space. Hubby and I are 6"1' and 6' - we all need long beds.

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
11. The two things that I always notice about those houses are:
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:04 PM
Jul 2015

1) They often seem to be installed on a friend or relative's property, so a big part of the cost of renting or owning a home is out of the equation.

2) They are really expensive per sqft. You could get a fairly decent prefab of at least double the size in most cases for the same price.

All in all, the whole phenomenon seems like well-off people pretending to live simply.

mackerel

(4,412 posts)
22. Yes the article says they've lived there fours years and have finally
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:31 PM
Jul 2015

saved enough to build a 1400 sq.ft home that will be ready in about 2 years and by then the kids will have outgrown the tiny house. They will keep the tiny house as a guest house and they built a nice deck for it. They're main reason for even looking into a tiny house was they had lost their home in the last crash and never wanted to be that dependent again on a mortgage, banks or realtors. Everything they have they've paid for outright.

I'm really interested in this because I'd like to own my home again. I did find out that most cities are not tiny house friendly. You usually have to look for small townships or very low population where property taxes are not the main concern. Sometimes you have to build out in the county so you'll have to have a septic tank or a composting toilet.

mackerel

(4,412 posts)
12. I wish I could afford a tiny house. I've been seriously trying to figure
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:22 PM
Jul 2015

out how to budget it in the next two years.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
13. Tiny House Owner/Commenter: "We have the Run Outside to Fart Rule"
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:42 PM
Jul 2015

Rec'd for, um, refreshing honesty throughout.

pamela

(3,469 posts)
15. I haven't lived in anything over 750 sq ft since 1992
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 11:48 PM
Jul 2015

I lived on a boat for five years (around 250 sq ft,) a small, one bedroom condo (<750 sq ft) and now a motorhome that probably has about 300 sq ft of living space or less. I like small spaces. I still have too much stuff but probably less than most people. When I'm in a real house, all the rooms and closets packed with stuff makes me feel kind of ill.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
17. For some, the tiny house is the perfect answer to affordable housing and/or
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 11:51 PM
Jul 2015

living simply. For those that are moving from large houses and jumping on this latest fad, well - I predict they will be out of them in a couple of years.

mackerel

(4,412 posts)
23. That actually will probably work well in the future
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:33 PM
Jul 2015

for those who are more serious about tiny house living. Those that try but don't take to it will want to sell but I highly doubt there will be much mark up.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
27. I agree. I like the idea for some who are serious about it and want a smaller footprint...
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:09 AM
Jul 2015

and I enjoy watching shows about tiny houses. But I am annoyed by the people who claim they want to do this and then immediately whine about not having a full size tub AND a full size stove AND granite counter tops, no loft space, etc. They have missed the concept completely.

I want to downsize at some point but I have admitted it won't be to a tiny house. More like a one bedroom, small kitchen and bath and a nice porch.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
21. Having lived in a tiny place, bedroom is small but my living room was huge.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 05:43 PM
Jul 2015

I posted down my clothing and if I got something, would have to get rid of something. It made me very aware of what I had, was offered, desired.

LeftinOH

(5,354 posts)
28. A community of small, inexpensive, moveable-type dwellings...
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:37 AM
Jul 2015

That already exists, except it's not considered hip & trendy:

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