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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsI just served on a jury
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And I don't have a star. Did I misunderstand the new rules on jury eligibility?
I found it less satisfying than the old way. What fun is it to tell someone they're wrong if I can't explain why they're wrong?
Worse yet, I had to actually enforce a rule. I mean, I kind of agree with the rule and I understand why the rule exists and why the post violated the rule but there's no room for nuance. It would have been a good post for introspection and discussion but instead we have to just enforce the rule or don't. The idea will get hidden and nobody will get upset but nothing ever changes without someone getting upset. Status Quo marches on.
rug
(82,333 posts)OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)right after I posted this I looked up and thought, hmm I wonder if they just let me use that one...
demmiblue
(36,896 posts)hid by DUers, post reinstated by admins.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)That rocks!
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)I do like that feature. Sometimes us jurists mess up.
Renew Deal
(81,873 posts)I'm curious to see it
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)I think there's some bugs...
Skinner
(63,645 posts)...please send an appeal and say so. We will grant the appeal.
(We have fixed this so posts that were put up before the switch cannot be sent to juries.)
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)But will send the appeal so elad can see what happened.
We're good and thanks for the offer.
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)From my profile:
1113 total posts: +11
200 or more days of membership: +20
20 or more posts in the last 90 days: +20
Not a Star member: +0
0 posts hidden in 90 days: -0
TOTAL: 51
mnhtnbb
(31,405 posts)Not doing it any more.
Kali
(55,022 posts)also beware of meta
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)*Skinner's in here. Be real still and maybe he won't notice I got to do jury.*
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,628 posts)Make7
(8,543 posts)ETA: Wording from a post by Skinner:
[div class="excerpt" style="margin-right:3px; border:1px solid #bfbfbf; border-radius:0.4615em; box-shadow:-1px -1px 3px #bfbfbf inset;"]The privilege to serve on a Jury is now only offered to members who have been registered for at least one year, have more than 1,000 posts, and have an active Star membership.
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In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)
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Rhiannon12866
(206,072 posts)OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)and here I thought Skinner just liked me best.
And I reckon everyone is now free to move about the post. Make some noise, Loungies!
the new deal IS easier though. No more having to think up a good juror comment that will get re-posted for it's brilliance and wit.
Rhiannon12866
(206,072 posts)You may have been the reason for that decision!
And I was just on my first new jury, as well, and it was tough to decide without seeing the OP. And I hoped to learn a little more after seeing the results - but we don't get those anymore.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)That's certainly how I will remember it. I am the reason!
yeah I think that no notification is the hardest part to get used to. But it looks like we'll get opportunity to get used to it! Thanks to me! lol
Rhiannon12866
(206,072 posts)In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Rhiannon12866
(206,072 posts)I was on my first jury only moments after agreeing to the new ToS and I'm not the only one...
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)yeah, my jury was right after seeing the new ToS notice too.
Rhiannon12866
(206,072 posts)It was rather unsatisfying not to be able to see the results, was hoping to see if I made the right call...
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Rhiannon12866
(206,072 posts)The alerted post referred to the OP, but since I couldn't see it, I wasn't confident in giving my opinion. And since we no longer get results, I have no idea what happened, was hoping to learn more, but that was it. It didn't matter who the poster was, but I would have liked some context...
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Rhiannon12866
(206,072 posts)I was hoping to learn more from the results, but now I have no idea what even happened to the post...
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Now I'll have to copy part of the OP to (perhaps) find the results after completing my service.
Rhiannon12866
(206,072 posts)Referred to an OP, but I couldn't see the OP, just the alerted post, which is why it was confusing. And since we don't get results now, I have no idea what happened.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)On my 2nd jury just now I figured it out but it was a lot of work. The post wasn't hidden.
Rhiannon12866
(206,072 posts)I was just on a second jury and got the smart idea to search for the alerted post, but DU wouldn't let me...
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Rhiannon12866
(206,072 posts)PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)Rhiannon12866
(206,072 posts)I have a feeling that AtA is going to be pretty busy for awhile - and required reading.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)And I voted to "leave" or "no violation" or whatever it is now. Because too much context was removed. It was supposed to be a SOP violation of posting in the wrong forum or group. Well, it's rather important to know which group. Because the alerted post would have been just fine in The Lounge, and maybe in GD. It could even have been okay in some of the groups.
But, without that important bit of context, I honestly can't make a decision to hide. They need to re-think that aspect, too.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)a pretty big "Whoops!"
the one I was on would have been wrong anywhere but yeah, there are times when the group absolutely matters.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)was of someone making a random quote to me and then asking my opinion on it, without letting me actually 'say' anything
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Fla Dem
(23,761 posts)Jury Duty glitch.
Not a big deal, but right after I signed the TOS agreement, I was called for Jury Duty. (I declined.)
I gots no donor star.
1. You should have accepted.
We decided against requiring a donor star.
trueblue2007
(17,240 posts)do we not get notification of the findings anymore? What happened to the "bad note" ???
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)we don't get them. I feel your pain - how do I know if I won if I don't get the scores?
GOLGO 13
(1,681 posts)I like giving my opinion to my verdict. It feels cold & impersonal now. Not fun. Not going to do it anymore. I'll keep dismissing from my duty till then.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)maybe one time in all my juries. And that may have been simply because I didn't have time.(I think I was summoned by my boss right when I was finishing up a jury and had to go). I felt it was important to explain why I voted as I did on each jury.
I think I was on the winning side more often than not but it wasn't a run-away. Very often other juror comments helped me understand the other position better. (face it, alerters are notorious for crappy explanations lol). So now I guess alerters have it a little easier as they have to look at the limited possible reasons for alerting and pick one. No chance to write a crappy (or no) reason for alerting but it still takes away our ability for writing a reason to agree or disagree.
As with most things, there's both good and bad in that. I think I'll stay on it for a while and see how it shakes out. But I can certainly see why one would not feel like doing it.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)maybe it's a good thing it's all completely anonymous and other jurors can't see who or how somebody commented and voted and comments can't be copied into a post. I just blew one BIG TIME and it would have been pretty embarrassing. lol. I only know because I think I found the thread and since I could see the replies to the (now thankfully removed) original post (the OP is all I got to see on the jury) I see where I made a huge mistake in what I was thinking. (If I had taken the time to really ponder it I would have eventually figured it out I think. But I feel stupid for not figuring it out sooner. Like, while I was serving on the juror).
But no harm no foul. Rest of the jury got it right and the post is gone. Nobody even knows I was an idiot.
hey...waaaaaait........dammit.